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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
December 02 2011 18:18 GMT
#1
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South
Profile Joined November 2010
80 Posts
December 02 2011 18:24 GMT
#2
Maybe because it seems like you're taking yourself too seriously. This post, for example.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 02 2011 18:27 GMT
#3
Can I call you "Young B" and you can call me "Big B" any time we refer to eachother in the forums? I think it would be funny. You can modify the nickname you use for me if you so deem it appropriate.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Dispersion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (South)504 Posts
December 02 2011 18:27 GMT
#4
On December 03 2011 03:24 South wrote:
Maybe because it seems like you're taking yourself too seriously. This post, for example.


QFT, the only people I'd be careful about arguing with are IdrA and iNcoNtroL, because one could metaphorically tear my heart out through my eyes, and the other physically could.

This is a public Internet forum, true posters say whatever the fuck they want.
Don't worry. Taht's just Halo
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 18:35:07
December 02 2011 18:31 GMT
#5
Don't be afraid of:
Barrin
Plexa

Be very afraid of:
Mani
Naz


Got it!

No seriously I've had similar thoughts as you after what if you were on staff? questions. I would have to curtail the blunt posts I make. Obviously not everyone takes that stance or at least has their own definition of toned down but it's something that's always nagged me. If I were you, could I post the same way I did before? The answer is probably not.

On the other side of the quote in your post there is the idea that people are less likely to argue with a hammer. Yes and no. I can't deny some people would meekly excuse themselves if they found themselves on the opposite side of your argument but for the most part I'd like to believe that the only measure of respect given is the quality in the argument. A person is a lot less likely to make a redundant, half assed and venomous post towards someone on staff than they are another user.

Or maybe I'm completely wrong on that one- I'm sure more than one banling would disagree but I still feel like it's easier in general to argue without grounds against a regular user over a banling.

Oh yeah this was my conclusion. Slipped my mind cos I'm staring at skyrim and the NASL timer.

TL Staff weren't drawn out of a hat. In a long discussion thread I'll skip over posts arguing with each other with some frequency because I naturally assume it's grounded closer to personal attacks than meritorious debate. That's my own bias. I read what staff right because they weren't accidentally selected as part of staff. If they were idiots I would know about it already or they wouldn't be on staff. So all and all, it's less based on fear for me and more based on an assumption that if you didn't know what the hell you were talking about then you probably wouldn't be adamant about your viewpoint.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50218 Posts
December 02 2011 18:31 GMT
#6
So your hammer is not for novelty purposes?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
December 02 2011 18:32 GMT
#7
I once was on a party and smoked some weed with some friends and some friendly strangers. During our conversation one of the guys i didnt know mentioned that he is working as a cop. Of course most of us felt a bit uncomfortable after that, even if he said to us that he doesnt mind us smoking weed and that he thinks its stupid that he has to deal with such banalities at work. Anyway after his "confession" people started to avoid him what made me feel a bit sorry for him since he seemed like a cool guy. In a certain way your story reminds me of his.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 02 2011 18:33 GMT
#8
On December 03 2011 03:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
So your hammer is not for novelty purposes?


Trivia fact: When Barrin bans you he literally shows up at your house and hits you with a hammer. Things like this are why users like Ti-XX keep on trying to make accounts-- repetitive blows to the head.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Kindream
Profile Joined September 2011
Estonia66 Posts
December 02 2011 18:33 GMT
#9
So... the hammer's not purely for overcompensating?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 02 2011 18:35 GMT
#10
Oh yeah Florida represent.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
December 02 2011 18:35 GMT
#11
Haven't heard the Banling pun yet .. pretty funny. Yes, I've been living under a rock
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 02 2011 18:37 GMT
#12
So if I respond to this blog with a meme image you won't warn me?
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
December 02 2011 18:38 GMT
#13
Someone else will though :p
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50218 Posts
December 02 2011 18:39 GMT
#14
On December 03 2011 03:37 Crisium wrote:
So if I respond to this blog with a meme image you won't warn me?

Don't push it bro, he's still gotta enforce the general rules
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 02 2011 18:44 GMT
#15
It was a joke (hence, no image).

This is like many things in life, such as promotions above your once peers as well. If you watch the new season of Dexter (I'll try not to spoil specifically) a character gets promoted to Lieutenant of the cops and finds out it is harder to have just everyday lunch break talks with those who were once of equal rank. Authority/power does that, I guess.
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chingchong99
Profile Joined November 2011
Nauru64 Posts
December 02 2011 18:45 GMT
#16
tldr

User was temp banned for this post.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 02 2011 18:52 GMT
#17
I'm going to treat you like every other poster: 2/5 blog!!

