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I doubt anyone will find this interesting enough to read, but if you were looking to get the new Halo:CE and don't know much about it yet, let me enlighten you.
It all started 2 weeks ago. I had heard they were making an anniversary edition of Halo, but I didn't really know anything about it. I was at a Gamestop and whilst browsing there I struck up an idle conversation with the employee there. The topic eventually turned to the new Halo. From talking to him it seemed like the game was essentially going to be old school Halo with new graphics but the option to switch back to the old graphics too. From talking to him, it sounded like this included the multiplayer. I could not have been more wrong in this assumption. (note: I don't fault the employee too much for this, I should have done my own research first and not just trusted to what I heard from him)
The singleplayer campaign is exactly what was promised. You can even play it over Xbox Live(XBL). The multiplayer however, is another beast entirely. Its just Reach. On Halo maps... I know for me and many of my friends, we were hoping for an exact port of the Halo game playable over XBL. While not perfect, the ridiculous firepower of the pistol and the shotgun that might as well be a sniper rifle were what made the game fun for us. (Also the rocket launcher that could 1 shot you even with an overshield at full strength)
Edit: Skyrim is amazing, the most amazing game ever, EVER. You are all right, your mothers love you and bright and happy things lie in your future. I was 100% wrong, there is nothing wrong with Skyrim. Now please, Fuck Off. I meant this to really be about Halo.
+ Show Spoiler +While at the midnight release of Halo I decided to purchase Skyrim too. I had played it earlier that day on my friend's Xbox. It was awesome! There were some things that bugged me (one being having to play on the controller) but overall it seemed worth the money. Since I'm a PC guy and I remember all the awesome content that you could download for free for both Morrowind and Oblivion I got the PC version over the Xbox one.(Also, I still have one of the original Shitboxes which would probably explode after an hour of Skyrim) As some of you may have anticipated, Skyrim was made for consoles. The software is optimized for it and the pc version is simply a port of it. This means its rife with problems. You move the mouse and the game takes 3 seconds to respond, it has mouse accel on by default and the only way to disable it is to modify the .ini, and the spell graphics didn't even show up on my computer until I downloaded a mod which fixed it. Not to mention its linked to Steam, which pisses me off.
Beyond all the technical failures of Skyrim, the 'tutorial' is 15 minutes long and impossible to skip.... Seriously... wtf? In oblivion you couldn't tell the game to skip the tutorial either, but you could save just before you exited it where you could modify your characters race, stats, etc. In Skyrim there is no point where you can choose at the last minute to change your race(which is the only thing you choose at the beginning since it has a talent tree system) Also, most of the tutorial is you having your hands tied and just following people around. So much fun... NOT.
There's tons more to be said about Skyrim and its failings, but I'll leave that until another time.
  
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Skyrim is fucking amazing, no idea what you are talking about.
I played Oblivion and enjoyed every single bit of it. I've played about 20h of Skyrim and I am enjoying it even more! I'vent experienced any mouse issues yet, nor problems with the rendering of the spells or any other issue besides a crash when I alt-tabbed once and a dungeon that wouldnt load for me for some reason.
For me, Skyrim is a huge win.
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The game has hours and hours of gameplay and you are upset over 15 minutes in the beginning? Give it more time lol, it's an amazing game. I have have very minor glitches (i.e. water will shake or npc runs walks into a wall) but it hasn't taken away from the experience.
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Once you get past the beginning, yeah its awesome, but every time I want to create a new character I gotta go through that? The op obv comes off as super negative but no doubt once they patch some of the mouse issues Skyrim will be well worth the money, but for now it was a complete waste of my time and money. Its mainly my disappointment that they made it so much for the console and not the PC, which has so much more room to grow with all the custom mods.
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I feel the same way that it's focused on consoles but it's miles better than Oblivion. Still doesn't touch Morrowind, but c'mon, what could 
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In Skyrim, you can turn into a werewolf, knock people over with your voice, get married and get your spouse to cook you a meal, and you can cook steaks.
STEAKS.
Best game ever.
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you seem to be complaining about the first 10 minutes of skyrim, how about you play some more then get back to me
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That's odd. I've had absolutely none of the issues that you're talking about. Literally. Zero. Unless you want to call the part where i was annoyed with my mouse speed in the beginning and i went into the controls and turned the sensitivity way the fuck up...and then that was all done and better.
