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Dreamhack Winter Post-mortem - Page 12

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stratman
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada110 Posts
November 29 2011 08:31 GMT
#221
I only heard the normal flak from the same five trolls who hate every caster - it seemed that the people saying the casters looked tired were coming from a place of sympathy (wow they are working these casters way too hard) rather than criticism. That being said I try to ignore stream chat as much as possible, so I probably missed the most hateful reactions.

I really enjoyed everyone's casting. The long hours must've been tough for you guys, and it's clearly not ideal working conditions. But most of us appreciate the hard work. It was an awesome tournament.
sucuriju
Profile Joined January 2011
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 10:47:28
November 29 2011 08:52 GMT
#222
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
November 29 2011 09:29 GMT
#223
On November 29 2011 10:19 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 10:07 Pabu wrote:
The problem is that TB does not and has not ever done a GREAT job casting. While he is an entertaining personality that has a lot of fans, he does not know enough about the game to not sound entirely out of his depth. The casters in sports tournaments are retired professionals or respected authorities, and the same is said for 99% of the SC2 casters in the Esports community.
TB can't crack gold league and it shows as he is flustered, repeating things Apollo has said, or clearly making mistakes. While his enthusiasm is good for the game, he lack of knowledge is upsetting to hear as a fan.
TB either commit to the game and become more knowledgeable, or stop casting a level of play 100 times higher than what you understand.


Great first post buddy! Now go leave TL forever.

So someone being a bit harsh (most of what he says is true I think, its the part about commitment that is off, as I think TB is committed. He is kind of like DjWheat imo, only noone gives wheat any flak. ) entitles you to be a dick too?
Borderline backseat moderating isnt exactly great posting either.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Icky
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark95 Posts
November 29 2011 09:32 GMT
#224
As the (apparently rare) TLer that isn't in Diamond, Masters or GM, I can say that I very much enjoy your casting, TB, at times far more so than Tastosis together. I find that Tasteless or Artosis are often much more fun when broken apart, for me. They're both very good analysts, but that's just not what everyone wants from casters. I agree that even the funtime part of a caster-duo needs to have a platform of knowledge and that you could do better in that regard, but anyone saying that you "have no place" casting SC2 is just out of touch. None of my friends into SC2 watch it for high level analysis, we watch it for the epic games.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
November 29 2011 09:53 GMT
#225
On November 29 2011 18:29 Grend wrote:
Borderline backseat moderating isnt exactly great posting either.


The irony in this statement is funny.

Also hey, thats me in the horsehead, cool! I should so bring that to the next DH as well.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
November 29 2011 10:07 GMT
#226
On November 29 2011 18:53 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 18:29 Grend wrote:
Borderline backseat moderating isnt exactly great posting either.


The irony in this statement is funny.

Also hey, thats me in the horsehead, cool! I should so bring that to the next DH as well.

Lol I see what you did there :-P
I just get annoyed when people tell others they're not wanted/needed like that. It's not really his choice to make.
(hence the moderating comment)
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
November 29 2011 10:14 GMT
#227
Nice blog TB

I'm glad you know your own flaws and speak about them openly
However, on camera it was all analysis and let's be honest, what place do I have there alongside Day9, Bitter, Tastosis and Apollo? What can I offer in that scenario? Nothing at all


Let's be honest - You're a great caster; Even more so when combined with Apollo.
I love your co-casting, but being part-time you cannot have the same knowledge as someone who dedicated their last 12 years to this game (Day9 / Tastosis) - so I'm happy to see you're actually aware of this.

Also:
There are times when I think it can be perceived that I'm ignoring Apollo's points, more often than not it's simply because his explanation is so thorough and accurate that I have no followup


... I actually wondered about this during your casts. Maybe it's just my personal opinion but sometimes you simply repeat Apollo's point, where I'd almost rather have you go on with something else - or explaining even further (e.g. drops: Apollo explaining how a drop killing double forges can be devastating - I wouldn't mind you explaining how much this delays upgrades/weakens the main army).

This was just my thoughts. Great blog man Enjoy Stockholm.
When will we be seeing you in action again?
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JohnGreggor
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 10:18:18
November 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#228
The best advice I can give you is to wear better clothes. Seriously. I know you want the top hat to be your thing, but it doesn't mean you can ignore everything else you are wearing. You are a caster, not a random sc2 fan. I hear Dario is quite the fashion expert, maybe you should hit him up.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 11:11:21
November 29 2011 10:19 GMT
#229
On November 29 2011 19:16 Gono wrote:
The best advice I can give you is to wear better clothes. Seriously. I know you want the top hat to be your thing, but it doesn't mean you can ignore everything else you are wearing. You are a caster, not a random sc2 fan.


