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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#41
Why does the OP's first 4 thread links go to 3 threads about specific korean news (jaedong updates, kal and pure apply for ace, yellow advertises a poker site). I don't see why that has relevance to foreign broodwar (yes, I know the content of the thread posters will talk about it, but the thread themselves are only about korea).

Korea has been the place for bw for a long time. Definitely at this point investing in foreign bw is not going to happen.
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Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
September 26 2011 19:46 GMT
#42
[B]On September 27 2011 03:02 Hawk wrote:[/B

Actually, I'm talking to a condescending random on the internet,


lol, talk about Pot calling the kettle black.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2003 Posts
September 26 2011 20:09 GMT
#43
The way I see it, there are a number of possible paths left for BW.

1) Things might continue to go downhill and the game will essentially die. Sadly, this seems pretty likely.
2) Things will continue to just tick over the way they are for a long time, maybe a bit smaller, but continuing. I would like that actually, but it doesn't seem particularly realistic.
3) Somehow a significant chunk of Chinese people become permanently involved in watching and playing BW. That would be a real boost that would last for quite some time. In my opinion, that's the last possible way to "save" BW in the sense that most fans would like. It seems possible, but not particularly easy. A Chinese pro team would help a lot.

Well, good luck us, I guess.

Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
September 26 2011 22:10 GMT
#44
On September 27 2011 04:01 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 03:59 Armathai wrote:
If Iccup or any other server could implement matchmaking into a launcher, BW would seriously see a revival. However I think the game might be too dated to create a function like that, not to mention to the coding difficulties.

It already exists.

However, it came out at the wrong time and far too late and promptly died.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112245


Wow I missed this entirely when it came out, golden find Harem.
To bad the project seems dead, I wonder if we can get it back alive.

Everyone here should consider checking the link harem put up out!

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Tadah
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 23:29:58
September 26 2011 23:22 GMT
#45
I think large sums of money poored into the foreign scene could go a long way in keeping it not only alive, but indeed prospering outside of Korea even. Whether it's sponsoring tournaments with all of what that might entail (just having a nice pricepool/hiring people to do casting/video editing and such to spruse things up) or creating a web portal where BW is the main attraction and isn't looked upon by the newer crowd as some antiquated cobweb infested game crumbling apart, is all equally good.

I wouldn't see any of those measures as keeping it alive artificially. What is that even supposed to mean, "artificially"? If people get hyped because a tournament has quite substantial winnings and decide, on that basis alone, to watch it, and the viewership figure rises as a result, does that make the rise in popularity artificial? Isn't thats what happening with SC2 right now? That scene is basically built on hype alone, not on any of its "own" merits. I've heard quite a few pro players trash-talk SC2 and yet they still play the game. Why? Could it be because of money per chance? Without money the defiler tourneys would probably never be held any longer, and... ? The same applies to the ISL's or any other tournament for that matter. Does that somehow invalidate them; does it undermine their legitimacy or decrease their spectating value, that if not for people sponsoring the events we wouldn't have them in the first place? Granted, whatever investments you make into the foreign scene won't be able to give it the nudge needed to overtake SC2 in viewership terms or the like. But, if you invest wisely, you could very well stabilize the BW scene and perhaps even create and upward slope as far as BW players/viewers/site visitors is concerned.

Far be it from me to tell you to spend your money and what to spend it on, but if creating a stable- if not growing BW scene outside of Korea is your objective then than I would instruct you to act as I would in your position. I would be waving a wad of cash infront of some programers and tell them to create a new BW client that included all of the best additional features that have been created and released by the community/blizzard over the years (zoom-in/out feature, supply/apm counter, matchmaking system, updated "helpful tips" guides, fpvod viewing, the ability to follow a unit by clicking its icon, built in streaming/recording capabilites, ability to rewind replays, the list goes and and on and on). And a BW version with HD resolution wouldn't be bad either :p I dont know how costly this would get though and whether or not you'd get any significant return on your investement, however I do know that this is what I would do.

Just don't listen to the pessimists around here trying to sell you on the "artificial" argument, BW is such a superior game over SC2 (imo) that I, like you, think old pros who've switched would be willing to play both side by side or even switch back fully, even if it would be a risky career move and pay less, if just for the chance to play the game I'm certain they hold to be the more enjoyable and rewarding one to play. As I said, challenging SC2 head on is proably foolish, but to increase the influx of new players by making it easier to get started and improving is nine tenths of getting an exponential curve started that would be the lynchpin to secure the future of the scene to ensure that the newer generation of gamers get to grow up in a world of e-sport, with BW as the flagship leading the way.

In conclusion, you just gotta take the leap man. Take it! For BW.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 03:32:35
September 27 2011 03:31 GMT
#46
On September 27 2011 04:46 Brad` wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On September 27 2011 03:02 Hawk wrote:[/B

Actually, I'm talking to a condescending random on the internet,


lol, talk about Pot calling the kettle black.

Maybe I'm missing the joke but Hawk is well known and liked here. He's hardly a random.
edit: i must have missed the joke.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 27 2011 05:19 GMT
#47
If you got a contract with ESPN, it'd be gravy
people would definitely watch it, too, if they didn't have to leave their couches and mcdonalds
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FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
September 27 2011 12:35 GMT
#48
On September 27 2011 00:14 luckylefty wrote:
I never played Brood War. From what I have heard from all the pro's/ people from BW was that it was a small scene anyway (foreigner wise). My question is why if it wasn't that big before, would it all of sudden become big? You can pump money into anything, but if the community isn't there then it won't matter.

Also where would you "find" money...


I can probably fork up a couple hundreds to get some tournaments started
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