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The Woes of Placing 2nd in the GSL [Spoilers]

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Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 08:48:04
August 17 2011 16:03 GMT
#1
UPDATE: Marineking gets second place in Code A finals. Who knows if he will make it out of his up/down matches...


Following upon last night's Code S results, I believe we can now identify a pattern of troubles that appear to set in directly following a second place finish in the Global Starcraft 2 League:


GSL Open Season 1 - 2nd Place Finisher:

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Star Tale Rainbow

a.k.a. "Star Tale Hope/Torture"
a.k.a. "the only Korean with a losing record in the NASL"

Since coming in 2nd, Rainbow has suffered a slow and steady decline. Most recently he was eliminated from the GSL losing in the first round of Code A. He has lost every televised match he has played in since March 22nd.

While other 2nd place finishers have suffered much swifter and more painful declines, his tribulations can always be viewed as the first inklings of a "2nd place curse."



GSL Open Season 2 - 2nd Place Finisher:

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MarineKingPrime

a.k.a. "Foxer (Fake Boxer)"
a.k.a. "the Yellow of Starcraft 2"

Oh poor, poor MarkineKing! Almost as famous for his Marine micro as he is for his perennial 2nd place finishes. Not only was he the first to be robbed of a championship by the mighty NesTea, he is one of the worst players in the GSTL with a 1-6 record -- consistently disappointing his teammates on Prime.

No one has tried harder than MarineKing to break the 2nd place curse. Thus far a solution continues to allude him.



GSL Open Season 3 - 2nd Place Finisher:

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FnaticRain

a.k.a. "TSL Rain"
a.k.a. "Most mediocre player in the GSL"

The curse was already clear by the time Rain made it to the finals only to lose to the Obama-toss oGsMC. Rain has achieved a level of infamy at the GSL that can only be rivaled by IdrA. First, Rain is the only player to end up apologizing to the SC2 community at large for cheesing his way to the GSL finals. Second, he is the only player to ever have been banned from the GSL for not attending the opening ceremonies for GSL July.

Rain, broken under the pressure of the curse, has since joined Fnatic and fled to the United States in hopes of avoiding the curse's reach. It is still too early to judge if his gambit will be successful.



GSL January Code S and GSL World Championship - 2nd Place Finisher:

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MarineKingPrime

a.k.a. "Mr. 2nd Place"

No matter how much you fight it MarineKing, the curse only pulls you down deeper! I honestly feel terrible for MarineKing. He is either being eliminated by the best players on earth or losing to scrubs. Since placing 2nd in two more GSL tournaments, MarineKing place last in the group stages of GSL July, lost all of his up/down matches, and was promptly booted down to Code A.

While he is showing promising signs of a comeback in GSL August, could it all just be a cruel cosmic joke ending with him placing 2nd in Code A - only one win away from his ticket back into Code S?



GSL January Code S May - 2nd Place Finisher:

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oGsInCa

a.k.a. "Biggest choke in a GSL finals"

InCa may be the saddest sob story on this list. His fall from glory was the fastest and fiercest seen that we have so far witnessed. After only losing one game in the group stage of GSL InCa waged an undefeated path of destruction all the way up to the finals. But oh how quickly such a streak will come to and end when your opponent is IMNesTea. InCa first warning was when his DT opener didn't work in game 1 of the finals. His last three warnings were when his DT opener didn't work in games 2 through 4.

Unfortunately, not only will InCa forever live in shame of his performance against NesTea, he has now distinguished himself as the fastest player to fall from the Code S finals to Code B qualifiers. He lost his group stage in July, lost his up/down matches and was eliminated from the GSL in Ro32 Code A August.



GSL January Code S July - 2nd Place Finisher:

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IMLosira

a.k.a. "Has never lost to a beta-build-bunker-rush except for that last one"

Why Losira! Why! You were our best hope at breaking the 2nd place curse. You even got second pick during the group selection process! No one could have predicted these results. LiquidBets had you as the favorite 11 to 1!

But no your just get cheesed out at the group stages. Is this the start of the downfall of one of the greatest Zergs of our time? I certainly hope not! But only time will tell how you do in your up/down matches...



And so GSL participants - past, present and future - let this be a warning to you. If you practice hard enough, develop your skills long enough and are lucky enough to make it to the FINALS of the Global Starcraft 2 League --- YOU BETTER PLAY TO WIN!

Or risk suffering the same fate as the second place finishers that came before you...





****
"En taro adun, Executor."
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
August 17 2011 16:05 GMT
#2
On a lighter note, Star Tale Rainbow has been VERY successful in the GF department:

[image loading]
"En taro adun, Executor."
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 16:14:00
August 17 2011 16:12 GMT
#3
MarineKing didn't get 2nd place in the Super Tournament. MMA did. MKP got 2nd in the World Championship.

