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On July 30 2011 01:13 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:00 StorkHwaiting wrote:On July 29 2011 23:51 Knightlax wrote:
I kind of like the post [2 spots] above me. If I were in your shoes, I'd find a place to sit down with her and "tell her how you feel". That doesn't mean you tell her "I love you, I want to be w/ you, etc.", but what you do say is something like:
Listen, we've been friends for years but the truth is that I'm attracted to you. I've been here for 5 days and I'm kind of losing my sanity. In the past I've brought up the "relationship thing" and you weren't interested, so I've also spent a lot of time trying to keep it friends only. But that's not going to work for me. Spending just 5 days with you, in another country no less, is enough to frustrate every emotion I have. Not a smart move on my part. On one hand, I don't want to ruin our friendship, but on the other hand, I want a relationship that goes beyond being "just friends". I think it wiser to keep my sanity, even if that means scaling back my contact with you to next to nothing.
I wouldn't use that word-for-word because every situation is unique, but I think that gives you somethings to think about. Just make sure to:
1. Tell her how you feel (about her) and what you're feeling (about you)
2. Be willing to step away from the whole thing, and tell her you will
In all honesty, she probably wont respond the way you hope. There will probably be some part of her that says to herself "I don't need this right now" or "this is unfair of him". If anything, it will take some time for her to come around if she does come around at all. Make sure you don't get mad at her (though its okay if you're mad/frustrated in general). But whatever you do, don't keep doing what you've been doing, you will drive yourself insane, and no one wants to be in a relationship with an insane person. This is all wrong. You're assuming women respond to logic and reason and show empathy towards guys they aren't sleeping with/want to sleep with. That's probably why you ended your suggestion with the disclaimer that it probably won't work lol. He'd be a million times better off coming home with another drunk girl and fucking her brains out while his "best friend" has to listen to them go at it all night from the next room. Or, if he's in very good shape, he should make sure to come out of the shower and have the towel fall just as she turns to say hi. She will then be staring at his penis and chiseled muscles in the comfort of her own home. Instant sex. Or he should get drunk, walk naked into her room at night, and get into bed with her and start "cuddling" like he always does except this time with a raging boner jabbing into her ass through her jammies. Lastly, he could just walk into her room with his shirt off holding a 9" dildo in his left hand and his own dick in his right. Then stare right into her eyes and say "You are going to experience satisfaction now. One way or another." And then descend upon her with manic abandon. In general though, women tend to respond well to nudity and aggression. That's if you're fit and good looking at least. If not, rubber band a wad of hundred dollar bills around your dick and carry a suitcase full of more money in each hand. Open the suitcases if she's still being tepid. Do every single one of these suggestions, then your cell mate in jail can do them as well!
Live a little. Women love this stuff.
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So it's clear you've played a 45 minute macro game, the map is indefinitely split in half with tank lines drawn across the ridges. You know your minerals are running low and you've been throwing small harassments at her without any success. You're exhausted and can't find any opening despite countless scans and even sensor towers in place.
It's time my friend, for the all in. One can always do a late game all in, it's the last resort, it's the perfect play.
How can you execute this effectively? Well, you COULD run headstrong with your marauders stimming in and chucking frags blindly into the sky. But that of course, is a platinum level move, surely a man of your caliber could do something better than this:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mlzuW.png)
It takes a little more finesse after all, it's the doom drop that's your move. Hit her in the production facilities, put your feelings and marines right in front of her and it'll either be a success and she'll have to rebuild her base in your heart or you'll instead be cut short by her defensive turrets before you finish unloading - forcing you to gg and start a new game.
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Um wow, interesting posts and thread. I've been friend zoned at multiple points in my life and it never ends well. Eventually I learned to move on and only then did I find a real relationship. Although that post on making your friend into your girlfriend was very interesting, so perhaps you should try some of that stuff. I think at the very least you should screw the subtlety and just tell her how you feel. Just man up and be honest. If you do it correctly, you'll still remain friends with her if you fail, and achieve something more if she likes you back. At least that's how i would do it, still theory-crafting here.
