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Dreamhack Winter Post-mortem - Page 14

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pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
November 29 2011 18:00 GMT
#261
I acctually got banned the first day of DH because I commented the fact that you missed a spire going down and something else so I didn't give myself the chance to thank you and give you credit for the rest of the weekend, everyone can make mistakes and I like your passion when you're commentating! Just some more knowledge about the game and you're a top-class caster imho Keep it up!
If you can chill.. Chill!
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
November 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#262
Unless Dreamhack died i believe it should be "Post Eventum"
iNcontrol, IdrA,Lz, Strifecro, Axslav, Machine, Demuslim! EG Fighting!!!~~
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 29 2011 18:37 GMT
#263
Great post thanks a lot for your casting and for posting this. I do however think you are wrong in your coach conclusion.

Some people are play-by-play orientated commentators and TB is the best one of these by far. It only adds to your credibility that you realize this. This is also why the ball should have been dropped from tastosis to you and not day[9]. You should have been the one to go "holy shit I hope I didn't interrupt the cast with my pounding heart I definitively felt Hero had the lead at several points..." And THEN the others can drop their analysis and after that you can wrap and give it back to casters.

Day[9] definitively takes to much room and comes off as pretty full of himself (This is my personal opinion and it's unrelated to the point above, still a day[9] fan but imo he needs to chill a little
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
November 29 2011 19:39 GMT
#264
I am not your biggest fan. Well, not of your casting anyway. BUT:

1. You nail every point on why I am not your biggest fan. You are getting better (much, much better). As for not playing off well with Apollo. Bull. He is by far the best casting partner you have been paired with. Why continue on something that has been very well explained? You are the initiator, Apollo brings the conclusions.

2. Awesome writeup.

3. Please, make the host thing happen. While your commentary is by no means bad anymore, you hosting would be sweet. It is also the next logical step in how to really bring the production value up as you say.

4. Casting couch. Yes. I really saw the potential flowing from that couch. And I saw how uncomfortable you were there the whole time. Also, how the hell is anyone supposed to get a word in amongst Tastosis and day9?
All in all, the couch did not work, but damn, it really really could.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
November 29 2011 19:54 GMT
#265
Great writeup! The hard work you are putting in is really showing and very much appreciated. You and Apollo did a fantastic job at DH!

As I pointed out before though, and someone else pointed out earlier in the comments here, I think having you being the host of sorts in the couch would be an ideal solution. It would make the entire thing a little more structured I think, it would be easier to distribute the time more evenly between the people in the couch and I'm sure it would set you in a more comfortable role than analysing games.

Thanks for helping making DH such an awesome event!
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
November 29 2011 20:21 GMT
#266
Very nice write up. I think all 6 of the casters did a fantastic job, but I'm impressed with not only the honest write up but that you take the time to respond to people's comments on it.

On a slightly irrelevant addendum, I'd never watched or played SC/BW/SC2 until I saw your stream about 6 months ago, and a couple of weeks ago I found myself travelling to Insomnia to watchg my first tournament in person and had an awesome time, thanks!
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 29 2011 21:23 GMT
#267
Awesome write-up, TB! You really did a great job at DH.
yousaba
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden55 Posts
November 30 2011 01:31 GMT
#268
[B]
My biggest complaint, as someone who was there, is that (watching the VODS) the arena didn't look or sound nearly as impressive. It was INSANE and I wish it was really visible on the stream as it was for us there. Oh well, until next time! =D


i agree entirely.
i think pictures taken from the crowd give a better idea of how awesome it was.

here was my POV:
http://imgur.com/a/bRLcX
Zumm
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany122 Posts
November 30 2011 01:38 GMT
#269
Great blogpost TB, I always enjoy it when you are on stage. Not for the whole tournament, but that goes for every caster though.

I like variety between Day[9]'ish analysis casting and your entertainment casting.

Keep it up
Roomso
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden38 Posts
November 30 2011 03:19 GMT
#270
Great blogpost. I would love to see you hosting events like this. Esports is more than starcraft and we need ppl who know about more than one game to host these kinds of things. The guy who was put in charge of this at Dreamhack did not do a very good job unfortunally.