As far as the character creation...it's the first thing you do after the intro. Why would you need to save immediately before it? its the FIRST thing you do. Or is it just that you're incapable of sitting for two minutes through RP in the beginning? Why are you playing an RPG then?
And comparing it to WoWs talent tree system? Seriously? Like, my brain is actually melting right now. Seriously?
By the way, did you actually make any argument at all for why it's CLEARLY made for consoles other than your own problems with the game?
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On November 16 2011 10:02 Spessi wrote:
That's odd. I've had absolutely none of the issues that you're talking about. Literally. Zero. Unless you want to call the part where i was annoyed with my mouse speed in the beginning and i went into the controls and turned the sensitivity way the fuck up...and then that was all done and better.
As far as the character creation...it's the first thing you do after the intro. Why would you need to save immediately before it? its the FIRST thing you do. Or is it just that you're incapable of sitting for two minutes through RP in the beginning? Why are you playing an RPG then?
And comparing it to WoWs talent tree system? Seriously? Like, my brain is actually melting right now. Seriously?
By the way, did you actually make any argument at all for why it's CLEARLY made for consoles other than your own problems with the game?
Yeah I just put the sensitivity up and now its fine.
But I do agree it is definitely a console port and has a few problems but doesn't bother me still having a blast with the game.
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Skyrim is a great game. The opening "story" alone didn't turn you on, ok... Every game has flaws, but Skyrim is probably the best RPG for the year so far (on pc at least). Seriously, do you know how many people waited almost a year for this game after the release date announcement?
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Unskippable tutorial is widely acknowledged among game designers as a game design flaw, no need for people to get so defensive. In Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas Bethesda has made it so players who wish to roll a new character do not need to play the tutorial a second or third time. If they didn't do it for Skyrim, it's a step back in terms of design.
It's not just "every game has flaws", it's something that Bethesda did right previously but wrong this time.
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That's why I'm waiting to get Skyrim for at least a month or so. I knew that it was going to have ridiculous problems and given the amazing modding community all ES games have had, I'll give it a few weeks before they have 90% of the problems fixed
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On November 16 2011 10:02 Spessi wrote:
That's odd. I've had absolutely none of the issues that you're talking about. Literally. Zero. Unless you want to call the part where i was annoyed with my mouse speed in the beginning and i went into the controls and turned the sensitivity way the fuck up...and then that was all done and better.
As far as the character creation...it's the first thing you do after the intro. Why would you need to save immediately before it? its the FIRST thing you do. Or is it just that you're incapable of sitting for two minutes through RP in the beginning? Why are you playing an RPG then?
And comparing it to WoWs talent tree system? Seriously? Like, my brain is actually melting right now. Seriously?
By the way, did you actually make any argument at all for why it's CLEARLY made for consoles other than your own problems with the game?
The interface.
If the UI doesn't scream CONSOLE AGGGHHHH at you, then you're crazy.
However, Skyrim is amazing even with its annoying interface, and I am in love. ~<3
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Yeah you'll get a lot of hate about Skyrim. After playing almost a week of it I personally think Skyrim is the best non-multiplayer game I've ever played before. I am constantly being impressed and shocked and awed every new quest. I love it.
Hope the game changes your mind as you get to some of the amazing parts and storylines in it
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On November 16 2011 11:35 McKTenor13 wrote:
Yeah you'll get a lot of hate about Skyrim. After playing almost a week of it I personally think Skyrim is the best non-multiplayer game I've ever played before.
Really? How old are you? Just curious. I like Skyrim very much btw.
About the OP, just how often do you make new characters? I mean this game is at least 40-50 hours per character if you do only the main quest plus a guild. So, I dunno what you talking bout.
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On November 16 2011 10:00 Sega92 wrote:
you seem to be complaining about the first 10 minutes of skyrim, how about you play some more then get back to me
I played it for 5 hours on my friend's xbox, and as I said at the bottom of the post, there was more about why Skyrim annoyed me, but for another time. I made this thread mainly because Halo was such a huge disappointment and included the Skyrim stuff mainly because it was on the backburner of my mind. And now this discussion is entirely about Skyrim. Sigh.
