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Ignorant prodigy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States385 Posts
September 14 2011 20:06 GMT
#21
On September 15 2011 04:17 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 03:51 Ignorant prodigy wrote:
Cheese

seriously… if you lose you won’t be too upset.. if you win you will be happy.. you may even get your opponent to rage instead.
Play some 3v3s or 4v4s… playing games on tilt will just make you more upset when you lose.

Cannon rush, two port banshee, 6 pool on small maps.


I don't like cheese. I like playing straight up, I take risks only when there is a clear opening where I can see it'll probably work.


i didn't say change you philosophy behind your game play. I was just making a suggestion to try and make the game more fun and less stressful for you..

I lol'd at your comment about taking a risk that will 'probably work'
If that were the case you wouldn't have lost 20 games in a row.. you're obviously doing something wrong or your assessment of what will 'probably work' is way off
http://www.twitch.tv/ignorantprodigy playing masters random with no hotkeys......big pimpin'
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
September 14 2011 20:07 GMT
#22
Stop beating yourself up.

This game is fun. Why would you play it if you're not having fun?
-TLO

If your goal is to get better, than you need to take steps to analyze your play properly and identify where your weak points are. Are you losing to army size/composition, timing attacks, or are there other factors?

I don't want to sit here and repeat what everyone says, but I will anyway. SC2 is easy to learn, but hard to master. Losing streaks happen. Take it as an oppurtunity to learn from the mistakes you make.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 14 2011 20:11 GMT
#23
If the game isn't fun for you then you need to stop playing.

You will not get better at a game if it doesn't bring you joy to play it. Without joy you wont care enough to get better.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
September 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#24
On September 15 2011 04:23 Yew wrote:
Sounds like things are looking... *sunglasses* Bleak

YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!



You sir just made me laugh, congrats
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
1a
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada36 Posts
September 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#25
On September 15 2011 04:00 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 03:51 Ignorant prodigy wrote:
Cheese


two port banshee


Two port banshee isn´t cheese.


AAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
hi
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
September 14 2011 20:34 GMT
#26
U sir, are depressed and I know u realize it urself as well.

Getting help (and I ain't saying this to offend u at all) may be good, but u ultimately have to find the thing that'll get ur life going again. Keep looking - don't give up - and in the meantime hang in there tight, stop beating urself up because there will be the light at the end of the tunnel - one can only sink so low before they hit the ground and bounce/jump up from there.

As for SC2, despite ur own claim u do not have the mechanics down.
I'd suggest watching the pros (GSL, etc) and learn from them.
Until then it's pointless continuing to play blind.

Why keep hitting a wall with a hammer when u can't see the nail?
(Unless u're just being destructive)
Good luck.
Come get some
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
September 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#27
Just play games you know you will lose (carrier rush etc.) and if you win laugh at the enemy, if you lose go oh lol that was fun.
Jaedong :3
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
September 14 2011 20:44 GMT
#28
On September 15 2011 05:34 LuciferSC wrote:
U sir, are depressed and I know u realize it urself as well.

Getting help (and I ain't saying this to offend u at all) may be good, but u ultimately have to find the thing that'll get ur life going again. Keep looking - don't give up - and in the meantime hang in there tight, stop beating urself up because there will be the light at the end of the tunnel - one can only sink so low before they hit the ground and bounce/jump up from there.

As for SC2, despite ur own claim u do not have the mechanics down.
I'd suggest watching the pros (GSL, etc) and learn from them.
Until then it's pointless continuing to play blind.

Why keep hitting a wall with a hammer when u can't see the nail?
(Unless u're just being destructive)
Good luck.


Thanks alot, I actually had a similar conversation with my dad...I guess I need to find a new goal...Losing weight was the last really big goal I had and after that I'm kinda left empty besides graduating and getting a job, and that's more depressing than fun tbh to me.

As for mechanics, what I meant was hotkeys etc, and I rarely get supply blocked. My macro isn't bad. I just don't know how to utilize it lately.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 14 2011 20:54 GMT
#29
Take a break, do some cheese, have some fun, don't give a shit, regain a good mental state, gg ready to go.
Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 21:09:15
September 14 2011 21:08 GMT
#30

What should I do? I still like the game, I've got the mechanics to play with all three races, it's just that my timings, my decisions and my planning sucks almost everytime. I just don't know what to do..


well it sounds like you need to improve and you are getting beat by players that are better than you,
if your timings,decisions and planning all "suck" maybe you shouldn't have been in diamond did you take a long break from sc2?
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
September 14 2011 21:20 GMT
#31
On September 15 2011 06:08 Sega92 wrote:
Show nested quote +

What should I do? I still like the game, I've got the mechanics to play with all three races, it's just that my timings, my decisions and my planning sucks almost everytime. I just don't know what to do..


well it sounds like you need to improve and you are getting beat by players that are better than you,
if your timings,decisions and planning all "suck" maybe you shouldn't have been in diamond did you take a long break from sc2?


I've switched races. Since retail, P for 2-2,5months (I got to Plat at most, that was a long time ago and I was terrible), then Z for another 3-4 months (got to diamond at most, around december), then I switched T, demoted to Plat, and got to diamond at most again. It just took a long streak of TvZs losses, which were on a day that people miraculously decided to play only zerg. And after that, less confidence, less caring, more despair and it kept going downhill.

I also don't play as much as I could. I watch streams and tourneys much more. I'm aware I'm not great, but I was able to beat these players that I lose right now that are way worse than me if I was playing my potential. It's also weird, when you lose games you match with lower players and they have much more tendancy to play randomly and it catches you offguard.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 14 2011 21:24 GMT
#32
5 rax off one base isn't cheese
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
September 14 2011 21:25 GMT
#33
It's my personal opinion that everyone should have something to be excited about with the work they do, since we'll be spending at least 8 hours of every weekday there. Looking for something that holds interest for u within ur work field may very be worth it. If that requires 1-2 extra education (ie. masters, etc) to do, I'd say go for it.

Well sounds like u got a pretty solid base to work with.
I recommended watching pro games 'cause even though u're looking at specific builds with any given match, after watching 10+ games, u'll begin to get a sense of what each build will do.
U need to get familiar with each popular opening builds (and there ain't that many per race), and shouldn't be too hard for u to pick it up since u already play all 3 races.

Also if u're having trouble with terrans playing tank pressure builds, u'll find plenty of examples of counter-builds on pro games.
Come get some
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