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[100% true][Code A Spoilers]Terran is underpowered

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fasdaf
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 19:15:42
September 01 2011 04:42 GMT
#1
Following the King of Marines' devastating loss in yet another final, it has become apparent that there can be only one reason Lee Jung Hoon is unable to capture that elusive gold. You might be thinking it, but this reason has nothing to do with the curse of Kong; after all, even potential Kongs (P)Stork and (T)Fantasy have won OSLs. No, the real reason must be because Terran is underpowered. After all, the one obvious constant in (T)MarineKing's losses (other than MarineKing himself) has been the fact that he plays Terran. By this point in time, with the repeated defeat of Terran players in major GSL tournament finals, it should be clear that Terran is underpowered and has been underpowered since the release of SC2 thirteen months ago. Since then, GOMTV has hosted nine major tournaments at the highest level (with a tenth underway) along with five Code A tournaments. Of the nine major tournaments already completed, a Terran has made the finals six times, yet each and every one of those six tournaments (including the first four in a row) saw a Terran lose the finals; for Code A, four out of five have had a Terran in the finals, with all four resulting in a Terran losing the finals. To truly understand how much the Terran race has suffered, we must understand the history of the GSL, from the first Open Seasons to the Code S tournament going on now.

Open Season 1
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At this time, the ignorant masses were convinced that Terran was overpowered, and players like (T)Maka were expected to go far if not win it all. The opening round proved promising, with the immortal (T)LiveForever defeating future many time champion and terror to Terran (Z)ZergBong (who understandably now uses the ID Nestea, as being Zerg is certainly far too embarrassing). Terran players (T)IntoTheRainBOw (who had seen the light when transitioning to SC2 and switched to Terran) and (T)Ensnare made it to the Ro8 without dropping a set, but ultimately, the extremely obvious overpowered nature of Zerg carried (Z)FruitDealer past LiveForever and IntoTheRainBOw to his wholly undeserving victory.


Open Season 2
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Most of the great Terrans of Season 1 returned, with the notable exception of LiveForever (who clearly had been so disgusted by his loss to FruitDealer that he decided to concentrate on his studies instead). Despite LiveForever's absence, humanity's forces were bolstered with the qualification of many legends and legends-to-be. Playing under the name of BoxeR, everyone's favorite silver collector made his first mark on the scene here. Curiously, the real Emperor himself took part as well, playing under the ID (T)Manofoneway. Joining him was fellow bonjwa (T)NaDa. Also making his first appearance was the best Brood War player ever to switch, MVP, a player so good he once beat (T)God in a game of Brood War. But even more importantly, this tournament marked our first encounter with the undisputed best player of all time, (T)TheBest. Unfortunately, even being the best was not enough to overcome Nestea's built-in advantages, causing TheBest to suffer an ignominious 0-2 defeat in the first round. While the Emperor was demolished by NesTea, "BoxeR" was able to sweep past FruitDealer and HopeTorture into the finals. It was here that he would first make his name as a silver collector, as without LiveForever there to beat NesTea, MarineKing was unable to become Optimus Prime.


Open Season 3
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It was at the final open tournament that (T)Jinro made his debut, representing the hopes of non-Korean Terrans everywhere. But even more importantly (sorry TL, but it's true), the greatest macro player of all time, Prime's macro terran, (T)BitByBit made his first GSL appearance in what would be a short but brilliant career. The great BitByBit unleashed his extensive arsenal of aggressive play upon the GSL field, sweeping through (Z)HayprO and (Z)NewDawn before meeting season one champ Fruitdealer in the round of 16. Alas, even his great play was insufficient to beat FruitDealer, preventing him from acquiring Code S status. Even as MarineKing and Jinro were eliminated by the overpowered Protoss (P)MC, hope remained, as the great (T)Rain was able to refine the brilliance of BitByBit and crush NesTea. Yet upon reaching the finals, he abandoned the glorious way of BitByBit, resulting in Terran once more falling at the final stage.


Code S January
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The first Code S season saw the return of LiveForever, but he would prove surprisingly mortal in the group stages (but not to (Z)Leenock). Eliminating the likes of MC and (T)IdrA, Jinro would again make it to the Ro4, losing this time to MarineKing. With the stage set for MarineKing to deliver a glorious victory to Terran, he would again fall short in the finals, collecting his second silver and being the fourth consecutive Terran to lose in the finals. In the Up and Down matches, disaster would strike; Maka, (T)Polt, and Rain were demoted (though Polt would receive LiveForever's (Leenock's) vacated spot).

Code S March
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This would be the first GSL not to feature a Terran in the finals with no Terran surviving the Ro8, showing us how OP Protoss and Zerg were at the time. Again the Up and Down matches would prove unfavorable, with MVP, (T)Hyperdub, BoxeR, and TheBest being demoted.