O N E O F U S ! O N E O F U S ! O N E O F U S !
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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
December 02 2011 18:52 GMT
#18
This reminds me of the bandwagon thread where everyone was rallying behind Fakesteve(?) and ragging on Hazel(?). Afterwards this discussion broke out in the community about moderators/banlings and the respect people on an internet forum get just by virtue of their status.
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 02 2011 18:59 GMT
#19
None of us should wander alone, you least of all. Barrin? I know you suffer, I see it day by day. Are you sure you do not suffer needlessly? There are other ways, Barrin, other paths we might take.
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DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 19:01:52
December 02 2011 19:01 GMT
#20
you wrote "better than" incorrectly...
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
December 02 2011 19:03 GMT
#21
Don't worry Barrin, I wouldn't worry about arguing back with you.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
December 02 2011 19:11 GMT
#22
i don't really consider the icons when i post.. the ban hammer is more visible maybe but i don't believe that i'd change my words because of seeing it. i think the way they do things here is pretty fair in terms of judging bans. i've had my fair share of warnings and temps (1 or 2 i can't remember ?) but they were all understandable. i suppose for new users this blog would be quite helpful in dispelling the mystique of fancy icon shenanigans. maybe that's why day9 is so popular because he's just a humble marine forever and ever
get rich or die mining
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
December 02 2011 19:16 GMT
#23
I only say this to prove the point people have been making in this blog:

This is the first time I see you.

Why care about what a group of nerds have to say? We're fine just like that.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 19:21:22
December 02 2011 19:19 GMT
#24
I don't see why people would treat mods differently when arguing about something.
If there is one thing I like about TL its that anything you post(well almost anything) that is backed up by a solid, reasonable argument you will never have a problem with voicing your opinion.Mods are humans as well and make mistakes and we all have our own perceptions about various things.
The good posters that you are directing this blog to are already aware of this.
Cya around ^^
Cackle™
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 02 2011 19:33 GMT
#25
dear internet,

i hate yes-men. i hate people who will quote you, agree with you, and generally be all brown nosy just because of status or affiliation. its my disgust of this phenomena that allows me to be frank and direct, and why i enjoy debating with barrin, because hes a smart guy who can throw stuff back at you without relying on the majority, and also because hes man enough to actually stop, read, and understand the other point of view.

quality poster right here, folks
starleague forever
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 02 2011 19:34 GMT
#26
EvilTeletubby is the one to be afraid of imo
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
December 02 2011 19:40 GMT
#27
i like that you call bud "greeny greens". this will now be what i ask my dealer for.
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 19:48:33
December 02 2011 19:48 GMT
#28
On December 03 2011 04:34 Bibbit wrote:
EvilTeletubby is the one to be afraid of imo

No. He is cute, squishy, and overall, lovable. At least until he bites, scratches, claws, bms, and bans you. Then you may be afraid, very afraid.

Also, by this post do you mean to say that you are like this guy?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
December 02 2011 20:06 GMT
#29
On December 03 2011 03:45 chingchong99 wrote:
tldr

User was temp banned for this post.

I found this seriously funny in the context of the thread.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
December 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#30
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 02 2011 20:17 GMT
#31
So... no chance of cool nicknames between us i guess ;_;
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
December 02 2011 20:27 GMT
#32
On December 03 2011 05:06 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:45 chingchong99 wrote:
tldr

User was temp banned for this post.

I found this seriously funny in the context of the thread.


So it wasn't just me? Good
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
December 02 2011 20:33 GMT
#33
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 02 2011 20:35 GMT
#34
I'm just kidding around. I like calling people fun names. For example, I once refered to Aeres as "AE-dawg". About a page later he realized it was him, and was like " 'AE-dawg'? O_o" :D
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 20:45:48
December 02 2011 20:45 GMT
#35
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 02 2011 22:18 GMT
#36
Barrin, you're doin fine man! And lol @ "tldr" guy - he aint seen nothing yet
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 02 2011 22:47 GMT
#37
On December 03 2011 05:45 Barrin wrote:
I just wanted to take this opportunity to say this cuz I haven't had a chance to post about it yet.