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On July 29 2011 21:09 Hassybaby wrote:
Well there's always one idiot in each of these girl blogs. Glad that's out of the way
What I said may have been harsh but and I can see why you may be offended but 90% of girl blogs are like this. Everytime I read one of these I cringe at how some people here dont really get women at all. I just felt it had to be said. I dont know any of you personally but that doesnt mean I dont wish the best for you guys and seeing guy after guy fail at something so simple(yes getting pussy is simple) is heartbreaking. Were my words harsh ? Yes. Could I have said it better ? Perhaps, but it is truth. Many of you are doing the same thing without a clue as to why you're failing.
Hasserbaby you shouldnt call people who get more pussy than you "idiots" in girl blogs. Think me presumtuous by implying I get more than you ? Well....
On July 29 2011 21:09 Hassybaby wrote:
But if you've been best friends for years, you should be ok.
Uh ??? Virgins shouldnt be giving advice on girls.
On July 29 2011 21:09 Hassybaby wrote:
Not doing something is always worse, even if what you do is wrong. At least you know where you are then
Did you even read his blog ? You should already "know where he is"...again, this is why virgins should just stfu in girl blogs....Or is it that you lack basic comprehension ? And you want to call people idiots ?
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Wow I was in the same situation in grade 10.
Too be Honest, it's so hard breaking that fear.
Even if you kissed her, even if you did everything.
You're always going to have this fear of rejection.
I remeber taking the initiative and told her, I liked her to her face.
And yeah, Classic Friendzone.
Seriously you're best bet. If you truly wanna love her.
You just gotta throw everything out the window (you're feelings)
You gotta break the ice SUDDENLY.
I would do this
"listen I need to try something, I'm hoping for the best".
She will ask you what.
SIT DOWN, GRAB HER HANDS. AND KISS HER ON THE LIPS.
If you can do that, you have a solid chance at discussing you're feelings without fear.
If she is not into you, you're where I was  (exept i never kissed her)
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If i've offended any virgins here, then I sincerely apologize. There is nothing wrong with being a virgin just as there is nothing wrong with being say...an accountant. But tell me how would you feel if you are qualified in engineering and the accountant called you an idiot because of your
evaluation of a building or a bridge. The accountant doesnt know shit about the subject and should not engage someone with more knowledge in that arena in such a manner.
On July 30 2011 09:06 krndandaman wrote:
also, sorry to break it to you but not all guys have the same goal of merely having sex with the
girl they like. sex is a great thing but it should not be the main goal in a relationship with a
girl.
This doesnt apply here. The OP already cuddles and talks etc with this woman but he wants to take it to the next level. What do you think he is really talking about ? Be aware of this reality: you can cuddle and play puppy games all you like with a woman, but if you're not boning then its not a relationship, its a friendship. For all intents and purposes, his goal is sex, it does matter in this case.
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i dont cuddle with her, the thing i face is never seeming to have an opportunity to do anything physical (and maybe thats only because im a newb). my real question is how do you set up or do something physical? it always seems like we're positioned wrongly and if i move myself then it would be over-bearingly obvious. for example, sitting or standing very close to her feels very unnatural when you're smoking on a huuuuge balcony or sitting on a huuuuge couch where theres plenty of room for 6 people let alone being snug for 2.
so im looking for ways to get our bodies closer but in a natural way. this is what i mean by "escalation".
none of this generalised stuff about friend zone or bring home other women really applies to me. all i need to fuckin do is get close and sensual and itll work itself out already.
idk come on someone must know what do to
lets say you're smoking on a big balcony leaning over the wall with a girl, and you wanna get closer to her physically. what would you do to make a joke out of it so it doesnt seem like you're just randomly about to rape her?
