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Nestea vs Naniwa Korean Twitterstorm - Page 16

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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:24:06
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#301
On December 13 2011 22:20 Zavior wrote:
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On December 13 2011 22:20 Femari wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:19 0ne wrote:
Isn't coca out of code S for throwing meaningless game in an online tournament?

byun is also sitting out of gsl for it

it wasnt a meaningless game, it was for coda a/s seed


There was no seed for that tournament

(Even if there had been the incident happened in the very first round of a weekly tournament. To win a Code A seed you had to place top 4 in a weekly event to get entered into the monthly finals, and only the winner (or highest placing non gsl player) of that would actually get the seed)
TraderSC
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden7 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#302
On December 13 2011 22:22 jojo311 wrote:
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On December 13 2011 22:21 TraderSC wrote:
translate the latest nestea tweet please:<



he said

"I was insanely frustrated by my bad performance today(Nestea himself) and the opponent did a more insane job"


ty, doesn't seem nestea is too mad about it himself:s
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#303
On December 13 2011 22:22 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:21 Femari wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:20 Zavior wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:20 Femari wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:19 0ne wrote:
Isn't coca out of code S for throwing meaningless game in an online tournament?

byun is also sitting out of gsl for it

it wasnt a meaningless game, it was for coda a/s seed

wrong. there was no deal for that tournament, nothing was on the line.

Eh, there is a code A seed and a 150$ pricepool.

Mr. Chae posted himself saying there was nothing on the line as they hadn't worked out a new deal.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#304
meh while nani should have tried to play it out, i also blame the format for creating pointless games.. So either way i dont really care .. Seems to me there is alot of over-reactions once again.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:24:51
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#305
On December 13 2011 22:20 seejay2 wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:40 ComusLoM wrote:
This is the first time I have actually felt like the Korean community don't deserve any respect at all.

If it was a Korean losing three times to cheese there would be the same comments but more along the lines of:

LOLOLOL STUPID FOREIGNERS CAN'T BEAT US IN REAL GAMES

They talk about professionalism while showing none themselves on this issue.

Woah woah woah...You are just pulling these words out of your ass. Why would you ever think that the koreans will act like that. Also who do you think would say that? The korean fans? The players? I am pretty sure that the koreans respect a lot of the foreigners ability to keep up with the top koreans. I doubt that anything like that would have been said if a foreigner did that to a korean. Think a little harder before you make those dumb accusations.

What? What makes me think the Koreans will act like that? Maybe the OP makes me think that given their terrible reaction to this.

Also I just realised I wrote something about Naniwa in a hype blog that completely explains why this should have been the expected outcome:

On May 13 2011 09:06 ComusLoM wrote:
Naniwa is Lewis Nixon
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“Oh, I have every confidence in my scrounging abilities, and I have a case of Vat '69 hidden in your footlocker. “
“ ...to be honest I really want to become the first bonjwa after some consideration”


Naniwa is known to have had his problems just like Nixon’s drinking, his team history was almost as long as his BoX win streak and in his early career he was known for bad manner, abuse colossus builds and being kicked out of ESL Pro Series Germany, akin to Lew’s demotion. But to be honest, who cares? Naniwa is a beast, perhaps he is THE beast. What seems to be a common trend for Swedish players that win MLG titles is that they receive a huge boost to their confidence and their tournament results reflect this. In a few days Naniwa will play in the finals of arguably the most prestigious Starcraft 2 tournament of all time, the TSL3. And whether he wins or loses he has already made history. I for one believe he will continue the tradition of Protoss winning the TSL and no one will bat an eyelid if he wins, he is certainly not the underdog.

However he was the underdog when he travelled with ease through the MLG Open bracket, not losing a single game until the final where he managed to lose a whole 2 to two time silver medallist and 2-4 MLG loser Kiwikaki. Naniwa may not have won the road to Korea tournament losing his first boX series in a long time (he won 35 in a row to be exact) to Sase in the final, but there is no doubt that he will be trying at some point in the future. At the moment Naniwa is the only MLG champion not to have competed in the GSL Code S tournament, an interesting distinction.