World Cup
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With a field of just 16 players, this would be the perfect chance for MarineKing to finally follow in the footsteps of Fantasy. Despite being able to eliminate MC in the Ro4, MarineKing again proved to be powerless in the finals.


Code S May
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Despite a heroic effort by (T)sC, no Terran made the finals as in the previous Code S. Unfortunately for sC, the imbalance of Crossfire SE proved decisive in a deciding match against NesTea in the Ro4. In the Up and Down matches, RainbOw, (T)Lyn, and Jinro would fall to Code A, while highly successful Slayers Terrans (T)MMA and (T)Ryung would fail to achieve promotion.


Super Tournament
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The Super Tournament saw the resurgence of greats like Maka and TheBest, who made it to the Ro16. Meanwhile, the rising stars of Slayers Ryung and MMA met each other in the Ro8, and MarineKing appeared poised to have another shot at gold before succumbing to MMA, giving away a 2-0 lead. A rising star of GSTL who narrowly missed promotion the previous season, MMA's victory in the finals seemed certain, but he was surprisingly swept out of the finals, the sixth Terran to lose in the finals.


Code S July
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This GSL saw the departure of a Terran hero before it even started, with Rain announcing his departure from TSL and GSL. Continuing the trend of a Terran inability to reach the Code S finals, two Zergs faced off for the title. The Up and Down matches continued the trend of proving disastrous for the Terran greats, as MarineKing and sC were demoted.


Code S August
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While this tournament is not yet complete, I believe that the loser of the finals will almost certainly be Terran.


Code A
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The loser of every single Code A except July has been Terran, with the likes of (T)Excrement, (T)SuperNoVa, and MVP unable to win Code A. In fact, in the most recent Code A, MarineKing again lost in the finals.


With this plethora of evidence showing the continuing plight of the Terran race, it should be obvious that if MarineKing wants to follow in Stork's footsteps and win a gold after collecting a good number of silvers, he should return to his roots and do the same thing Stork did: play Protoss. With the power of Protoss on his side, he would be able to immediately grab his first gold.

However, this is not the ideal solution, as Terran needs a buff sooner or later. After all, a real balanced game should see about 44.8% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding), which has yet to happen for GSL. One way to have this buff occur is for GOMTV to change to a more balanced map pool, potentially by porting over good maps from Brood War like Neo Arkanoid, which looks particularly promising.

Edit: I originally claimed that a balanced game has 45.6% of Starleagues won by Terran instead of 44.8% as is correct. Do note that the percentages for a balanced game are approximate, and if all goes well, the perfect win rate for Terran should go up soon.

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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
September 01 2011 04:46 GMT
#2
You're confusing power of races with power of the Kkong line.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
September 01 2011 04:48 GMT
#3
Your logic is flawless. I can't believe I never noticed any of this before!
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
Xation
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 04:54:06
September 01 2011 04:53 GMT
#4
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 01 2011 04:55 GMT
#5
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote




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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
September 01 2011 04:57 GMT
#6
On September 01 2011 13:46 mizU wrote:
You're confusing power of races with power of the Kkong line.

Kong Logic > All Logic

Your argument is invalid.
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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
September 01 2011 05:08 GMT
#7
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


You just got trolled.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
E-Coffee
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada519 Posts
September 01 2011 05:20 GMT
#8
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote

omg too good ^_^
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 01 2011 05:20 GMT
#9
On September 01 2011 13:57 kOre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 13:46 mizU wrote:
You're confusing power of races with power of the Kkong line.

Kong Logic > All Logic

Your argument is invalid.

ahhh, its only a matter of time until the true kong shows up to take his rightful place as second...sadly this will be rather difficult as he would need to take 1st in a qualifier to do so >.>
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 05:25:23
September 01 2011 05:23 GMT
#10
On September 01 2011 13:46 mizU wrote:
You're confusing power of races with power of the Kkong line.


ha the truth has been spoken.

and all the kongs that escaped the kongline had to beat other kongs.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 01 2011 05:31 GMT
#11
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote

I'm face palming so hard right now....

Good post op
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 01 2011 05:43 GMT
#12
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


Obvious troll

Is not obvious to Xation.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Haegr9599
Profile Joined April 2011
United States210 Posts
September 01 2011 05:43 GMT
#13
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


i actually physically hit my face with my hand as i read this lololol

nicely done OP, although obviously MKP cant win anything because he is the next Yell0w... the original MKP lol

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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 01 2011 05:43 GMT
#14
On September 01 2011 14:20 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 13:57 kOre wrote:
On September 01 2011 13:46 mizU wrote:
You're confusing power of races with power of the Kkong line.

