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*Insert introductionary text here*
Good, now that's out of the way, I want talk/ask questions about Skyrim.
Pros
+ Show Spoiler +-All skills contribute to leveling up
-Dual casting/wielding
-Perks
-High(er) level cap (80ish am I right?)
-Nice aesthetics
-More voice actors
-No more class system
-Vastly improved enchanting
-Item creation (smithing, alchemy)
And alot more
Cons
+ Show Spoiler +-Only one ring slot
-Forsworn (I have a personal grudge with them for some reason)
-Short guild/faction storylines
-Only Common+ soulgems can be used to recharge(?)
-Dark Brotherhood=Pussies compared to Oblivion
A few more, but I can't think of them ATM
That plus a few extra things is my general opinion of Skyrim, which basicly means I think it's a beasty(great) game. Just all the improvement from Oblivion, now you can get the satisfaction of Lightning Storm an enemy and see him reduced to shiny dust(yes, I know this was in fallout aswell), or the slit-throat animation when you sneak. I also think it's funny how cocky the enemy mages in this game are, like seriously, Novice mages going "I am master of the arcane!" always make me laugh, and then fireball then into the distance.
I also love the necromancer spells, that was something I searched all over Oblivion for, yeah sure, you could use the staff of worms. But who wants to carry an ugly-ass staff that ressurects someone for five seconds(or whatever it was). And the ritual spell quests, that is so awesome I can't even explain it.
Right now I'm a level 40 Breton, noteworthy skills are; Alteration 100, Enchanting 100, Destruction 100 and Illusion 60(ish). But now that I have most the skills I wanted to have maxed, I really have no idea what to do. Should I re-specialize myself in sneaky stuff? Complete the main quest? Own guards with mana-free Mass Paralysis?
That's why I turn to you, if you got any idea on what to do now please post, also you can discuss your views about Skyrim if you want to.
And yes, I can moderate my own blog, at least ban ppl. So please keep it Skyrim focused will you? 
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its not worth 60 bucks to me since i just do the major story lines and sometimes cool things that pop up but thats basically it. the main story wasnt as cool as morrowind but i imagine thats desensitized because of how poor the games were at the time morrowind was out compared to now as well as why im bored after beating skyrim when i could play a game like sc2 or wow for much longer (hate wow) wish skyrim was online /end
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Stop playing skyrim and switch on morrowind its alot better skyrim is so dank and empty
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just do what I did, and try to max ALL your skills you'll find there is much more to do in Skyrim then meets the eye, spend some time running in the wilds for no reason, you're bound to find something
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Complete the main quest if you havent done so already?
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On December 06 2011 02:08 Bd.Snake wrote:
Stop playing skyrim and switch on morrowind its alot better skyrim is so dank and empty
Yea so empty, only like 400 characters and basically everyone is involved in a quest, I did not play morrowind but I can imagine that in morrowind there were thousands of characters right?
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i wonder how much money the developers kept in there pockets from giving skyrim such bad textures worse then oblivion a game released 5 years before i think lol im pretty sure i got to play through like 3 quests that actually had good story the rest were go here kill this or that go back theres just too little depth to the game the characters are just so dull
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You can try to find a mod that will let you continue to improve your skills past 100 if you're missing the growth aspect of your character.
Or like Xiron said, complete the main quest and be done with it.
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On December 06 2011 02:10 Xiron wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 02:08 Bd.Snake wrote:
Stop playing skyrim and switch on morrowind its alot better skyrim is so dank and empty Yea so empty, only like 400 characters and basically everyone is involved in a quest, I did not play morrowind but I can imagine that in morrowind there were thousands of characters right?
lol 400 characters i guess the characters are much much worse then i first thought quantity doesnt beat quality
if you could name one good character in skyrim i could name 20 more in morrowind
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Yea, I should play the main story I guess. And also, I used to play Morrowind. When I was like... 10 ? Hahaha
But seriously, Morrowind, as I remember it at least, was so goddamn hard/frustrating. I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply anymore as it is a long time since I played it...
About the bad textures, I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm just happy my laptop can run the game at all :D
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On December 06 2011 02:18 achristes wrote:
Yea, I should play the main story I guess. And also, I used to play Morrowind. When I was like... 10 ? Hahaha
But seriously, Morrowind, as I remember it at least, was so goddamn hard/frustrating. I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply anymore as it is a long time since I played it...
