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Our neighbors moved in the day after we did. The lot has two houses on it. Our house in the back, and was the original house on the property. From what the landlord tells me, it was built on the alley and no one used it. Just a large front yard with a driveway. When he decided to start renting the property, he built a house on the front yard, and the backyard is shared between us. ![[image loading]](http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/dnauge/eeeee.jpg)
tldr; We're living in really close proximity to them.
Okay, SO. The most common way to get to our house is to park on the street and walk through the privacy gate into the backyard, then our place. No big deal. The problem is the neighbor kept her trash can right next to the privacy gate, and didn't tie trash bags and often sends her kids out to put in there. So pretty much in less than a month of this practice, the area around her trash can was a fucking nasty disaster. Top of the few weeks of 90+ degree weather, the heat really brought out the smell in it.
My landlord stopped by and my fiance and I just casually asked him where the that trash can was usually kept. He saw the mess, the smell, etc and was as upset as we were and asked her to move it. She came out, said hello (we hadn't had problems with her until then), was really friendly and was like okay yeah, I'll keep it off to the side of our house, no problem!
That night, she cusses out my fiance on Facebook, calls her a snitch, etcetcetc. My fiance replied "if you're going to act like that, you can stay in the front yard, and we'll stay in the back."
She told me about the messages, I shrugged it off like whatever.
11 AM she comes storming back here...YELLING. Again with the snitch stuff, I was upstairs and saw/heard it from the bedroom window. TBH, she's kind of loud so initially, I wasn't quite sure if she was being friendly or if she was angry. She targeted my fiance, I'm still not sure wtf is going on. Finally, I make out what she's saying and go downstairs. I get there just in time to hear "YOUR FACE ISN'T PREGNANT" as this (honest to god) 400+ lb woman comes storming towards the door. Yeah, my fiance is 7 months pregnant. She attempts the slam the door in her face, she storms through anyway, and out of no where there's her husband pulling her out of our house. My fiance is crying, she's just as shocked as I am. In the two months prior, all interaction has been super friendly, we were even happy about how nice our new neighbor was. This is all over placement of a trash can...
Police show up, take note of things and generally just don't give a fuck. They tell the woman not to come into the backyard at all, and surprisingly enough she's obliged. It's been two weeks since.
However, her kids have been fucking HORRIBLE. We don't have central cooling so we rely on window units for cooling. It's fine, but when it's as hot outside as it has been lately, running the dryer can be too much at times. To save ourselves the heat and energy, we hung up a clothes line. Her daughter came back here last week and picked off every single clothes pin, threw it off the fence and ruined my favorite shirt in the grass. Seriously. What. the. fuck. I knocked on her door, told her what her daughter did and she didn't give a shit. Awesome, she started getting loud and unnecessarily aggressive so I didn't bother pressing the issue anymore.
Other incidents.
1. I was pissed about this anyway, but I've spent my own money/time/energy de-weeding the yard, cleaning it up, mulching, trying to restore life to the plants that were neglected, etcetc. The flower bushes are finally starting to bloom and I came home to find 6 of the flowers cut off and left on the porch. Lovely.
2. The two daughters (10 and 8) had their 2 year old cousin back there ALONE almost all day earlier this week. They changed his diapers and everything back there, and just left them out for the rain to come down on them and swell them up into a nasty mess.
3. Random shit left outside everywhere, including trash. Popsicle wrappers, nail polish, a blanket that's ruined now, etc. Seriously, just making a huge ass mess. I've been cleaning it every few days, but come on.
4. The 10 year old was riding my son's electrical jeep thing. And she's no small girl, I'm not being mean, I'm just saying - I saw the stress in that plastic shell. I got her off of it asap and I make sure not to leave it out unless we're playing with it right then anymore.
So her daughters have just had free reign back there. Which is fine, but I feel like they're intentionally causing trouble. I know if I go and bitch to her mom she'll just rage and cause a fuss I'd rather avoid.
I informed the landlord, told her everything here pretty much and he's not much use right now. But here's the big thing. I mention husband, and he doesn't know what I'm talking about. Turns out, the husband that lives there is doing so illegally. This woman is on section 8. He wants me to try and get the husband's name so he nail them for fraud. Great, I have to do his work. I went ahead and emailed the fraud department and spoke with someone, but he wants that name too. I wish I could get it, but there's no easy way of doing so. Her Facebook is private so that doesn't do me much good.
I'm disgusted by the fact this woman and not work and freely exploit the section 8 system. My fiance and I both work hard in school and our jobs to live here, and this woman does it sitting home watching TV all day. I wish my landlord gave a fuck.
Any ideas on how to get this guy's name?