That's really the least relevant thing i can think of tbh. Suit-jacket + t-shirt and jeans are hardly smart, proper attire either. TBH one of these days I'll do an event in a proper tailored suit, but Dreamhack isn't a suitable venue for that, plus I was one of 3 commentator in jeans + t-shirt for the finals yet they didn't get criticised for it.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Yngvi
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands70 Posts
November 29 2011 10:27 GMT
#230
Hey TB, thanks for the write-up. I loved your stream during the weekend and I never would've guessed that you got all that setup in just the nick of time. Really well done! Also it takes a man to admit they don't add analystic value to a panel of pro-level players. +1 to you
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 10:45:55
November 29 2011 10:42 GMT
#231
On November 29 2011 19:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:16 Gono wrote:
The best advice I can give you is to wear better clothes. Seriously. I know you want the top hat to be your thing, but it doesn't mean you can ignore everything else you are wearing. You are a caster, not a random sc2 fan.


That's really the least relevant thing i can think of tbh. Suit-jacket + t-shirt and jeans are hardly smart, proper attire either. TBH one of these days I'll do an event in a proper tailored suit, but Dreamhack isn't a suitable venue for that, plus I was one of 3 commentator in jeans + t-shirt for the finals yet they didn't get criticise for it.


You would be surprised how concerned people are with the casters fashion sense, I remember the NASL feedback thread was mostly filled with comments about them wearing a sportsjacket+Tshirt.

That said, a ESPORTS embroidery on to the jacket/top hat should be prioritized.
kerp
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2 Posts
November 29 2011 10:54 GMT
#232
Really great job on everything, the only thing that really sucked was the sound in your booth, I stood for the most part a couple of meeter outside of the actual booth and I could hardly hear a thing. But other than that everything else was top notch!
JohnGreggor
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
November 29 2011 11:18 GMT
#233
On November 29 2011 19:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I was one of 3 commentator in jeans + t-shirt for the finals yet they didn't get criticised for it.


They didn't have to work with a top hat.
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
November 29 2011 11:28 GMT
#234
BTW TB, increasing your game knowledge is of course never a bad idea, but you shouldn't take criticism from TL on this point too seriously, especially those who want you to have perfect understanding of the game. It's a minority group from all those who watch, and they don't seem to want the kind of casting that will in fact help open up SC2 to a larger audience. You know how in TV series they usually have a new guy or something like that who the main characters can explain what they're doing to so that they can explain it to us the viewers, I'd rather see you take the role of the person asking basic - to mid advanced level questions of your analytical counterpart than yet another analytical caster.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
November 29 2011 11:37 GMT
#235
Great job TB, and thanks for the insight.

My biggest complain with DH was that it just feels like an MLG but with a massively smaller budget. DH has been the biggest LAN in the world for ages, it makes no sense that it feels so small and unprepared (then again, I was only watching stream, I haven't actually been there). So many issues during the events, and the speakers are just dreadful, thank god for the casters who are WAY more professional.
Lip the Pencilboy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Italy420 Posts
November 29 2011 12:26 GMT
#236
this writeup confirms my honest respect and adoration for this big man! too bad i didnt shake your hand at DH
Moderator"Ieri ho bevuto troppo, stasera bevo solo Birra!" - DEBO IS MY PERSONAL SC2-HERO
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
November 29 2011 12:30 GMT
#237
It should be noted that the schedule wasn't just tough for the casters. Since the arena had a hockey game being played the day before, most of the production crew had to work all night on building the rig and setting everything up and then had to continue working with the production for the finals in some 24 hour shifts or even longer.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Wout
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands76 Posts
November 29 2011 12:35 GMT
#238
Thanks for the stellar casting TB. Dreamhack was amazing, everyone did a great job.
ElliePW
Profile Joined October 2011
9 Posts
November 29 2011 14:01 GMT
#239
Hey TB,

Don't worry so much about analysis. I said something like this in the chat at the time. You may not have pro level knowledge of the game but you ARE a pro level caster. You are the exciting guy with a great voice. The ability to Host and quip and talk really really fast and cheer are just as vital to a great cast as being able to analyse the play. Adding a caster like you to an analyst takes the spectator experience from Golf to Football.

The people who don't like what you do because you can't give pro level analysis, they are %$#ing golf fans. They want to watch a game because they know sooo much about they can smile smugly and nod along while people talk about the evolving meta game.

People who watch you want, OMFG marines are shooting stuff, that thing exploded, **pop gaming culture reference** blood everywhere **horrible pun** GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

I'm not really hiding my bias, I think you are WAY more entertaining to watch, and when you work with dApollo we get the best of both worlds.

Just because you are forever gold league doesn't make you not a pro level caster.
ZombyBatman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
November 29 2011 14:37 GMT
#240
Hey just a random viewer from the states that doesn't play SC2:

Good job!

Seemed to be a motley crue on the couch, but it made sense in a weird way.
Satisfaction is the death of desire.
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