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On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
i dont cuddle with her, the thing i face is never seeming to have an opportunity to do anything physical (and maybe thats only because im a newb). my real question is how do you set up or do something physical? it always seems like we're positioned wrongly and if i move myself then it would be over-bearingly obvious. for example, sitting or standing very close to her feels very unnatural when you're smoking on a huuuuge balcony or sitting on a huuuuge couch where theres plenty of room for 6 people let alone being snug for 2.
so im looking for ways to get our bodies closer but in a natural way. this is what i mean by "escalation".
none of this generalised stuff about friend zone or bring home other women really applies to me. all i need to fuckin do is get close and sensual and itll work itself out already.
idk come on someone must know what do to
She doesn't want to get close to you, and tbh based on your blog post I don't blame her. You sound like the classic creeper horndog. If a woman wants you to touch her she will give you multiple opportunities to do so. There is absolutely no need to "craft" the situation to allow you to get in some kind of pervert pawing.
She is giving you very clear body language that she doesn't want you to touch her. You should accept that and move on. Anything else would probably be considered a mild form of rape.
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dont be daft, i described her as quite traditional and passive in practice, meaning the guy has to make the move. shes not an american slut who drapes themselves over people, she has an potent and "ladylike" sense of what is "appropriate" behaviour, like many girls do, and you have to be quite delicate with her when she is not in the right mood. when she IS in the right mood she can get very saucy but thats no good when you dont know what to do about it!!!
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On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
so im looking for ways to get our bodies closer but in a natural way. this is what i mean by
"escalation".
You make it sound as if you're trying to con somebody. I dont this this is the right mental
approach.
On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
none of this generalised stuff about friend zone.......applies to me...
However if i recall:-
On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
i asked her to dance at the start of the evening and she said no i dont feel like it.
Then:-
On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
she "reluctantly" danced with this new guy three fucking times
Friend Zone.
On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
lets say you're smoking on a big balcony leaning over the wall with a girl, and you wanna get closer to her physically. what would you do to make a joke out of it so it doesnt seem like you're just randomly about to rape her?
This sounds so creepy again, like you're trying to con somebody or steal something. Things like this you do without thinking. Do you think any young couple actually strategize over simple things like hugs and shit ? Its just part of the deal like breathing, you dont think about it. If something like a mere hug or touching her hair are focal points in your dealing with any woman then im sorry to say it again.....Friend Zone.
On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
she has an potent and "ladylike" sense of what is "appropriate" behaviour, like many girls do
I dont know this woman but I hope you really aren't giving her more credit than she deserves.
Remember this always, no matter how "ladylike" a woman is she still wants to be fucked senseless by a 9 inch cock. She is a woman with womanly desires regardless of how she carries herself.
On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
idk come on someone must know what do to
Try this thread.
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On July 30 2011 11:19 FFGenerations wrote:
dont be daft, i described her as quite traditional and passive in practice, meaning the guy has to make the move. shes not an american slut who drapes themselves over people, she has an potent and "ladylike" sense of what is "appropriate" behaviour, like many girls do, and you have to be quite delicate with her when she is not in the right mood. when she IS in the right mood she can get very saucy but thats no good when you dont know what to do about it!!!
My god man. This friend of yours will soon pass out from lack of oxygen if you keep raising her pedestal so high.
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Go! Just make a move! Just kiss her, you don't have to be sitting down or anything, just do it!
It's not the end of the world if she doesn't like you. Not every girl you like will like you back. Just make sure you have a place to stay in case worse goes to worst and she kicks you out.
Do you really want to have regrets?
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On July 30 2011 11:06 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 11:04 FFGenerations wrote:
i dont cuddle with her, the thing i face is never seeming to have an opportunity to do anything physical (and maybe thats only because im a newb). my real question is how do you set up or do something physical? it always seems like we're positioned wrongly and if i move myself then it would be over-bearingly obvious. for example, sitting or standing very close to her feels very unnatural when you're smoking on a huuuuge balcony or sitting on a huuuuge couch where theres plenty of room for 6 people let alone being snug for 2.
so im looking for ways to get our bodies closer but in a natural way. this is what i mean by "escalation".
none of this generalised stuff about friend zone or bring home other women really applies to me. all i need to fuckin do is get close and sensual and itll work itself out already.
idk come on someone must know what do to She doesn't want to get close to you, and tbh based on your blog post I don't blame her. You sound like the classic creeper horndog. If a woman wants you to touch her she will give you multiple opportunities to do so. There is absolutely no need to "craft" the situation to allow you to get in some kind of pervert pawing. She is giving you very clear body language that she doesn't want you to touch her. You should accept that and move on. Anything else would probably be considered a mild form of rape.
