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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
November 08 2011 13:06 GMT
#61
Simply amazing. Good luck my friend.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
November 08 2011 13:08 GMT
#62
Great and inspirational read, what saddens me is that you allocated your skills to things that doesn't contribute to society (poker and trading) whereas you say you are not intersted in money, i feel that it would have been better to see a hardworking and talented individual trying to help solving the numerous problems our society are going through today, i'm not saying you should be our savior but at the end of a hardworking day, ask yourself what did you produce.

For some people making money is a sufficient goal in itself, and indeed you can do pretty much everything with enougth money, but since it's not something you are to much into, i am wondering why you didn't choose a field where you quality work doesn't involve gambling with the society
twitter@RickyMarou
MIsterToto
Profile Joined November 2010
Argentina47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 13:10:47
November 08 2011 13:10 GMT
#63
On November 08 2011 20:13 BrTarolg wrote:
Trading is basically this. Everyone is a trader. Have you ever wanted to buy a house? You're going long the housing market. Are you gonna buy your house when its cheap or expensive? Of course you want to buy it when it's cheap - and when is this? Right after a recession of course! Recessions happen because markets are full of inefficiencies and stuff is overpriced more than it should be.
And people don't just buy houses, they sell houses. They sell houses when prices are high, and then buy then when prices are low. Sound familiar? And what is the result? People get fairly priced housing.
Sometimes, this isn't the case, for example, the housing bubble. Now, traders didnt' "cause" the housing bubble. What caused the bubble is that people tried to spend more than they had, artificially inflating the price. All the traders were trying to sell houses during the bubble because they knew that they were overpriced. However, the bubble was caused by normal, regular, non traders, being very greedy and trying to buy houses when they couldn't afford it. Traders didn't cause the price of houses to go up and then crash, YOU did. Normal, regular people created a huge inefficiency in the market, and some (smart) traders made an absolute killing from the fallout - the bigger the inefficiency, the more money there is to be made!


I'll just quote this bit, because it strucks me as the most biased, but before going into a a rant about your post, I'm gonna ask the OP: Have you ever read ANYTHING about non-neoclassical economic theory? Or any economic theory at all? Because you are talking some crazy shit, man.
Perón cumple, Evita dignifica.
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 13:23:20
November 08 2011 13:21 GMT
#64
On November 08 2011 22:08 Marou wrote:
Great and inspirational read, what saddens me is that you allocated your skills to things that doesn't contribute to society (poker and trading) whereas you say you are not intersted in money, i feel that it would have been better to see a hardworking and talented individual trying to help solving the numerous problems our society are going through today, i'm not saying you should be our savior but at the end of a hardworking day, ask yourself what did you produce.

For some people making money is a sufficient goal in itself, and indeed you can do pretty much everything with enougth money, but since it's not something you are to much into, i am wondering why you didn't choose a field where you quality work doesn't involve gambling with the society


And if he'd have said that he'd give his all to be great at Starcraft 2, soccer, football, become an actor or a game maker of sorts? None of those "contribute to society" but who the fuck cares? He says several times that it's his dream to do this, who are you guys (I say guys because you're not the only one who does this) to tell him it's a bad choice?
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
November 08 2011 13:22 GMT
#65
Beautiful thing to read in the morning.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
November 08 2011 13:58 GMT
#66
On November 08 2011 22:21 Aldehyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 22:08 Marou wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Great and inspirational read, what saddens me is that you allocated your skills to things that doesn't contribute to society (poker and trading) whereas you say you are not intersted in money, i feel that it would have been better to see a hardworking and talented individual trying to help solving the numerous problems our society are going through today, i'm not saying you should be our savior but at the end of a hardworking day, ask yourself what did you produce.

For some people making money is a sufficient goal in itself, and indeed you can do pretty much everything with enougth money, but since it's not something you are to much into, i am wondering why you didn't choose a field where you quality work doesn't involve gambling with the society


And if he'd have said that he'd give his all to be great at Starcraft 2, soccer, football, become an actor or a game maker of sorts? None of those "contribute to society" but who the fuck cares? He says several times that it's his dream to do this, who are you guys (I say guys because you're not the only one who does this) to tell him it's a bad choice?


I'm not telling it's a bad choice, it certainly is a good one, hell he'll be doing what he likes and making a good life of of it, i'm glad for him.

And actually, when you entertain people (through SC2, real sport or any artistic related content), you make the world slightly better with your own tools, providing good times to people that are following you and cheering for you to success.