Kong Logic > All Logic

Your argument is invalid.

ahhh, its only a matter of time until the true kong shows up to take his rightful place as second...sadly this will be rather difficult as he would need to take 1st in a qualifier to do so >.>

Maybe he can get 2nd at an MLG and skip the whole Code A nonsense.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 01 2011 05:57 GMT
#15
My god. How could I have been so blind to the truth? I double checked your claims and you're absolutely right. Terran has either lost in every GSL season or failed to even make it to the finals.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 01 2011 06:00 GMT
#16
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


The blog post was funny, but this really takes the cake. My god, I can't stop laughing. I need to go get a drink.

I rate this blog post 5 out of 5 GSL Terran champions for a truly entertaining reply <3
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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SecondChance
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia603 Posts
September 01 2011 06:11 GMT
#17
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


A troll within a troll.

T R O L L C E P T I O N
I see the want to in your eyes.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 01 2011 06:16 GMT
#18
On September 01 2011 14:43 LAN-f34r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


Obvious troll

Is not obvious to Xation.


i wouldn't be so sure about that
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
September 01 2011 06:19 GMT
#19
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


I wonder... How do people like this "survive" on the internet? :p.


Very ncie OP .
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 01 2011 07:06 GMT
#20
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote

hehe, I have to agree with everyone else. You got trolled hardcore by the OP

@OP I agree 100%. Terran is UP, need buffs pronto otherwise people will jump to the OP race P.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
September 01 2011 07:13 GMT
#21
5/5. awesome blog.
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bEwArE
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom121 Posts
September 01 2011 07:20 GMT
#22
You have enlightened me, spread the word Terran UP
IMMVP #1 Terran
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 08:00:20
September 01 2011 07:22 GMT
#23
I'm glad to see people finally realizing that Terran needs buffs! 1/1/1 is completely counter able by just about anything including a fast expo against a terran that all-ins. Don't even get me started on BFH, they just about suck now and they're still nerfing them. Zerg can just make drones over and over again while you keep losing 100 mineral hellions trying to kill 2 drones at a time because they're not dumb and they keep their drones mining instead of lining them up.(this happens a lot in the GSL, and yet people wonder why zergs always lose to it.). Then somehow they just make Broodlords and a thousand banelings while you're still trying to make your third tank and expo, even though you've been defending his muta harass like a pro all game long. That reminds me, muta harass needs a nerf because they can just kill your stuff and run away. It's like, i'll try to build 3 or 4 missile turrets but they just come in and one shot them. Then I stim marines and the mutas run away without losing any lives. If you go mutas as zerg you have no excuse for losing. You just have to attack the turrets and kill SCVs, then you win because he cant have any units and you'll have the entire map to yourself.
And then vs Terran it's the worst. Terran just has no way to defend a Terran BFH drop, they just clean up all the scvs and run away. Then you're left with 2 marines and a tank, and somehow he's got 10 banshees in your base! How the heck are you supposed to have built an engineering bay when he killed all your SCVs because you were out on the field trying to be cautious and attack at the same time? Terran is just overpowered.
SecondChance
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia603 Posts
September 01 2011 07:52 GMT
#24
On September 01 2011 16:22 Roe wrote:
I'm glad to see people finally realizing that Terran needs buffs! 1/1/1 is completely counter able by just about anything including a fast expo against a terran that all-ins. Don't even get me started on BFH, they just about suck now and they're still nerfing them. Zerg can just make drones over and over again while you keep losing 100 mineral hellions trying to kill 2 drones at a time because they're not dumb and they keep their drones mining instead of lining them up.(this happens a lot in the GSL, and yet people wonder why zergs always lose to it.). Then somehow they just make Broodlords and a thousand banelings while you're still trying to make your third tank and expo, even though you've been defending his muta harass like a pro all game long. That reminds me, muta harass needs a nerf because they can just kill your stuff and run away. It's like, i'll try to build 3 or 4 missile turrets but they just come in and one shot them. Then I stim marines and the mutas run away without losing any lives. If you go mutas as zerg you have no excuse for losing. You just have to attack the turrets and kill SCVs, then you win because he cant have any units and you'll have the entire map to yourself.
And then vs Terran it's the worst. Terran just has no way to defend a Terran BFH drop, they just clean up all the scvs and run away. Then you're left with 2 marines and a tank, and somehow he's got 10 banshees in your base! How the heck are you supposed to have built an engineering bay when he killed all your hellions because you were out on the field trying to be cautious and attack at the same time? Terran is just overpowered.


On September 01 2011 16:59 Xation wrote:

Omg you are so wrong in so many ways. Wrong wrong wong! Aaaah!