Naniwa has broken many records, but if you want more hype just check out Plexa's Hype Thread


Also this was the best possible outcome for GOM. An hour long epic slugfest would not have generated nearly this type of response and publicity for this tournament.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
MarinePrince
Profile Joined October 2011
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:25:32
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#306
Someone translate this please: "정신나간경기력에 화가나서 정신차리고보니 상대가 더 정신나간짓을 해주네"

nvm - see above!
"Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character." - Albert Einstein
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:25:09
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#307
On December 13 2011 22:22 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:21 Femari wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:20 Zavior wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:20 Femari wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:19 0ne wrote:
Isn't coca out of code S for throwing meaningless game in an online tournament?

byun is also sitting out of gsl for it

it wasnt a meaningless game, it was for coda a/s seed

wrong. there was no deal for that tournament, nothing was on the line.

Eh, there is a code A seed and a 150$ pricepool.

there was a not code A seed. That has been explained a million times
Pandinus
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden29 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#308
A lot of envy here. QQ more plz.

Remove all humanity from the players and make them robots?
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:24:50
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#309
On December 13 2011 22:22 Nero. wrote:
i love how people on the one seide always say something like "ESPORT needs to grow", "We need Starcraft on Tv" etc. but then support someone like Naniwa who acts in such an embarassing and childish way

He probe rushed.
PROBE RUSHED.
He didn't matchfix, he didn't hack, he didn't kill somebody, HE A-MOVED his workers!
What the heck.

This is really, really getting out of hand.
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#310
On December 13 2011 22:23 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:22 Seronei wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:21 Femari wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:20 Zavior wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:20 Femari wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:19 0ne wrote:
Isn't coca out of code S for throwing meaningless game in an online tournament?

byun is also sitting out of gsl for it

it wasnt a meaningless game, it was for coda a/s seed

wrong. there was no deal for that tournament, nothing was on the line.

Eh, there is a code A seed and a 150$ pricepool.

Mr. Chae posted himself saying there was nothing on the line as they hadn't worked out a new deal.

It wasn't? I seem to remember it being after the announcement of the Code A spot. But ok then. Still 150$.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
December 13 2011 13:25 GMT
#311
On December 13 2011 22:23 TraderSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:22 jojo311 wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:21 TraderSC wrote:
translate the latest nestea tweet please:<



he said

"I was insanely frustrated by my bad performance today(Nestea himself) and the opponent did a more insane job"


ty, doesn't seem nestea is too mad about it himself:s

No he's definitely mad in Korean.
babyToSS
Profile Joined December 2009
233 Posts
December 13 2011 13:25 GMT
#312
On December 13 2011 22:18 GG2EZ wrote:
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On December 13 2011 22:16 babyToSS wrote:
Saw the whole thing live. What Naniwa did was incredibly immature and unaccetible. I hope he gets some sort of penalty for that. Disrespectful to SC2 fans, Nestea and Gom. I feel sorry for people who paid to watch the tournament and were anticipating the match-up. Yea he was having a bad day but that is no excuse, needs to take a lesson from LiquidHero who stuck it out and gave his best instead of quitting.

Also people need to stop comparing him to Idra. Idra is BM towards cheesy/all in opponents and out-spoken but he never really insults his fans and tourney organizers intentionally like that. In fact if you have ever met him at a live event he one of the more awesome pros always interacting with fans in between games. Korean reaction is totally justified. Would have been better if they had given Stephano a second shot in Group B.

For those in doubt, Naniwa pretty much a moved his probes in Nestea's main and took his hands off the keyboard.


Oh my god you have sand in your vagina?