I had a little kitty named Aeres not long ago (well, spelled Ares, as in the god of war not the sign). Tabby (mostly orange). Poor cat had a short but good life (he loved outside, and outside he was). But then when he went to get neutered, he was dead when we went to pick him up. Nobody really knows for sure but we think he OD'd on whatever vet used to knock him out... vet probably looked at him and saw a very strong cat (he was) and might have given him a little extra D: Luv'd that cat so much but I personally made sure he had a particularly good life while he was here (had no idea he wouldn't be here long ofc) so I don't feel so bad about it. RIP Ares <3

(every time I see Aeres or Ares I think of that cat lol)

Meow.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
December 03 2011 08:44 GMT
#38
On December 03 2011 04:34 Bibbit wrote:
EvilTeletubby is the one to be afraid of imo


Correct.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 03 2011 10:22 GMT
#39
sigh, now I don't even know TL staff anymore

genuine question, who are you? don't think i've ever seen your user name before
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 03 2011 10:56 GMT
#40
Hey Barrin, are you capable of ridiculously frivolous bans, i.e. a 2 minute ban?
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
December 03 2011 12:17 GMT
#41
On December 03 2011 05:16 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:24 South wrote:
Maybe because it seems like you're taking yourself too seriously. This post, for example.

Too true. Fuck. Can't help it D: 95% of the time I'm either completely serious or not serious in the slightest. I try really hard to change this but I can't help but feel (read: know) that I was (not purposely) brought up like this. It's kinda ingrained in me, trust me I don't like it.

A big part of me being so serious (it's also me being "intellectual") comes from the fact that most things that irritate me are derived mostly from stupidity. I have this thing where I utterly refuse to contribute to irritating stupidity (playful trolling is different), which kinda leads me to being too serious. But I think too many people in this world aren't serious enough :D

I try my best not to show it and this is the first time I'm openly admitting it, but much like many other people get "ladder anxiety" I get "posting anxiety". Seriously, lol. I have been considering making a thread/blog questioning if other people feel the same. Well I mean, I really only get it when I make big thread OP's. That dude who said 'tldr' on the first page probably would have a heart attack clicking on any of these links of my OP's:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137143
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166707
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170129
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177832
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=178253
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215186
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271257
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271256
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273780
(yes, I have more, these are my best).


I know of this posting anxiety you speak of. Often times I'll reword something several times, only to retract my desire of posting at all. It's hard to find a balance between the relevance of the written/spoken word vs the desire to be heard.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
December 03 2011 15:13 GMT
#42
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Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 15:26:17
December 03 2011 15:21 GMT
#43
I get something similar to posting anxiety, but it's more like... laziness?? I start to make a great point, then I realize one of a few things:

1. Someone or a good amount of people are going to have a stupid counter-argument, miss the point, get half the point, get a different point out of context, make up their own point to argue with out of frustration with one small part of my point.

2. The original point isn't worth fighting that much for.

3. The audience won't even appreciate the insight my point brings.

4. If I am going to bother to make a point, I'd want to do a nice job and be able to put the effort needed to make it understood and/or discussable.

6. When I think about it and get past the above problems, sometimes I realize my point is just a fancy over-worded way of stating that I have different principles at the heart of the original point, but since principle is rarely ever seen as the heart of the argument, any argument that attempts to argue otherwise to the original point just seems like a giant waste of time.
-Basically it's just a lot of arguing that breaks down into the realization that we have different values or principles.

So... I usually keep my advice/ideas simple or solid, unless I feel like I am ready for a debate should the need arise

7. And then the above prompts me to almost rant or discuss bigger or other topics relative but unrelated, discouraging me more so due to the amount of writing involved or the fact that maybe I would be better spent putting that effort into a more relevant post on an different related topic. Maybe this post is a good example.


If you think people are worried about contributing to a discussion, I would probably just leave a lot of inquisitive open endings/?'s on your replies. That just seems more inviting to me. Also, if your a really cynical poster, that attitude will probably scare people away as well. Condescending or looking-for-a-fight type of posts probably won't work out too well for you as well, but that's just common sense I guess. Being neutral and objective is usually the safest way to garner honest and thought out omissions out of a discussion in my opinion. Explaining yourself, and showing that you understood what has been explained to you is pretty helpful too, again, more common sense (at least to me). Hope some of that helps.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 03 2011 15:42 GMT
#44
On December 03 2011 03:27 Dispersion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:24 South wrote:
Maybe because it seems like you're taking yourself too seriously. This post, for example.


QFT, the only people I'd be careful about arguing with are IdrA and iNcoNtroL, because one could metaphorically tear my heart out through my eyes, and the other physically could.

This is a public Internet forum, true posters say whatever the fuck they want.


Why the heck anyone would be scared of IdrA let alone iNc is beyond me. Have you met them yet? O;

IdrA poses no threat and iNc is like a cuddly teddy bear, but yeah the first guy got it right.

I wouldn't think much of it to be honest.
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