I definitely agree with StorkHwaiting. You definitely come off a bit creepy. I'm just curious why do you want her to have physical attractions to you so much? Do you just want to have sex with her or you actually want a long lasting relationship? If you want the latter, I definitely would wait until the right time... which is definitely not now. Long-termed friends aren't meant to have a relationship.. until the age of 30+ when both are single and realized what they've been looking for in their life partner is right next to them.
If you want to know if she has feelings for you and want to touch her at the same time, how about try riding the subway/bus with her at night? Sit next to her and pretend to fall asleep on her shoulder. She'll most likely tell you to wake up but be persistent and just keep your head on her shoulder and smile. If she freaks out.. then well just say you're not yourself atm, still being able to remain your friendship. If she doesn't then she definitely have some feelings for you.. Just crafting a possible situation that will not put you in a weird situation.
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On July 30 2011 12:39 JiSu wrote:
If you want to know if she has feelings for you and want to touch her at the same time, how about try riding the subway/bus with her at night? Sit next to her and pretend to fall asleep on her shoulder.
*Sigh* This is why you guys are failing so hard. Women want men....MEN. MEN do not "pretend" to fall asleep on a woman to gauge her feelings. Men take the initiative and find out directly. MEN ask. MEN go all in and say to this woman EXACTLY why he wants her. It doesnt have to be in an overly serious tone, you can mix a little humor in there and some sincere flattery but be direct. If you think she is sexy tell her! If she drives your hormones wild, TELL HER!!(yes you can tell women this and depending on how you say it you can even get a blush from her.) Look her directly in her eyes when you're engaging her. Don't stutter or otherwise do anything can communicate your self-doubt/lack of confidence.
This is what it means to be a man. Women dont find cheap approaches to cop a feel here or there cute. In fact many will be repulsed by it. Women respond more positively to a guy who isnt afraid to take control. BE A MAN!
Edit :-
Were you trolling with that second paragraph JiSu ? lol
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On July 30 2011 13:05 SaRrAceN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 12:39 JiSu wrote:
If you want to know if she has feelings for you and want to touch her at the same time, how about try riding the subway/bus with her at night? Sit next to her and pretend to fall asleep on her shoulder.
*Sigh* This is why you guys are failing so hard. Women want men....MEN. MEN do not "pretend" to fall asleep on a woman to gauge her feelings. Men take the initiative and find out directly. MEN ask. MEN go all in and say to this woman EXACTLY why he wants her. It doesnt have to be in an overly serious tone, you can mix a little humor in there and some sincere flattery but be direct. If you think she is sexy tell her! If she drives your hormones wild, TELL HER!!(yes you can tell women this and depending on how you say it you can even get a blush from her.) Look her directly in her eyes when you're engaging her. Don't stutter or otherwise do anything can communicate your self-doubt/lack of confidence. This is what it means to be a man. Women dont find cheap approaches to cop a feel here or there cute. In fact many will be repulsed by it. Women respond more positively to a guy who isnt afraid to take control. BE A MAN! Edit :- Were you trolling with that second paragraph JiSu ? lol
I wasn't really trying to troll lol. Looking at his other posts about how he wants to approach her, I was just trying to crafting him a possible situation where he can know her feelings and touching her without coming off as a potential rapist.. lol
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lol that I can understand
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all this shit is natural to me but when my heart is pounding pounding pounding i hold back!! h-e-s-i-t-a-t-i-o-n
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