I don't follow the NA scene too much, but I wouldn't say that Rain's results have been less than promising. He did very well at MLG Anaheim.
Other than that - good job ^^

EDIT: You could probably write something about MMA falling down to code b after getting second place in the ST. Although he did qualify for code s a short time afterwards
What a player
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
August 17 2011 17:10 GMT
#4
What about July? Didn't he come 2nd too?
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Schmieds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States312 Posts
August 17 2011 17:24 GMT
#5
Well, overall play has improved by miles since the open seasons. Players like Maka, Check, and Rainbow are hardly relevant Korea-wise.
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Pengtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
207 Posts
August 17 2011 17:36 GMT
#6
On August 18 2011 02:10 quirinus wrote:
What about July? Didn't he come 2nd too?


I think the point is that July was not cursed after second place so OP sneakily left him out
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
August 17 2011 17:37 GMT
#7
But MKP did win that Chinese tournament recently, so he's probably doing about the best out of all of them.
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 17:54:29
August 17 2011 17:47 GMT
#8
Um... Getting 4th place at MLG anaheim crushing through the open bracket and MMA and Ret and only falling in one of the most epic TvT's of all time vs. The Emperor himself is a result that you call "less than promising" for rain? Lol

Despite that little thing... This post is very nice... and true TT MKP HWAITINGGGGG
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
August 17 2011 18:11 GMT
#9
On August 18 2011 01:05 Chriscras wrote:
On a lighter note, Star Tale Rainbow has been VERY successful in the GF department:

[image loading]


It's creepy that you screenshotted this, saved it in your folder, and remembered that you had it.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
August 17 2011 18:17 GMT
#10
On August 18 2011 03:11 Jinsho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 01:05 Chriscras wrote:
On a lighter note, Star Tale Rainbow has been VERY successful in the GF department:

[image loading]


It's creepy that you screenshotted this, saved it in your folder, and remembered that you had it.


I'm pretty sure I've seen some SS like this and similar discussion about Rainbow's GF before...

So all he had to do is remember that 'Rainbow's GF is hot' and find the thread or whatever.
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
August 17 2011 18:33 GMT
#11
Bit of an overreaction. There is no curse.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 17 2011 18:53 GMT
#12
On August 18 2011 03:11 Jinsho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 01:05 Chriscras wrote:
On a lighter note, Star Tale Rainbow has been VERY successful in the GF department:

[image loading]


It's creepy that you screenshotted this, saved it in your folder, and remembered that you had it.

It was posted in the tournament thread and there was about a 4 page discussion on her. Not that creepy or surprising since I was there reading the thread at the time

Well I enjoyed reading the blog and it made me have a one person pity party for everyone thats been blown away in the finals. Except Inca. Rain is okay to me cos he apologized but thats pretty old news anyway. Inca however I hate for making it to the finals and then being destroyed.

I would argue that that was the most disappointing finals out of all of GSLs cursed sets.
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
August 17 2011 18:54 GMT
#13
Nice Writeup dude enjoyed the read

this picture melted my heart of rainbow's gf its not that hard to find the thread if you have a nice memory in your brain :< i memorized the page.

[image loading]
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 19:30:17
August 17 2011 19:28 GMT
#14
On August 18 2011 03:33 hyptonic wrote:
Bit of an overreaction. There is no curse.


Well obviously. Curses don't exist.

But it's a noticeable trend and I wouldn't really say it's an overreaction. Flavor of the month players have been quite common in SC2 (even without actually reaching the finals / ending 2nd).
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 19:36 GMT
#15
On August 18 2011 03:54 Mawi wrote:
Nice Writeup dude enjoyed the read

this picture melted my heart of rainbow's gf its not that hard to find the thread if you have a nice memory in your brain :< i memorized the page.

[image loading]

lol MKP

also that face looks a little scary to me
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#16
Annoyed at your description that Rain's results have been "less than promising." MLG Anaheim completely indicated otherwise...
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
August 18 2011 02:55 GMT
#17
On August 18 2011 01:05 Chriscras wrote:
On a lighter note, Star Tale Rainbow has been VERY successful in the GF department:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


It's quite possible that he's stuck at second base.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 18 2011 03:18 GMT
#18
I think runner ups at the superbowl had similar statistics.
KgKris
Profile Joined April 2011
United States164 Posts
August 18 2011 19:42 GMT
#19
Everyone wants to make a name for themselves by taking out the best players from previous seasons.
"The spider comes."
Kid-Fox
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada400 Posts
August 18 2011 20:39 GMT
#20
On August 18 2011 04:36 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 03:54 Mawi wrote:
Nice Writeup dude enjoyed the read

this picture melted my heart of rainbow's gf its not that hard to find the thread if you have a nice memory in your brain :< i memorized the page.

[image loading]

lol MKP

also that face looks a little scary to me


that Kim Gayoung? She was on rainbow's stream once, and the viewers went from like 800 to 2200 after 15 minutes...
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