Chasing my dream - Page 4

On November 08 2011 20:13 BrTarolg wrote:
Trading is basically this. Everyone is a trader. Have you ever wanted to buy a house? You're going long the housing market. Are you gonna buy your house when its cheap or expensive? Of course you want to buy it when it's cheap - and when is this? Right after a recession of course! Recessions happen because markets are full of inefficiencies and stuff is overpriced more than it should be.
And people don't just buy houses, they sell houses. They sell houses when prices are high, and then buy then when prices are low. Sound familiar? And what is the result? People get fairly priced housing.
Sometimes, this isn't the case, for example, the housing bubble. Now, traders didnt' "cause" the housing bubble. What caused the bubble is that people tried to spend more than they had, artificially inflating the price. All the traders were trying to sell houses during the bubble because they knew that they were overpriced. However, the bubble was caused by normal, regular, non traders, being very greedy and trying to buy houses when they couldn't afford it. Traders didn't cause the price of houses to go up and then crash, YOU did. Normal, regular people created a huge inefficiency in the market, and some (smart) traders made an absolute killing from the fallout - the bigger the inefficiency, the more money there is to be made!

On November 08 2011 22:08 Marou wrote:
Great and inspirational read, what saddens me is that you allocated your skills to things that doesn't contribute to society (poker and trading) whereas you say you are not intersted in money, i feel that it would have been better to see a hardworking and talented individual trying to help solving the numerous problems our society are going through today, i'm not saying you should be our savior but at the end of a hardworking day, ask yourself what did you produce.

For some people making money is a sufficient goal in itself, and indeed you can do pretty much everything with enougth money, but since it's not something you are to much into, i am wondering why you didn't choose a field where you quality work doesn't involve gambling with the society

On November 08 2011 22:21 Aldehyde wrote:


And if he'd have said that he'd give his all to be great at Starcraft 2, soccer, football, become an actor or a game maker of sorts? None of those "contribute to society" but who the fuck cares? He says several times that it's his dream to do this, who are you guys (I say guys because you're not the only one who does this) to tell him it's a bad choice?

On November 08 2011 20:17 Aldehyde wrote:


Who cares? This is the world we live in. I find it really weird how people look down on the people making a lot of money just because they aren't making that money "in the right way".

If trading is what the guy wants to do why shouldn't he? What else can he "apply" himself to? We're on a forum used by people following ESPORTS in some way or the other. Is it okay to make money playing Starcraft 2? Playing Starcraft 2 does in no way contribute to society.

Same thing with regular sports. What does Wayne Rooney contribute to society? Nothing, and yet he makes obscene amounts of cash for kicking a ball with his feet into a square net.

Sure, they might all be "scum" but then again, I see pretty much every human being as "scum" so I don't really care if some of those "scum" are also rich "scum".

On November 08 2011 23:15 JieXian wrote:


I thought only a girl will talk say that about sports.

If I take games, sports, actors, musicians, television and circus acrobats away from your world I guarantee that you'll notice their role to your life.

On November 08 2011 22:58 Marou wrote:


I'm not telling it's a bad choice, it certainly is a good one, hell he'll be doing what he likes and making a good life of of it, i'm glad for him.

And actually, when you entertain people (through SC2, real sport or any artistic related content), you make the world slightly better with your own tools, providing good times to people that are following you and cheering for you to success.

It's not about what you actually produce for the society, it's about what you bring to the table for everyone while you work. When you play poker or trade, you enter a room where everybody has bring his assets and everybody is trying to take each other assets. I'm sure my view of trading is biaised but i just can't stand the economic state of our society, as people said in this thread this is probably more because of the laws that rule trading rather than the traders making all the harm, but at the end of the day, the trader is pulling the trigger.

On November 08 2011 15:20 wbirdy wrote:
Great read OP, good luck. Your motivation to succeed reminds me of this video



Not the same, but its pretty damn inspiring.

On November 08 2011 22:58 Marou wrote:


I'm not telling it's a bad choice, it certainly is a good one, hell he'll be doing what he likes and making a good life of of it, i'm glad for him.

And actually, when you entertain people (through SC2, real sport or any artistic related content), you make the world slightly better with your own tools, providing good times to people that are following you and cheering for you to success.

It's not about what you actually produce for the society, it's about what you bring to the table for everyone while you work. When you play poker or trade, you enter a room where everybody has bring his assets and everybody is trying to take each other assets. I'm sure my view of trading is biaised but i just can't stand the economic state of our society, as people said in this thread this is probably more because of the laws that rule trading rather than the traders making all the harm, but at the end of the day, the trader is pulling the trigger.

On November 08 2011 23:53 RQShatter wrote:
No offense to you but 90% of this feels fabricated.