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Flipside
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
October 31 2011 04:04 GMT
#1
Hello again everyone I have been absent for a while and I have finally switched to Protoss. I feel like I am improving greatly and I am pretty solid in PvT/Z for my level (Silver). I still need to improve a lot in PvP though so if anyone has any tips/threads for learning PvP please PM me.

So since my last blog post I never switched to Protoss but I finally have in season 4. My record as of typing this is 5-1 with my 1 loss being PvP I'm very excited about where I am headed and hope to improve very much over the next few months.

I have received some free coaching from a High diamond Protoss I know it's not the best person to learn from as they are still learning but it improved my PvZ a lot (My only lesson was in PvZ). I'm hoping to have more lessons for the other MU's in the future as it is really important to improving my play.

I think I will start streaming my ladder games to show my improvements. So if anyone would like to watch my journey to becoming a better player you can watch my stream. Thank you all for reading and have a great Halloween.

EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
October 31 2011 05:24 GMT
#2
GL HF Yo.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 31 2011 05:34 GMT
#3
For PvP, just 4gate. Should work well into masters and by then you will be good enough to defend a 4gate and can start looking at branching out.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2011 05:40 GMT
#4
I would suggest doing 3 gate robo. its a solid build and hardcounters 3 gate blink which you see a lot. Just be ready for the chargelot/archon transition if it gets that far into the game which destroys heavy immortal usage.
Flipside
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
October 31 2011 05:58 GMT
#5
On October 31 2011 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I would suggest doing 3 gate robo. its a solid build and hardcounters 3 gate blink which you see a lot. Just be ready for the chargelot/archon transition if it gets that far into the game which destroys heavy immortal usage.


Ok thanks. I have been doing a randomly thrown together 3gate robo but I got destroyed by my opponents 3 gate robo. He went heavy Zealot/Stalker timing push at about 9:30-10min mark and it destroyed me. My comp at the time was like 3-4 stalkers 2 sentries and 1 immortal. I don't know if better placed FF at my nat would have helped me win that timing push but I got smashed hard then I lost my nat expo all my probes and after that point I gg'ed.
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
October 31 2011 07:09 GMT
#6
have u ever played bw?
i be that pretty motherfucker
Flipside
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
October 31 2011 07:24 GMT
#7
On October 31 2011 16:09 UrASofty wrote:
have u ever played bw?



No this is my first RTS. I have been playing Zerg since Jan and I just switched to Protoss this season and am having much more success. IMO and in others opinions my toss is at a high plat/mid diamond level. Where as my Zerg IMO is at Silver level if that. And that is just in the few days I have played toss. My only real trouble area is PvP otherwise I think I will make it to Diamond easy.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2011 07:42 GMT
#8
On October 31 2011 14:58 Trippy wrote:
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On October 31 2011 14:40 Dodgin wrote:
I would suggest doing 3 gate robo. its a solid build and hardcounters 3 gate blink which you see a lot. Just be ready for the chargelot/archon transition if it gets that far into the game which destroys heavy immortal usage.


Ok thanks. I have been doing a randomly thrown together 3gate robo but I got destroyed by my opponents 3 gate robo. He went heavy Zealot/Stalker timing push at about 9:30-10min mark and it destroyed me. My comp at the time was like 3-4 stalkers 2 sentries and 1 immortal. I don't know if better placed FF at my nat would have helped me win that timing push but I got smashed hard then I lost my nat expo all my probes and after that point I gg'ed.


What probably happened was you invested too much into econ and your expansion and got behind on unit count. Here's a pvp tip: Don't expand unless 1. You scout them expanding 2. You feel you are ahead enough that he cant kill you if you spend those 400 minerals on it. 3. You are far behind and need to take a risk to get back in the game.

I say this only because your example of 3-4 stalkers 2 sentries and 1 immortal seems like a very low unit count for 9:30-10:00 in.

If you are on two bases and he is on one. Don't build more than 26-28 probes. It may feel tempting,but the timing window is there to kill you if you get greedy. ( I assume you were able to scout since you had a robo ) Just produce units and keep even in that regard.
Flipside
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 08:14:10
October 31 2011 08:12 GMT
#9
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What probably happened was you invested too much into econ and your expansion and got behind on unit count. Here's a pvp tip: Don't expand unless 1. You scout them expanding 2. You feel you are ahead enough that he cant kill you if you spend those 400 minerals on it. 3. You are far behind and need to take a risk to get back in the game.

I say this only because your example of 3-4 stalkers 2 sentries and 1 immortal seems like a very low unit count for 9:30-10:00 in.

If you are on two bases and he is on one. Don't build more than 26-28 probes. It may feel tempting,but the timing window is there to kill you if you get greedy. ( I assume you were able to scout since you had a robo ) Just produce units and keep even in that regard.



I did scout an expo my expo was finishing as his was 1/2 done. At the start of his push I was 12 supply ahead and 1/2 way done with my 1st collosi. I think it may have been to too to many probes before units. If I had cb'ed my gates and invested more in units I think I would have not died to that push.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2011 08:13 GMT
#10
Well there you go then! Take that knowledge into your next game and you will do better and better

GLHF
Flipside
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
October 31 2011 08:14 GMT
#11
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On October 31 2011 17:13 Dodgin wrote:
Well there you go then! Take that knowledge into your next game and you will do better and better

GLHF


Thank you sir <3
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