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Our neighbors moved in the day after we did. The lot has two houses on it. Our house in the back, and was the original house on the property. From what the landlord tells me, it was built on the alley and no one used it. Just a large front yard with a driveway. When he decided to start renting the property, he built a house on the front yard, and the backyard is shared between us. ![[image loading]](http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/dnauge/eeeee.jpg)
tldr; We're living in really close proximity to them.
Okay, SO. The most common way to get to our house is to park on the street and walk through the privacy gate into the backyard, then our place. No big deal. The problem is the neighbor kept her trash can right next to the privacy gate, and didn't tie trash bags and often sends her kids out to put in there. So pretty much in less than a month of this practice, the area around her trash can was a fucking nasty disaster. Top of the few weeks of 90+ degree weather, the heat really brought out the smell in it.
My landlord stopped by and my fiance and I just casually asked him where the that trash can was usually kept. He saw the mess, the smell, etc and was as upset as we were and asked her to move it. She came out, said hello (we hadn't had problems with her until then), was really friendly and was like okay yeah, I'll keep it off to the side of our house, no problem!
That night, she cusses out my fiance on Facebook, calls her a snitch, etcetcetc. My fiance replied "if you're going to act like that, you can stay in the front yard, and we'll stay in the back."
She told me about the messages, I shrugged it off like whatever.
11 AM she comes storming back here...YELLING. Again with the snitch stuff, I was upstairs and saw/heard it from the bedroom window. TBH, she's kind of loud so initially, I wasn't quite sure if she was being friendly or if she was angry. She targeted my fiance, I'm still not sure wtf is going on. Finally, I make out what she's saying and go downstairs. I get there just in time to hear "YOUR FACE ISN'T PREGNANT" as this (honest to god) 400+ lb woman comes storming towards the door. Yeah, my fiance is 7 months pregnant. She attempts the slam the door in her face, she storms through anyway, and out of no where there's her husband pulling her out of our house. My fiance is crying, she's just as shocked as I am. In the two months prior, all interaction has been super friendly, we were even happy about how nice our new neighbor was. This is all over placement of a trash can...
Police show up, take note of things and generally just don't give a fuck. They tell the woman not to come into the backyard at all, and surprisingly enough she's obliged. It's been two weeks since.
However, her kids have been fucking HORRIBLE. We don't have central cooling so we rely on window units for cooling. It's fine, but when it's as hot outside as it has been lately, running the dryer can be too much at times. To save ourselves the heat and energy, we hung up a clothes line. Her daughter came back here last week and picked off every single clothes pin, threw it off the fence and ruined my favorite shirt in the grass. Seriously. What. the. fuck. I knocked on her door, told her what her daughter did and she didn't give a shit. Awesome, she started getting loud and unnecessarily aggressive so I didn't bother pressing the issue anymore.
Other incidents.
1. I was pissed about this anyway, but I've spent my own money/time/energy de-weeding the yard, cleaning it up, mulching, trying to restore life to the plants that were neglected, etcetc. The flower bushes are finally starting to bloom and I came home to find 6 of the flowers cut off and left on the porch. Lovely.
2. The two daughters (10 and 8) had their 2 year old cousin back there ALONE almost all day earlier this week. They changed his diapers and everything back there, and just left them out for the rain to come down on them and swell them up into a nasty mess.
3. Random shit left outside everywhere, including trash. Popsicle wrappers, nail polish, a blanket that's ruined now, etc. Seriously, just making a huge ass mess. I've been cleaning it every few days, but come on.
4. The 10 year old was riding my son's electrical jeep thing. And she's no small girl, I'm not being mean, I'm just saying - I saw the stress in that plastic shell. I got her off of it asap and I make sure not to leave it out unless we're playing with it right then anymore.
So her daughters have just had free reign back there. Which is fine, but I feel like they're intentionally causing trouble. I know if I go and bitch to her mom she'll just rage and cause a fuss I'd rather avoid.
I informed the landlord, told her everything here pretty much and he's not much use right now. But here's the big thing. I mention husband, and he doesn't know what I'm talking about. Turns out, the husband that lives there is doing so illegally. This woman is on section 8. He wants me to try and get the husband's name so he nail them for fraud. Great, I have to do his work. I went ahead and emailed the fraud department and spoke with someone, but he wants that name too. I wish I could get it, but there's no easy way of doing so. Her Facebook is private so that doesn't do me much good.