About the bad textures, I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm just happy my laptop can run the game at all :D
When you go up to bleak falls barrow i think or whatever and there are bandits in a lil destroyed house thing just walk in there and youll see what i mean by bad textures
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On December 06 2011 02:25 Bd.Snake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 02:18 achristes wrote:
Yea, I should play the main story I guess. And also, I used to play Morrowind. When I was like... 10 ? Hahaha
But seriously, Morrowind, as I remember it at least, was so goddamn hard/frustrating. I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply anymore as it is a long time since I played it...
About the bad textures, I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm just happy my laptop can run the game at all :D When you go up to bleak falls barrow i think or whatever and there are bandits in a lil destroyed house thing just walk in there and youll see what i mean by bad textures
Obvious troll is obvious. :x
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-Only one ring slot
-Forsworn (I have a personal grudge with them for some reason)
^ didnt have a problem with either of these really.
my cons :
- game breaking bugs
- Easy, obvious exploits
- Awful enemy/combat AI (get stuck behind rocks, predictable actions)
- Dragons are weaker than bears (wtf?)
But yea it's cool how much of a badass you eventually become, and the freedom in perks, class, etc.
but i agree with Bd.snake about the textures. Lots of it was directly ported from fallout. There is very little detail on objects, and lots of things have obvious geometrics instead of smooth surfaces.
i mean i don't care at all about graphics, and it's nice that they made the game be completely devoid of loading screens, but even i noticed that they went pretty cheap on the graphics.
btw there's already tons of mods to improve the visuals of the game, there's a post about it here on TL somewhere. (PC only, obviously)
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Hyrule19083 Posts
can't ban staff kekeke so let's talk about Minesweeper, the best game ever.....
Anyway the part I love most about Skyrim (and Bethesda games in general) is that once I've completed the game, I can go back and play as a different class/style, pick different sides, and in the end come out with a completely different experience....and then I can do it a third time. IMO just pick a different style (say 2-handed) and start the game over 
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its tough to keep playing the game and the storylines were SOOOO short they REALLY needed to extend the side quests length and depth
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It depends on how you enjoy the game.
From what I understand, you focused all your attention to certain specific skills as you progressed which is great to gain power early on but it does lag you up in the end when those are maxed.
Personally, I played 2 characters so far. The first one was similar to yours. It was an Orc Male with 100 smithing, 100 one handed, 100 block, 100 heavy armor. It made things straightforward and easy to kill stuf early on. The downside is that you outgrow stuff early on and feel too easy but as you progress, the reverse effect happens if you wish to keep leveling. I finished the main quest with this character and I was done with it.
My second character was a mix. I built it on a high elf and ran to the lover stone (+15% all skill gains) straight from the beginning. I mixed my armor using light armor for the body with heavy gear for the head and shield. I would often witch between a 2h and a 1h. Between each fight, I used double restoration spell (not dual casted) to level it up faster (it gave +30% over the same time).
This made it harder in the beginning because my skill ups were all over the place. however, at level 42, most of my skills are at a comfortable level and nothing lags behind too far (except archery for some reason). I also didn't even get the dragonstone yet and simply explored everywhere. I found it more fun doing so than focused attention.
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the problem with the graphics is that Skyrim was made to function on the current consoles so a vast improvement over oblivion was not possible anyway. I am happy that they improved on some subtle things like characterdesign and the spelldesign but I didnt expect it to be on Crisis level graphic wise.
My main problem with the game is that compared to Morrowind the questlines are ridiculously short and uninspired.
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The detail on the textures was probably due to the fact this game is a port from the console version to be used on the PC. I think the Thieves Guild was probably the longest quest chain in the game and one of the more exciting ones. They are releasing a big patch for the PC version to fix a ton of bugs and add in a few other things, which should help the game out. Skyrim is still a big improvement in my eyes, some of the good from Oblivion and some of the good from Morrowind spliced together, I cannot wait until the expansion packs come out.
As for some people having Dragons being killed by bears and giants, you need to level up more. The Dragons scale much faster than the other enemies in the game and will kill giants and mammoths with ease.
Either way, I am about level 50 and haven't done the main quest yet, just going around doing side quests in every town other than that, I am not sure what else you could do.