On November 16 2011 12:22 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 11:35 McKTenor13 wrote:
Yeah you'll get a lot of hate about Skyrim. After playing almost a week of it I personally think Skyrim is the best non-multiplayer game I've ever played before. Really? How old are you? Just curious. I like Skyrim very much btw. About the OP, just how often do you make new characters? I mean this game is at least 40-50 hours per character if you do only the main quest plus a guild. So, I dunno what you talking bout.
I usually like to make 4 or 5 and play them for 2 hours each to get a feel for how different styles play before I pick which one I want to really play the game with.
On November 16 2011 11:10 chesshaha wrote:
Skyrim is a great game. The opening "story" alone didn't turn you on, ok... Every game has flaws, but Skyrim is probably the best RPG for the year so far (on pc at least). Seriously, do you know how many people waited almost a year for this game after the release date announcement?
The opening itself was a fine idea but as I stated above I usually make several characters first and thus this part is more meaningful to me.
On November 16 2011 10:02 Spessi wrote:
That's odd. I've had absolutely none of the issues that you're talking about. Literally. Zero. Unless you want to call the part where i was annoyed with my mouse speed in the beginning and i went into the controls and turned the sensitivity way the fuck up...and then that was all done and better.
As far as the character creation...it's the first thing you do after the intro. Why would you need to save immediately before it? its the FIRST thing you do. Or is it just that you're incapable of sitting for two minutes through RP in the beginning? Why are you playing an RPG then?
And comparing it to WoWs talent tree system? Seriously? Like, my brain is actually melting right now. Seriously?
By the way, did you actually make any argument at all for why it's CLEARLY made for consoles other than your own problems with the game?
Well you are lucky to have no problems, when I googled solutions to my problems, it seemed like many others were suffering the same as me. Read above for response to your character creation question.
Its like wow's system in that you get 1 point per level up to put into a tree. You have to unlock the bottom(root) of the tree to progress further and put points into later perks(fancy name for talents). You have chances to stun your opponent, get a critical hit and do %extra damage. How is that not like wow's talent system?
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to be fair, I don't think console was the source of all the bugs, every bethesda games are buggy at start, I would say skyrim is one of the better ones already
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On November 16 2011 16:03 MinscandBoo wrote:
Its like wow's system in that you get 1 point per level up to put into a tree. You have to unlock the bottom(root) of the tree to progress further and put points into later perks(fancy name for talents). You have chances to stun your opponent, get a critical hit and do %extra damage. How is that not like wow's talent system?
you mean, there is a progressive skill system O.o? I think a progressive system is millions of times better than just being able to pick the last skill or all the op skills at the start.And saying chance to stun and do % extra damage is wow? thats like saying "Oh man its fire lightning and ice spells THEY JUST COPIED DIABLO!"
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OP, are you aware that you CAN in fact save the game just before making your character - during the character creation screen? So you can in fact skip the entire opening cinematic + a vast majority of the scripted stuff. What's left is honestly no more than 5 mins long if you just storm through it.
As for the rest of your complaints, I honestly don't sympathize at all... yes the controls are "different" - guess what, I got used to them in a couple of hours just fine. Yes the game is "bugged" - I've been experienced game crashes regularly. And you know what? I just don't care. Because this game is amazing, beautiful and immersive - all the things I've missed in an RPG for a long time and it'd take way bigger problems to distract me from that.
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On November 16 2011 08:56 MinscandBoo wrote:
I was at a Gamestop and whilst browsing there I struck up an idle conversation with the employee there.
What I have learned over the years is to NEVER go on information an employee tells you. Most of the time these are people who don't play games themselves. Or well atleast that was for the stores I went to.
But it seems you've found this out aswell, as you yourself mentioned.
Anyway, I'm a big Halo fan and like you said the campaign was exactly what they promised but I already knew that there was not going to be a multiplayer but rather a map pack with some of the Halo: CE maps.
I wasn't really happy about that either because I too enjoyed the multiplayer, so i understand where you're coming from.
As for Skyrim, I'm happy I dont have that problem because I'm more of a controller person when it comes to these kind of games. And the tutorial is pretty awesome, especially compared to the one from Oblivion. Like Steveling said, a playthrough requires atleast 40-50 hours. So why is it so bad to do those 15 minutes everytime?
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