Just really disappointed cause I was one of the many people stupid enough to stay up really late to watch the match.
babyToSS here! Can u go easy on me plzzz?
Matsumoto
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany493 Posts
December 13 2011 13:25 GMT
#313
On December 13 2011 22:24 Pandinus wrote:
A lot of envy here. QQ more plz.

Remove all humanity from the players and make them robots?

so the only way to show your personality is to act like a little kid?
Fk it ,BAYLIFE? BAYLIFE
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:26:19
December 13 2011 13:25 GMT
#314
--- Nuked ---
chokke
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway228 Posts
December 13 2011 13:26 GMT
#315
On December 13 2011 22:21 ChowChillaCharlie wrote:
Can someone explain this Zlatan thing to me? I don't follow the soccer scene.

Wasn't it Zlatan that filmed and got whatever-the-shot-within-16-metre-is-called in a match.

On December 13 2011 22:20 iamthedave wrote:
I think - for some reason - a lot of people are failing to note something about the Korean mentality.

What is the one line THEY ALL SAY in interviews? 'I hope to give good games'.

I don't consider a games with 5 rax of one base, proxy-stuff, rushed 2-port-banshee and whatever to be good, yet the same guys are gfiving these games.
It's just formal bullshit just as whenever a player leaves the team it's the same boring "didn't fit our style, great man, good luck in future" and how every new team is "an experience to broaden my skill as a player and an oppertunity to become better".
bana
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany22 Posts
December 13 2011 13:26 GMT
#316
On December 13 2011 22:24 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:22 Nero. wrote:
i love how people on the one seide always say something like "ESPORT needs to grow", "We need Starcraft on Tv" etc. but then support someone like Naniwa who acts in such an embarassing and childish way

He probe rushed.
PROBE RUSHED.
He didn't matchfix, he didn't hack, he didn't kill somebody, HE A-MOVED his workers!
What the heck.

This is really, really getting out of hand.


Sry, throwing a game like that is match fixing.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
December 13 2011 13:26 GMT
#317
On December 13 2011 22:25 Sated wrote:
The match meant nothing to either of the players - much like someone forfeiting a 7-8th place game at MLG or something of that ilk.

Something IdrA has done at pretty much every MLG but has never received criticism for.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Letall
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden384 Posts
December 13 2011 13:26 GMT
#318
On December 13 2011 22:20 synaptik wrote:
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On December 13 2011 22:15 Letall wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:12 synaptik wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:52 LittLeD wrote:
The fact that so many Swedes defend this behaviour is embarrassing to say the least. Naniwa is the worst kind of representative a country could ever have.


some of these swedish fans would still defending if he murdered nestea on a livestream


We are dedicated fans, much like canadians making exuses for Huk when he loses. That aside I think nani shoulsve at least proxy 2gated.


must be great to cheer on someone who doesnt give a shi- about his fans. i envy you.


Yea it is, I cheer for him because he plays very well, not because he's a nice guy.


Dont tase me bro
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:27:04
December 13 2011 13:26 GMT
#319
On December 13 2011 22:22 Nero. wrote:
i love how people on the one seide always say something like "ESPORT needs to grow", "We need Starcraft on Tv" etc. but then support someone like Naniwa who acts in such an embarassing and childish way



quite the opposite, if you put stuff like this on t.v it WILL DRAW more viewers, who watches t.v for non controversial t.v?
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:29:44
December 13 2011 13:27 GMT
#320
On December 13 2011 22:19 0ne wrote:
Isn't Coca out of code S for throwing a meaningless game in an online tournament?


Coca purposefully lost an already won game becuase Byun point blank asked him to ( there were screencaps of the chatlog ) so they'd go to a game three . Also coca vs byun was not pointless, if Byun could get post coca and win the tournament he had a shot at a code A spo t( through the monthly playoffs or however they set that up I forget the format ) which coca being code s would not need.

I'm not saying what Nani did is right by any means just clarifying the differences in situations.
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