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After completing the game with two chars i can safely say that modded oblivion is actually much better than skyrim
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On December 06 2011 03:07 Boonbag wrote:
After completing the game with two chars i can safely say that modded oblivion is actually much better than skyrim
How about modded Skyrim ? (after a couple of years)
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On December 06 2011 03:15 achristes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 03:07 Boonbag wrote:
After completing the game with two chars i can safely say that modded oblivion is actually much better than skyrim How about modded Skyrim ? (after a couple of years)
i have to refrain myself from thinking about it everyday because it makes the wait unbereable
edit : problem is that even vanilla skyrim is too small i explored everything there is so fast =(
well vanilla oblivion was a bugfest and unplayable to some degree so...
edit 2 : thing is when iwas teenager i found every single witch shrine in daggerfall by myself so i have quite high standards with TES series =-
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If you haven't already, getting your smithing and alchemy to level 100 will make your enchanting even more awesome than it already is.
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On December 06 2011 02:37 Xiron wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 02:25 Bd.Snake wrote:On December 06 2011 02:18 achristes wrote:
Yea, I should play the main story I guess. And also, I used to play Morrowind. When I was like... 10 ? Hahaha
But seriously, Morrowind, as I remember it at least, was so goddamn hard/frustrating. I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply anymore as it is a long time since I played it...
About the bad textures, I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm just happy my laptop can run the game at all :D When you go up to bleak falls barrow i think or whatever and there are bandits in a lil destroyed house thing just walk in there and youll see what i mean by bad textures Obvious troll is obvious. :x
Can you please think before talking none of your posts make any sense lol thx ;D
im not insulting skyrim just saying how it is
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On December 06 2011 03:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:
If you haven't already, getting your smithing and alchemy to level 100 will make your enchanting even more awesome than it already is.
Yeah, I think I saw something about making a fortify enchanting potion, then enchant a ring (or whatever) with a fortify alchemy, create new stronger enchantment potion and so on. Alchemy just take so damn long to level TT
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Explore, collect artifacts, max out all your skills, roll a new character, personal challenges, gather shouts, decorate your houses with epic loots, pick up a secondary attack method, ect, ect...
Personally I get the most enjoyment out of exploring dungeons and small towns and discovering side quests and storylines there.
The faction quest lines were mostly disappointing, especially Dark Brotherhood (When did they stop being assassins and become common murderers?), but here's to hoping they acknowledge that in their post mortem and some up with some amazing faction quests in an expansion.
Morrowind had an immense exploration and discovery aspect to it that the more recent Elder Scrolls games lack, and I blame it on the instant travel dumbing down and gouging the downtime between quest objectives. For my next playthrough I'm going to challenge myself to never use map walking unless absolutely necessary. Personal challenges like that always kept me interested in the Elder Scrolls games long after I've discovered most of what there is to discover, maybe try out some things for yourself?
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Uninstall it, that's what I did. Well, okay, I made two characters without min-maxing and it turns out they were both super overpowered, so I stopped playing.
Not much merrit in a game that is only difficult if you avoid 90% of the skills and talents. I like to think of it as an "exploration simulator".
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On December 06 2011 03:15 achristes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 03:07 Boonbag wrote:
After completing the game with two chars i can safely say that modded oblivion is actually much better than skyrim How about modded Skyrim ? (after a couple of years)
Bethesda announced full software release for modding in January 2012. The tools will be the same they had to create the game and will include all files. Also, they announced Steam Engine will fully be able to receive mods made from the tool and will allow steam players to fully mod their game through Valve content (free) created by other players.
This should be interesting
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I didn't see anyone answer your question but one of your cons referring to recharging weapons: when you go to recharge and you get that short list of 3 gems to use, scroll down it with WASD (S down, W up, obviously). You aren't limited to those 3 gems, those are just 3 of a list that you can scroll down...
As far as what to do?
- Start a new character and play it completely differently in combat (magic vs. melee, 1H vs. 2H, etc)
- Play on a different/higher difficulty if possible
- Roleplay such that you go in with a set way to play or specific skill trees to focus in and limit yourself to those, for the challenge and the immersion
- **Only level the crafting skills naturally, meaning as you progress and acquire the materials during gameplay, rather than buying them all up and leveling "en masse"
- Behave differently on purpose, i.e. if you were a more noble/lawful character, kill more people and get more bounties this time, or vice versa.