I'm disgusted by the fact this woman and not work and freely exploit the section 8 system. My fiance and I both work hard in school and our jobs to live here, and this woman does it sitting home watching TV all day. I wish my landlord gave a fuck.
Any ideas on how to get this guy's name?
She is constantly in our mailbox, we've caught her multiple times - and I'm not sure she's stolen anything or not, what can I do about that?
What would you do? :X
It's been such a pain, any advice is welcome!
update:
Yessss.
I'm so happy, haha. Today a service rep from ADT knocked on my door and asked is Dominique available? I said Dominique X? Just to make sure, and yep it was him.
Landlord came over today and made her move the trash can, then talked to her about whatever. I let him know the name of the husband he was more excited than I was.
update 2: Okay so, her social worker asked us to get her a write up of what happened, and pictures of the trash can. For reference, they keep missing trash day. They're outside all day, but happen to hermit on the day you have to move the trash to the street.
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This is her trash can. There are seriously like 100 flies that start swarming once you walk by. They're all along the side of her house now.
 
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You could always just threaten her with the fraud charges then maybe she will back off. Having neighbours from Hell is no fun once one of my neighbours was growing marijuana is his basement we could smell it. He was being an abusive **** swearing and playing loud music all the time so we told him we knew about the drugs he denied it of course but within in two weeks he moved away.
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Ouch what a nightmare lol. My best advice is to be friendly to these kinds of people who are your neighbors because they can make your life hellish, such as they are doing already to you. But I guess thats probably out the window by now.
Sad to say, but I think your best solution is to save up the monies and consider counting the days when you can move out. I'd just stop giving a shit about the backyard tbh, too much of a hassle for you to keep cleaning that stuff up for little kids.
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Oh geez. Sounds like this really sucks. I'm not really sure how I can help, but maybe you can do something about her looking through your mailbox. I'm pretty sure that's a federal offense. Maybe you could take a picture as proof , but I'm not sure of the legality of taking someone's picture. But in this case, it's probably not illegal?
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If shes married shouldn't there be public registers of it?
On June 23 2011 17:59 Bartiemus wrote:
Having neighbours from Hell is no fun once one of my neighbours was growing marijuana is his basement we could smell it. He was being an abusive **** swearing and playing loud music all the time so we told him we knew about the drugs he denied it of course but within in two weeks he moved away.
Not cool 
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Oh wow it sounds like a real nightmare.You said first that the landlord was as upset as you by the smell and a the mess, then you said he doesn't give a shit, I'm confused. I guess the landlord is still your best ally here. Just explain the situation, and even threaten him to leave, and I'm sure he will understand that nobody will even replace you since it's so smelly and messy. He will eventually have to do something.
Good luck, sounds like a horrible situation, especially if you have a very young kid.
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"You're face isn't pregnant"? Holy crap, she's got a serious case of the crazies going on... I feel for you man, neighbours are always a risk and this is a serious shitty situation.
I don't know what the laws are like where you live but here in Belgium it might be hard to get them out quickly. A renter has 6 months after being given notice that they should move out. I'd be careful about the whole fraud thing. If they go that unhinged because of a thrash can, they can make 6 months seem like an eternity.
Do you like living there? I mean, like as in "I want to live here the rest of my life"? Of not, could you lean on the landlord? I mean, if it is illegal for the man to live there under the system, it might also be illegal for the landlord to rent it to them if he knows there violate some prerequisite?
I'd put a lock on your mailbox. Could you put up a big fence in the yard? I would try to avoid them as much as possible...
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Turns out, the husband that lives there is doing so illegally.
That will piss off the landlord quite a bit more than you might think. He's out for his own interests and the last thing he wants is a case of welfare fraud blowing up in one of his properties which he arguably enabled. He sounds like he's on your side, tell the landlord that and see what happens.
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Dude you just need to move out. It's not worth your time to try and fix the situation. Find a new place and get the fuck out of there and save yourself all the pain. let someone else deal with the crazies
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on a related note, people should be required to pass a test before they are allowed to have kids
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Yea ... why dont you find another place to live?
