[BW]I have beaten a Korean!!! - Page 2

On July 31 2011 21:08 SaRrAceN wrote:
@Kwark: Arent you like A- level ? At that level im sure there is not much difference but I am telling you there is a huge difference around the D+ level.

I usually ban koreans from my games but on occasion I do let them in only to end up regretting it and raging, calling them "faggots" etc(only koreans get me to rage this hard) because their play is just sooooo much better and they just overwhelm me with vastly superior play.

I remember playing one last season or so. It was a ZvP(me zerg). He opens FE and gets corsairs. I opened with some 5 hatch variation and this korean executes perfect zealot timing attacks to keep me unbalanced, only to follow up with his corsairs to start killing my lords. He masses them slowly until he has like 5 or 6 at which point, even with hydras, I still cant stop him from killing my overlords. He just darts in, kill ols, then leave before hydras come. He specifically targeted my 3rd later on and then follows up with a DT and I cant do shit. When I finally repelled it and tried to counter with a sizable Hydra army, this guy already spammed gates and units putting the game at 130 pop(Him) to something like 70 pop(me). That was GG.
This korean was like 7-8 D.

You'd laugh your ass off at a non-korean trying this shit at the D+/C- level. They do it very stupidly. Their corsairs are usually late, and sometimes even when they are early, they mass at their base and send them out after they have like 4 of them. This is far easier to deal with. A korean would send the first one out to be a pain in your ass and he'd never stop them from moving all the while he is spamming gates and adding corsairs 1 by 1 while keeping them very busy. Non-koreans just cant do this at low levels but koreans do this all the time.

I am telling you guys. There is a difference.

On July 31 2011 21:08 SaRrAceN wrote:
@Kwark: Arent you like A- level ? At that level im sure there is not much difference but I am telling you there is a huge difference around the D+ level.

I usually ban koreans from my games but on occasion I do let them in only to end up regretting it and raging, calling them "faggots" etc(only koreans get me to rage this hard) because their play is just sooooo much better and they just overwhelm me with vastly superior play.

I remember playing one last season or so. It was a ZvP(me zerg). He opens FE and gets corsairs. I opened with some 5 hatch variation and this korean executes perfect zealot timing attacks to keep me unbalanced, only to follow up with his corsairs to start killing my lords. He masses them slowly until he has like 5 or 6 at which point, even with hydras, I still cant stop him from killing my overlords. He just darts in, kill ols, then leave before hydras come. He specifically targeted my 3rd later on and then follows up with a DT and I cant do shit. When I finally repelled it and tried to counter with a sizable Hydra army, this guy already spammed gates and units putting the game at 130 pop(Him) to something like 70 pop(me). That was GG.
This korean was like 7-8 D.

You'd laugh your ass off at a non-korean trying this shit at the D+/C- level. They do it very stupidly. Their corsairs are usually late, and sometimes even when they are early, they mass at their base and send them out after they have like 4 of them. This is far easier to deal with. A korean would send the first one out to be a pain in your ass and he'd never stop them from moving all the while he is spamming gates and adding corsairs 1 by 1 while keeping them very busy. Non-koreans just cant do this at low levels but koreans do this all the time.

I am telling you guys. There is a difference.

On July 31 2011 23:06 Kiante wrote:

kwark has A- level PvT on longius(read: 10/15 or bulldog. i can never remember which one, i THINK 10/15)

On July 31 2011 20:39 Lumire wrote:

The explanation is that its totally not true and the whole "non-korean rank inflation" thing is a total myth, as a matter of fact, i have much better winrates vs koreans because they play much more standard and more "correct" hence all the timings and game flow goes much more as planned as opposed to foreigners who play ultra cheesy or use really outdated builds. Most people who say that usually use pretty awful builds which koreans are much better at punishing for some reason.

Also a LOT of koreans are really harassment based or rely on a super tight timing attack doing tons of damage and have horrible multitasking, so survive the first 9 min and they cant macro so you basically win.
One thing that is true is that the koreans have like 20x better micro then foreigners though...

On July 31 2011 23:06 Kiante wrote:

kwark has A- level PvT on longius(read: 10/15 or bulldog. i can never remember which one, i THINK 10/15)

On July 31 2011 20:30 KwarK wrote:
If D+ koreans are so much better than D+ foreigners then how come the D+ koreans aren't C- or the D+ foreigners aren't D? The ranks are assigned according to results, the only way two groups can have the same rank is to post the same results. Assuming they play each other, barring no hard time zone barriers, a D rank is a D rank. While I did notice some stylistic changes at the B+ level that isn't really likely to be relevant, a D+ is a casual user and their nationality is unlikely to impact how much/little they care about the game if they're at D+.

On August 01 2011 09:49 ]343[ wrote:
I think the reason D koreans are "stronger" is because most of them are smurfing / haven't played that many games on iccup...