It's not about what you actually produce for the society, it's about what you bring to the table for everyone while you work. When you play poker or trade, you enter a room where everybody has bring his assets and everybody is trying to take each other assets. I'm sure my view of trading is biaised but i just can't stand the economic state of our society, as people said in this thread this is probably more because of the laws that rule trading rather than the traders making all the harm, but at the end of the day, the trader is pulling the trigger.
twitter@RickyMarou
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
November 08 2011 13:59 GMT
#67
That was a good read, thanks. I also enjoy reading the Trading Thread even though I am not into trading at all myself.
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cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 08 2011 14:08 GMT
#68
This is soo weird I feel like i share a lot of the feelings you had but I havent reached my point of breaking through yet. I would love to hear how this works out for you, I'm sure you will do well. I just woke up and this was a fkcin amazing read to start my day before i go to work lol. Thank you for being so honest and sharing.. <3
Greed leads to just about all losses.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 08 2011 14:15 GMT
#69
On November 08 2011 20:17 Aldehyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 13:13 cmgillett wrote:
"So i'm chasing my dream. I'm putting everything aside to do it. I'll be sitting in front of a screen every day, for long hours, for the best years of my life.
Nobody is ever going to hear about me, i'm not gonna become famous. I'm not gonna contribute to society. I'm going to be the scum whos gonna make my fortune from the next financial crisis and global recession."

Yea fuck everyone else right? I admire your work ethic mate, but I wish you'd apply it to something else. We dont need more "scum", i think we have enough as is.



Who cares? This is the world we live in. I find it really weird how people look down on the people making a lot of money just because they aren't making that money "in the right way".

If trading is what the guy wants to do why shouldn't he? What else can he "apply" himself to? We're on a forum used by people following ESPORTS in some way or the other. Is it okay to make money playing Starcraft 2? Playing Starcraft 2 does in no way contribute to society.

Same thing with regular sports. What does Wayne Rooney contribute to society? Nothing, and yet he makes obscene amounts of cash for kicking a ball with his feet into a square net.

Sure, they might all be "scum" but then again, I see pretty much every human being as "scum" so I don't really care if some of those "scum" are also rich "scum".


I thought only a girl will talk say that about sports.

If I take games, sports, actors, musicians, television and circus acrobats away from your world I guarantee that you'll notice their role to your life.

@op

I stand corrected but a trader's contribution is not "regulating prices" since it's them who want a volatile market. And it's because of traders wanting to make money that houses change hands 5 times before someone who actually wants to stay in it paid 3 times the "fair" price.
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 15:00:21
November 08 2011 14:18 GMT
#70
Even though I think you're a BM arsehole, I'm glad you've found something that will make you happy. Good luck.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
November 08 2011 14:36 GMT
#71
While reading the whole: "I'm going to be the scum whos gonna make my fortune from the next financial crisis and global recession." my internal music player in my head was playing, and the song was: "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH"



Great blog, hope you succeed. I love capitalism
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Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 14:48:12
November 08 2011 14:47 GMT
#72
On November 08 2011 23:15 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 20:17 Aldehyde wrote:
On November 08 2011 13:13 cmgillett wrote:
"So i'm chasing my dream. I'm putting everything aside to do it. I'll be sitting in front of a screen every day, for long hours, for the best years of my life.
Nobody is ever going to hear about me, i'm not gonna become famous. I'm not gonna contribute to society. I'm going to be the scum whos gonna make my fortune from the next financial crisis and global recession."

Yea fuck everyone else right? I admire your work ethic mate, but I wish you'd apply it to something else. We dont need more "scum", i think we have enough as is.



Who cares? This is the world we live in. I find it really weird how people look down on the people making a lot of money just because they aren't making that money "in the right way".

If trading is what the guy wants to do why shouldn't he? What else can he "apply" himself to? We're on a forum used by people following ESPORTS in some way or the other. Is it okay to make money playing Starcraft 2? Playing Starcraft 2 does in no way contribute to society.

Same thing with regular sports. What does Wayne Rooney contribute to society? Nothing, and yet he makes obscene amounts of cash for kicking a ball with his feet into a square net.

Sure, they might all be "scum" but then again, I see pretty much every human being as "scum" so I don't really care if some of those "scum" are also rich "scum".


I thought only a girl will talk say that about sports.

If I take games, sports, actors, musicians, television and circus acrobats away from your world I guarantee that you'll notice their role to your life.


I never said that you should take it away, I never said that it wouldn't make a difference if it was gone. People in this thread have said stuff like "Oh, it's so sad that you use your skills and mindset for something that doesn't contribute to society. Why not go into medicine instead?"

Why does everything have to contribute to society?

On November 08 2011 22:58 Marou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 22:21 Aldehyde wrote:
On November 08 2011 22:08 Marou wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Great and inspirational read, what saddens me is that you allocated your skills to things that doesn't contribute to society (poker and trading) whereas you say you are not intersted in money, i feel that it would have been better to see a hardworking and talented individual trying to help solving the numerous problems our society are going through today, i'm not saying you should be our savior but at the end of a hardworking day, ask yourself what did you produce.

For some people making money is a sufficient goal in itself, and indeed you can do pretty much everything with enougth money, but since it's not something you are to much into, i am wondering why you didn't choose a field where you quality work doesn't involve gambling with the society


And if he'd have said that he'd give his all to be great at Starcraft 2, soccer, football, become an actor or a game maker of sorts? None of those "contribute to society" but who the fuck cares? He says several times that it's his dream to do this, who are you guys (I say guys because you're not the only one who does this) to tell him it's a bad choice?


I'm not telling it's a bad choice, it certainly is a good one, hell he'll be doing what he likes and making a good life of of it, i'm glad for him.