She is constantly in our mailbox, we've caught her multiple times - and I'm not sure she's stolen anything or not, what can I do about that?
What would you do? :X
It's been such a pain, any advice is welcome!
update:
Yessss.
I'm so happy, haha. Today a service rep from ADT knocked on my door and asked is Dominique available? I said Dominique X? Just to make sure, and yep it was him.
Landlord came over today and made her move the trash can, then talked to her about whatever. I let him know the name of the husband he was more excited than I was.
update 2: Okay so, her social worker asked us to get her a write up of what happened, and pictures of the trash can. For reference, they keep missing trash day. They're outside all day, but happen to hermit on the day you have to move the trash to the street.
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This is her trash can. There are seriously like 100 flies that start swarming once you walk by. They're all along the side of her house now.
 
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You could always just threaten her with the fraud charges then maybe she will back off. Having neighbours from Hell is no fun once one of my neighbours was growing marijuana is his basement we could smell it. He was being an abusive **** swearing and playing loud music all the time so we told him we knew about the drugs he denied it of course but within in two weeks he moved away.
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Ouch what a nightmare lol. My best advice is to be friendly to these kinds of people who are your neighbors because they can make your life hellish, such as they are doing already to you. But I guess thats probably out the window by now.
Sad to say, but I think your best solution is to save up the monies and consider counting the days when you can move out. I'd just stop giving a shit about the backyard tbh, too much of a hassle for you to keep cleaning that stuff up for little kids.
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Oh geez. Sounds like this really sucks. I'm not really sure how I can help, but maybe you can do something about her looking through your mailbox. I'm pretty sure that's a federal offense. Maybe you could take a picture as proof , but I'm not sure of the legality of taking someone's picture. But in this case, it's probably not illegal?
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If shes married shouldn't there be public registers of it?
On June 23 2011 17:59 Bartiemus wrote:
Having neighbours from Hell is no fun once one of my neighbours was growing marijuana is his basement we could smell it. He was being an abusive **** swearing and playing loud music all the time so we told him we knew about the drugs he denied it of course but within in two weeks he moved away.
Not cool 
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Oh wow it sounds like a real nightmare.You said first that the landlord was as upset as you by the smell and a the mess, then you said he doesn't give a shit, I'm confused. I guess the landlord is still your best ally here. Just explain the situation, and even threaten him to leave, and I'm sure he will understand that nobody will even replace you since it's so smelly and messy. He will eventually have to do something.
Good luck, sounds like a horrible situation, especially if you have a very young kid.
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"You're face isn't pregnant"? Holy crap, she's got a serious case of the crazies going on... I feel for you man, neighbours are always a risk and this is a serious shitty situation.
I don't know what the laws are like where you live but here in Belgium it might be hard to get them out quickly. A renter has 6 months after being given notice that they should move out. I'd be careful about the whole fraud thing. If they go that unhinged because of a thrash can, they can make 6 months seem like an eternity.
Do you like living there? I mean, like as in "I want to live here the rest of my life"? Of not, could you lean on the landlord? I mean, if it is illegal for the man to live there under the system, it might also be illegal for the landlord to rent it to them if he knows there violate some prerequisite?
I'd put a lock on your mailbox. Could you put up a big fence in the yard? I would try to avoid them as much as possible...
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Turns out, the husband that lives there is doing so illegally.
That will piss off the landlord quite a bit more than you might think. He's out for his own interests and the last thing he wants is a case of welfare fraud blowing up in one of his properties which he arguably enabled. He sounds like he's on your side, tell the landlord that and see what happens.
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Dude you just need to move out. It's not worth your time to try and fix the situation. Find a new place and get the fuck out of there and save yourself all the pain. let someone else deal with the crazies
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on a related note, people should be required to pass a test before they are allowed to have kids
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Yea ... why dont you find another place to live?
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How many times have you seen her husband? He could simply be a boyfriend/something or other that stays by every now and then, or just happened to be there during the whole "YOUR FACE ISN'T PREGNANT" thing. Maybe I forgot to read something too, I dunno. Best of luck though!
+ Show Spoiler +I enjoy living out in the middle of the woods more and more... then my internet crashes
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Definitely do something about your mailbox, don't need that crazy woman stealing your information on top of all the crap that's already happened.
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On June 23 2011 18:00 Zidane wrote:
Ouch what a nightmare lol. My best advice is to be friendly to these kinds of people who are your neighbors because they can make your life hellish, such as they are doing already to you. But I guess thats probably out the window by now.
Sad to say, but I think your best solution is to save up the monies and consider counting the days when you can move out. I'd just stop giving a shit about the backyard tbh, too much of a hassle for you to keep cleaning that stuff up for little kids.