As you pointed out, you may not have much to offer anlysis-wise (yet) but when you get excited about the game it's freaking awesome.

Much love
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
November 30 2011 04:59 GMT
#271
I've always enjoyed you as a caster TB, it works really well when you have somebody who can crack jokes and provide some exciting commentary next to somebody like Apollo.

Also: I wasn't even aware Apollo was sick! (Although I missed most of Dreamhack) kudos to you both though!
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
gabbegubbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden67 Posts
November 30 2011 08:40 GMT
#272
I like your casting during the games. But as you said yourself. 3 might be the magic number for the "e-sports sofa" and instead have you as the host of the show. Since you got a experince from all the games that is played at dreamhack and are natural talent at talking to a crowd that whould be awsome! Also as you said the sofa is more of a deeper analysis of the game we just watched and that fits better to someone like day9 who does nothing but starcrafting for a living.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 11:23:08
November 30 2011 11:21 GMT
#273

I am not legit as an analyst, but have never claimed to be one to begin with. There is more to public speaking than just game knowledge.


But that's what i like about your casting. I don't really want to have an all analytic commentated match. That's your strenght. Hope you'll never get good enough to don't have appolo by your side. Because i really like how you do now.

Damn your voice and tone is so awesome that i could imagine your voice while reading your article.

Keep up the good work.

I'm all with you Master Biscuit

EDIT : Oh and by the way. Musical entrance for players would be SOOOO Huge. I really hope to see that one day for SC2.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
November 30 2011 12:49 GMT
#274
There is something I forgot to bring up. In regards to Apollo, there is a flaw he sometimes does that perhaps you can talk with him about? When he spots for example a drop, he often says something like "Oh and he is being dropped as well" without saying where, which means you either have to actively look for the drop (which looks slightly silly as you control the camera and you may not find it in time regardless, especially if there are multiple things going on) or you have to ask him where (which sounds quite silly and makes you look slightly foolish).

It would be better if he always just said where the action is taking place after making such a remark. Such as "There is a drop incoming to the main" or "There's DT's killing the probe line at the three a'clock" and the likes.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 30 2011 12:52 GMT
#275
On November 30 2011 21:49 Paladia wrote:
There is something I forgot to bring up. In regards to Apollo, there is a flaw he sometimes does that perhaps you can talk with him about? When he spots for example a drop, he often says something like "Oh and he is being dropped as well" without saying where, which means you either have to actively look for the drop (which looks slightly silly as you control the camera and you may not find it in time regardless, especially if there are multiple things going on) or you have to ask him where (which sounds quite silly and makes you look slightly foolish).

It would be better if he always just said where the action is taking place after making such a remark. Such as "There is a drop incoming to the main" or "There's DT's killing the probe line at the three a'clock" and the likes.


Actually that's not a problem at all and is one of our signals. He holds his camera on the drop and I instantly snap to it via the hotkeys. We don't miss drops like that anymore as a result
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
ReTrY
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom79 Posts
November 30 2011 13:53 GMT
#276
Thanks again for all your hard work, especially doing DH the week after being at i44.. you must be totally shattered.

I spoke to you for a while at the bar at i44 and you're a great guy. Keep it up and hope to see you at i45!
From the UK but never heard of iSeries? http://www.multiplay.co.uk/events/
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 30 2011 14:18 GMT
#277
"Welcome ladies and gentlemen to DREAMHACK!!!" in TB voice? Yeah, I can get behind that, definitely. Get on this dreamhack, tb as host/mc.
siii
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway251 Posts
November 30 2011 15:38 GMT
#278
You're improving for every tournament, and your self critique is among the best i've seen. You picked up on everything I could possibly mention!
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 30 2011 16:49 GMT
#279
Just got done catching up on this tournie via vods etc and just wanted to drop a line to say I really appreciated the hard work you (and all the rest) put into this event. Also read the blog and it was informative and interesting.
Keep at it TB!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
ftjust
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden43 Posts
November 30 2011 17:05 GMT
#280
love you TB noone can question your dedication to esports i think all dhw casting was fine, despite some people being really sick. poor appolo really looked terrible i even liked the couch discussion going on bettwen games even if everyone didnt get equalamount of mictime it was fine to me
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