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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
July 02 2011 16:41 GMT
#61
On July 01 2011 06:37 Ravencruiser wrote:
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On June 28 2011 22:33 tirentu wrote:
The metal community is overwhelmingly elitist..


Not nearly as much classical musicians I can assure you that

We laugh at the metal kids and dismiss their music as garbage just like most other genres, and moreover we also laugh at their completely unfounded elitism.

You have to be elite to be elitist, and metal artists? Elite? Lol, in comparison to Lady Gaga perhaps.

An analogy/generalization would be that all the 12 year olds listen to Justin Bieber thinking they're the shit, while the metal community are 30 year olds listening to the likes of Metallica thinking their music is the shit and Justin Bieber is completely garbage. Well, the classical community would be 120 year olds, looking down at all the other genres with elitist batons and tuxedos.


The above is not my opinion (I listen to older stuff like slipknot and other genres), but is pretty true among most of my friends majoring/minoring in music. Still the undeniable fact remains that in terms of pure skill/training required to produce the sounds necessary to be deemed good music (in their respect audiences), it is classical music > blue/jazz > metal > rock > garbage music (rap/pop/RnB/etc., rock is where the classical musician in me draws the line).


First off, you're right. No community is more elitist than that of classical music on the internet.

That said, you really don't seem to know anything about the metal elitists you're dismissing. We believe Slipknot is not metal, and Metallica has sucked since 1990. Metal elitists respect classical and jazz music while spurning everything else. If a metal band becomes popular or sells records, it's because they've sold out and are no longer making good music. Metal elitists are hipsters with Viking beards.

Signed,
A self-loathing metal elitist.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
July 25 2011 03:23 GMT
#62
There is a lot of elitism within the core listeners as well. It's not just "non-core" metal looking down on core metal. There are quite a few of my friends who listen to deathcore that despise a lot of lighter metalcore bands such as Bullet for My Valentine, Bring Me the Horizon, We Came as Romans, etc etc. They generally refer to the bands being "emo" and despise them for their scene kid following.

I listen to a variety of metal bands(everything from Asking Alexandria, to Veil of Maya, to All Shall Perish, to Dark Tranquillity, to Children of Bodom) though I generally hang in the core realm. Even though I am trending away from the more casual appealing bands such as BFMV, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, I try not to look down on them or belittle them. For after all, they are the most easy to access bands, and they do a good job of opening minds to the metal scene.
=)=
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
August 01 2011 20:57 GMT
#63
On July 02 2011 20:58 Wegandi wrote:
Why would anyone listen to Deathcore when there are Death Metal bands that are a ton better? At least there is a cogent argument for those who listen to MDM like Insomnium or Mors Principium Est instead of Morbid Angel or Death since it's pretty different and doesn't aim at the same material.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sSgGpdVlAQ&feature=related[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqsBUFmP3cc&feature=related[/video]

Makes no sense, but to each their own!


Oh you make it sound like we have to choose one thing to listen to. I love death metal, 80's pop and kpop, and none of them are even close to each other
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RadBrad64
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 00:22:08
September 15 2011 00:21 GMT
#64
When people say the 'Metalheads are elitist' that really gets me down and I can't help but take it to heart...
Metalheads are not elitist.. they are no more or less elitist than the next person. I think it's just that you'll find Metalheads are more open to express how they feel with a passion.
Everyone can be elitist, don't single out a subculture just because they might talk about it more.
A lot of us Metalheads are very open minded to new music.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RadBrad13?feature=mhee
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
September 15 2011 01:02 GMT
#65
There's nothing wrong with being elitist, as long as it's based on merit. What the hell could be wrong with simply only listening to the best music you can find? For me, that ranges from Beethoven to Immolation, and definitely doesn't include any of the metalcore bands listed in this thread. They sound juvenile and stupid to me. Guess I'm elitist. Oh no.
Jawmare
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada85 Posts
November 06 2011 23:50 GMT
#66
Being open-minded is the worst sin any metalhead can commit, metal is not about being open-minded.
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