And actually, when you entertain people (through SC2, real sport or any artistic related content), you make the world slightly better with your own tools, providing good times to people that are following you and cheering for you to success.

It's not about what you actually produce for the society, it's about what you bring to the table for everyone while you work. When you play poker or trade, you enter a room where everybody has bring his assets and everybody is trying to take each other assets. I'm sure my view of trading is biaised but i just can't stand the economic state of our society, as people said in this thread this is probably more because of the laws that rule trading rather than the traders making all the harm, but at the end of the day, the trader is pulling the trigger.


You're not saying it's a bad choice and yet you kind of look down upon it. You think it's a profession worth less than others. Because it doesn't "contribute" to society.

I don't have any problem with athletes making huge sums of money out of kicking a ball into a net or running really fast or jumping really far. I don't have any problems with people making a living off of a video game. I also don't have a problem with people making money in other ways like this trading or poker (btw, if you're okay with real athletes making a lot of money because it's "entertainment" you shouldn't have any problem at all with poker).

It all seems to be so... I don't want to say that people are just jealous because it's something more than that, though I can't put my finger on what exactly.

I just think it's weird that one way of making money is more acceptable than others just because it "brings something to the table."
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
November 08 2011 14:52 GMT
#73
Good luck!
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RQShatter
Profile Joined August 2010
United States459 Posts
November 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#74
No offense to you but 90% of this feels fabricated.
Mikkerthebhu
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark154 Posts
November 08 2011 14:55 GMT
#75
On November 08 2011 15:20 wbirdy wrote:
Great read OP, good luck. Your motivation to succeed reminds me of this video



Not the same, but its pretty damn inspiring.


I am so pumped right now. Fantastic article and fantastic video. It really gives you a perspective of what true passion is. Now I am going to go for a run and get my daily duties done! Buuyah!

Thank you very much for the video and ofcorse the OP's article!
Carpe Diem
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
November 08 2011 14:55 GMT
#76
Great post. Can you tell us more about how you will spend these 12 hours/day? I'm asking as someone who is just becoming interested in trading. How will you structure your time and learning? Thanks and good luck!
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
November 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#77
Do what you love is what rewards you the most.
I'm a web developer and because of pressure to get more money I started a SAP ABAP course, with pays better and is easier to get a job. Worst thing I've done...I hated it, is old and hard to program, I wasted plenty of money and it isn't cheap to do a SAP course...
I wanted to do new things, work with new technologies, and now I'm starting to learn iOS development by myself and I'm chasing it as a dream, not just iOS, I wan't to work with web development overall, both native languages for iOS and Android and web for mobile. I doesn't pay as well as I would get paid for working with SAP, but I'm sure I'll be way happier working with it.
Tabula`Rasa
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore81 Posts
November 08 2011 15:13 GMT
#78
On November 08 2011 22:58 Marou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 22:21 Aldehyde wrote:
On November 08 2011 22:08 Marou wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Great and inspirational read, what saddens me is that you allocated your skills to things that doesn't contribute to society (poker and trading) whereas you say you are not intersted in money, i feel that it would have been better to see a hardworking and talented individual trying to help solving the numerous problems our society are going through today, i'm not saying you should be our savior but at the end of a hardworking day, ask yourself what did you produce.

For some people making money is a sufficient goal in itself, and indeed you can do pretty much everything with enougth money, but since it's not something you are to much into, i am wondering why you didn't choose a field where you quality work doesn't involve gambling with the society


And if he'd have said that he'd give his all to be great at Starcraft 2, soccer, football, become an actor or a game maker of sorts? None of those "contribute to society" but who the fuck cares? He says several times that it's his dream to do this, who are you guys (I say guys because you're not the only one who does this) to tell him it's a bad choice?


I'm not telling it's a bad choice, it certainly is a good one, hell he'll be doing what he likes and making a good life of of it, i'm glad for him.

And actually, when you entertain people (through SC2, real sport or any artistic related content), you make the world slightly better with your own tools, providing good times to people that are following you and cheering for you to success.

It's not about what you actually produce for the society, it's about what you bring to the table for everyone while you work. When you play poker or trade, you enter a room where everybody has bring his assets and everybody is trying to take each other assets. I'm sure my view of trading is biaised but i just can't stand the economic state of our society, as people said in this thread this is probably more because of the laws that rule trading rather than the traders making all the harm, but at the end of the day, the trader is pulling the trigger.


This is correct. Trading is a vice of capitalism, a vice that alienates men from men. It's not the rules, it's the system we live in. The rules are capitalist rules, and as long as they are, it will be every man for himself.
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
November 08 2011 15:46 GMT
#79
On November 08 2011 23:53 RQShatter wrote:
No offense to you but 90% of this feels fabricated.


Really? what's so suspicious about it?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
November 08 2011 15:49 GMT
#80
You keep talking about the bleak economic prospect of the eurozone, and about a soon coming recession. Two questions about this: First of all a eurozone recession is pretty much what everyone expects within the next few months to a year - how is your knowledge helping you beat the market? And second, even if you have more insight - how is the general idea of coming recession (which seems very vague and not too time bound) helping you in day trading or short term transactions generally?
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