I see the want to in your eyes.
DH_Remorse
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark139 Posts
September 01 2011 08:05 GMT
#25
...this is kinda bs tho ? I mean did you see Huk vs Mvp ? The builf Mvp did in the first 2 games , was a build that I cant think of a counter to , MAYBE blink-stalker all-in , but its a slim chance... any race that has a build with such a high sucsess rate cannot be considered overall "up". ::
So what ,i just walk up to security and go: "Whats up bitches i'm huk!" or what... - HuK
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
September 01 2011 09:19 GMT
#26
Reapers should have 100% hp buff, stim and mines.
oh, hai
colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
September 01 2011 09:58 GMT
#27
i really think they need to give marines +1 armor and make each marine cost .5 food, furthermore you should be able to build battlecruisers with a reactor, and cut the gas cost to 100. i think that would come at least somewhat closer to closing this obviously horrible gap. i cant believe anyone would ever pick terran as a starting race
For the Emperor!
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 01 2011 10:01 GMT
#28
On September 01 2011 18:58 colingrad wrote:
i really think they need to give marines +1 armor and make each marine cost .5 food, furthermore you should be able to build battlecruisers with a reactor, and cut the gas cost to 100. i think that would come at least somewhat closer to closing this obviously horrible gap. i cant believe anyone would ever pick terran as a starting race

well you're not even trying now
fasdaf
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
138 Posts
September 01 2011 19:23 GMT
#29
On September 01 2011 18:58 colingrad wrote:
i really think they need to give marines +1 armor and make each marine cost .5 food, furthermore you should be able to build battlecruisers with a reactor, and cut the gas cost to 100. i think that would come at least somewhat closer to closing this obviously horrible gap. i cant believe anyone would ever pick terran as a starting race

Remember, the ideal is a balanced game where all the races have a chance to win, with Terran first among equals. Instead of focusing on buffs/nerfs, maps should be the real focus. Blizzard has already ported over Peaks of Baekdu, so they should port over Neo Arkanoid as I suggested. In fact, they may as well make it the only map for ladder and tournaments, as any SC2 version of it could and should have enough destructible rocks to fill an entire map pool. It's only missing watchtowers and gold bases, which are easy enough to add in.
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
September 01 2011 20:38 GMT
#30
On September 01 2011 13:53 Xation wrote:
Show nested quote +
After all, a real balanced game should see about 45.6% of top level Starleagues won by Terran, 21.1% won by Protoss, and 35.1% won by Zerg (percentages approximate due to rounding),


Why does Protoss have to have the lowest ratio won? Hmm... let's see.. How many Protosses have won GSL recently? Excuse me while I go make a blog about this.

I respond as such because this is simply outrageous. Terran is NOT and, to my knowledge, has NEVER been UP. From what I hear from people it is, in fact, OP. I'm sorry, but I have to argue that you are wrong. Did you see MC get completely wrecked by the 1/1/1 multiple times? HuK got dominated by MVP through 2 terran all-ins? (albeit the fact that HuK was jetlagged). Even Blizzard themselves have said that Terran is too versatile.
EDIT: threw in a quote


Yo Xation, I'mma let you finish, but fasdaf had one of the greatest posts of all time.

/kanye

fuckin amazing OP
IMMvp #1 :)
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
September 01 2011 20:57 GMT
#31
On September 01 2011 16:22 Roe wrote:
I'm glad to see people finally realizing that Terran needs buffs! 1/1/1 is completely counter able by just about anything including a fast expo against a terran that all-ins. Don't even get me started on BFH, they just about suck now and they're still nerfing them. Zerg can just make drones over and over again while you keep losing 100 mineral hellions trying to kill 2 drones at a time because they're not dumb and they keep their drones mining instead of lining them up.(this happens a lot in the GSL, and yet people wonder why zergs always lose to it.). Then somehow they just make Broodlords and a thousand banelings while you're still trying to make your third tank and expo, even though you've been defending his muta harass like a pro all game long. That reminds me, muta harass needs a nerf because they can just kill your stuff and run away. It's like, i'll try to build 3 or 4 missile turrets but they just come in and one shot them. Then I stim marines and the mutas run away without losing any lives. If you go mutas as zerg you have no excuse for losing. You just have to attack the turrets and kill SCVs, then you win because he cant have any units and you'll have the entire map to yourself.
And then vs Terran it's the worst. Terran just has no way to defend a Terran BFH drop, they just clean up all the scvs and run away. Then you're left with 2 marines and a tank, and somehow he's got 10 banshees in your base! How the heck are you supposed to have built an engineering bay when he killed all your SCVs because you were out on the field trying to be cautious and attack at the same time? Terran is just overpowered.


Lol. It's called being out-macroed/microed.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
September 02 2011 00:59 GMT
#32
err I dont really understand any of the humour in this at all. but ok
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