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How many times have you seen her husband? He could simply be a boyfriend/something or other that stays by every now and then, or just happened to be there during the whole "YOUR FACE ISN'T PREGNANT" thing. Maybe I forgot to read something too, I dunno. Best of luck though!
+ Show Spoiler +I enjoy living out in the middle of the woods more and more... then my internet crashes
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Definitely do something about your mailbox, don't need that crazy woman stealing your information on top of all the crap that's already happened.
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On June 23 2011 18:00 Zidane wrote:
Ouch what a nightmare lol. My best advice is to be friendly to these kinds of people who are your neighbors because they can make your life hellish, such as they are doing already to you. But I guess thats probably out the window by now.
Sad to say, but I think your best solution is to save up the monies and consider counting the days when you can move out. I'd just stop giving a shit about the backyard tbh, too much of a hassle for you to keep cleaning that stuff up for little kids.
Well, the problem is the backyard is kind of like our front yard. My son plays in it so i can't just let it go
On June 23 2011 18:11 endy wrote:
Oh wow it sounds like a real nightmare.You said first that the landlord was as upset as you by the smell and a the mess, then you said he doesn't give a shit, I'm confused. I guess the landlord is still your best ally here. Just explain the situation, and even threaten him to leave, and I'm sure he will understand that nobody will even replace you since it's so smelly and messy. He will eventually have to do something.
Good luck, sounds like a horrible situation, especially if you have a very young kid.
What I meant was, he made them moved the trash can asap but now that's it's coming down the section 8 deal - he doesn't really care. He pretty much asked if we could get the name for him, and then that was it.
Because of our proximity, we were super friendly. Had no problems with her until then. She blew something really small out of proportion and now we're forever in this awkward situation. (Unless I can get that guy's name.)
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Ok, getting the guys name.
Here's thinking out of the box:
- Get a person you know to deliver something when you know the guy is over there alone. He'll have to sign his name to accept it.
- Invite them over for a BBQ and bluff your ass off being friendly and getting to know him. First name will be a given, last name will be harder. You might be able to get his high school if you fish a bit, might get you to his last name
- Tell him you're thinking about doing some stuff to the yard, installing some new fence or whatever and that you need his permission for the whichever reason.
And here is very far out of the box, illegal or dangerous
- Run into his car with your car. He'll have to fill in his name for the insurance company. Or doesn't it work like that over there?
- Risky: Report a crime (like a burglary). Police will ask his name as a witness.
- Equal opportunity stealing: Check their mail for the name?
- You are on the same land. Also on the same network?
Seems I can think up more illegal ways than legal ways...
EDIT: Now that I think about it, the very first thing is probably also illegal...
- You could try asking the kids?
- You say the guy does have a job? Might try following him to his place of work. There you can ask pretty much anyone his name. Most people will tell you I guess.
- Try sending them some fake letters which require them to reply with their information for some reason or another. A contest or some other thing. Illegal but depending on their intelligence level it might be efficient.
- Call them (or have someone call them) claiming to be a radio station. Stuff like that happens sometimes, right?
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Living in apartments, aka- close proximity like this, made me give up on humanity. Quite literally. I used to be a like hardcore environmentalist and political, but now I just don't give a fuck. If we ruin the planet and don't get to go on- oh well, we don't deserve it anyways.
There is no shortage of the people you describe, and the "holier than thou" types who look down on like everyone and call them lazy are no better. Do your best to stay out of their way and deal with their shit- because that is how life is.
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If you really want that guy's name, you could try to ask the 8 year old daughter, her mum probably never told her not to give her dad's name to someone else.
"Hi sweetheart, what's your daddy's name ? "
Sweetheart kindly answers.
"lol ezpz"
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On June 23 2011 19:09 endy wrote:
If you really want that guy's name, you could try to ask the 8 year old daughter, her mum probably never told her not to give her dad's name to someone else.
"Hi sweetheart, what's your daddy's name ? "
Sweetheart kindly answers.
"lol ezpz"
This.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can get a restraining order? Pretty sure you can legally disallow them from entering your property. Also, if you bug the landlord/police enough they'll be forced to something, jsut to get you off their backs. BUT if that all doesnt work, I don't see any other option but to leave or start paying them back. Anyway, don't envy you, seems liek a pretty fucked up situation to be in.
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