- Try to clear the map
- Use a different/unique "Stone" power (rather than the first three forever because you level faster)
- Buy the nicest house and make it really cool (full use of weapon racks, chests, shelves, and more... Like a giant trophy room. Personally this is one of my favorites)
Just some ideas. It is what you make it, which can be good and bad depending on your personality. Every time I burn out on a character for one reason or another I just start a new one and play differently / do different factions and eventually I'll be reinspired to play my older ones or approach problems differently.
Alternatively you could also look into gameplay mods. Some are very subtle touches, such as adding a few unique things to crafting skills, that don't have a massive effect on the overall gameplay but improve little things that make a universally more positive experience.
Edit: http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1601#content
For a jump start, if you're interested.
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u can use black star of azura quest to recharge i thought
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I couldn't agree more with the con you listed about the Dark Brotherhood -_- Oblivion DB was so gooooood.
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On December 06 2011 05:11 Sc2Requiem wrote:
The faction quest lines were mostly disappointing, especially Dark Brotherhood (When did they stop being assassins and become common murderers?), but here's to hoping they acknowledge that in their post mortem and some up with some amazing faction quests in an expansion.
they always were murderers the only real assassins are the Morag Tong
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I honestly hated the endgame for the thieves guild. I looked forward to pulling off a big heist but all I got was some religious garbage and batman costumes. That final bossfight was utter shit, too. I mean, I'm playing a stealth character and I'm forced to go toe to toe with an invisible dude with a sword that heals him? Not fun.
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Just wondering. Can you finish all the quests, and what to do after? ( assuming the hundreds of hours of gameplay)
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On December 06 2011 07:37 iSometric wrote:
Just wondering. Can you finish all the quests, and what to do after? ( assuming the hundreds of hours of gameplay)
There are Misc. Quests which are infinite in number and there are still dungeons to explore (some with random quests also). This is assuming you finish every Main, Faction, Daedric and Town quest.
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@Duka08
Omfg I'm so stupid, tried to scroll with my mousewheel but that didn't work, so I figured I could only recharge with common+ gems. TY
Starting a new character is...not me. I would much rather have one insanely overpowered guy instead of 3-5 middle-ish characters.
Yes, I could play in harder difficulty, especially now that Destruction spells are free :D (100%Fortify Destro)
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The one about the house is cool, but I always use my money on stuff, and unlike oblivion I don't know where the nicest house is. But I will definetively do that.
Side note: Nicest houses in oblivion==Skingrad and Anvil house
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I had an idea that might make for an interesting play through, but it is definitely very dependent on restricting yourself within the game world.
I always see a weapon and a bit of armor at the entrance to every "dungeon", you could just go around doing dungeons with these items and then selling them so you don't have a collection of the best gear or your favorite stuff. I haven't really given much thought to what else I would do on this play through, but it seems like an interesting idea to base a role play on.
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On December 10 2011 00:58 Kreggar wrote:
I had an idea that might make for an interesting play through, but it is definitely very dependent on restricting yourself within the game world.
I always see a weapon and a bit of armor at the entrance to every "dungeon", you could just go around doing dungeons with these items and then selling them so you don't have a collection of the best gear or your favorite stuff. I haven't really given much thought to what else I would do on this play through, but it seems like an interesting idea to base a role play on.
Are you suggesting to use the weapons found just outside a dungeon to clear it and then sell the items?
I'm really bad at restricting myself in RPG's, but I play for both the story and items, but if a quest has me going from Winterhold the Markath I will fast travel, as it would make very little difference if I paid for the carriage to take me there anyway.
I think I will be making a character with alot in smithing, conjuration, one-handed(?), destruction and enchanting. I would have loved to put alchemy in there aswell, but it takes so damn long to level TT
And when I max out smithing and enchanting I guess I will make armor, and enchant it with overpowered stuff ^^
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i think a fun add on would be the ability to become a bandit and join a group that raids and thing like that,
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@achristes
The best house is 'Proudspire Manor' in Solitude. You have to do the steward's quest and then a quest for the jarl herself before being able to purchase it. Total cost is about 36,000 septims but i only use the enchanting and alchemy labs, which are the only functional parts, so if you dont buy the patio, bedroom, etc. you could save precious coin. unless you've got septims flowing 'out the wazoo'(whatever that is) then you might as well buy the whole package.
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