Well, the problem is the backyard is kind of like our front yard. My son plays in it so i can't just let it go
On June 23 2011 18:11 endy wrote:
Oh wow it sounds like a real nightmare.You said first that the landlord was as upset as you by the smell and a the mess, then you said he doesn't give a shit, I'm confused. I guess the landlord is still your best ally here. Just explain the situation, and even threaten him to leave, and I'm sure he will understand that nobody will even replace you since it's so smelly and messy. He will eventually have to do something.
Good luck, sounds like a horrible situation, especially if you have a very young kid.
What I meant was, he made them moved the trash can asap but now that's it's coming down the section 8 deal - he doesn't really care. He pretty much asked if we could get the name for him, and then that was it.
Because of our proximity, we were super friendly. Had no problems with her until then. She blew something really small out of proportion and now we're forever in this awkward situation. (Unless I can get that guy's name.)
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Ok, getting the guys name.
Here's thinking out of the box:
- Get a person you know to deliver something when you know the guy is over there alone. He'll have to sign his name to accept it.
- Invite them over for a BBQ and bluff your ass off being friendly and getting to know him. First name will be a given, last name will be harder. You might be able to get his high school if you fish a bit, might get you to his last name
- Tell him you're thinking about doing some stuff to the yard, installing some new fence or whatever and that you need his permission for the whichever reason.
And here is very far out of the box, illegal or dangerous
- Run into his car with your car. He'll have to fill in his name for the insurance company. Or doesn't it work like that over there?
- Risky: Report a crime (like a burglary). Police will ask his name as a witness.
- Equal opportunity stealing: Check their mail for the name?
- You are on the same land. Also on the same network?
Seems I can think up more illegal ways than legal ways...
EDIT: Now that I think about it, the very first thing is probably also illegal...
- You could try asking the kids?
- You say the guy does have a job? Might try following him to his place of work. There you can ask pretty much anyone his name. Most people will tell you I guess.
- Try sending them some fake letters which require them to reply with their information for some reason or another. A contest or some other thing. Illegal but depending on their intelligence level it might be efficient.
- Call them (or have someone call them) claiming to be a radio station. Stuff like that happens sometimes, right?
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Living in apartments, aka- close proximity like this, made me give up on humanity. Quite literally. I used to be a like hardcore environmentalist and political, but now I just don't give a fuck. If we ruin the planet and don't get to go on- oh well, we don't deserve it anyways.
There is no shortage of the people you describe, and the "holier than thou" types who look down on like everyone and call them lazy are no better. Do your best to stay out of their way and deal with their shit- because that is how life is.
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If you really want that guy's name, you could try to ask the 8 year old daughter, her mum probably never told her not to give her dad's name to someone else.
"Hi sweetheart, what's your daddy's name ? "
Sweetheart kindly answers.
"lol ezpz"
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On June 23 2011 19:09 endy wrote:
If you really want that guy's name, you could try to ask the 8 year old daughter, her mum probably never told her not to give her dad's name to someone else.
"Hi sweetheart, what's your daddy's name ? "
Sweetheart kindly answers.
"lol ezpz"
This.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can get a restraining order? Pretty sure you can legally disallow them from entering your property. Also, if you bug the landlord/police enough they'll be forced to something, jsut to get you off their backs. BUT if that all doesnt work, I don't see any other option but to leave or start paying them back. Anyway, don't envy you, seems liek a pretty fucked up situation to be in.
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That sounds like a shitty time. Best advice is probably to move away.
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I would just move out.
If your landlord doesn't care then it means either he is too jaded or lazy or there is some backroom money on the stake for him.
There is nothing you can do really. If the idiots drag you down to their level, they will always beat you with experience.
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I would just bug the police.
Say you want to start a file that you can keep updating or something in person.
Explain EVERYTHING they do wrong all the time.
Someone at the station will eventually look into it especially if you keep calling back with more to add.
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1. Acquire Hard Drugs.
2. Plant Hard Drugs on neighbors property
3. Report suspicious activity to police.
4. Profit.
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sounds like a real piece of work moved in... jeez... as said before just asked the kid what the guys name is. I really hate hearing about things like this... I wonder if they honestly think so highly of themselves lol
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You could always just move, but I bet the easier thing to do would be to get them out of there. My solutions for people I hate always seems to be to burn their house down, but I've never acted on it. Could be satisfying...
Either way I'm sure finding that guy's name won't be too difficult. With enough Facebook creeping you might even be able to do it, or just ask those rotten kids.
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We're having our second kid and as far price/location/everything goes this place is perfect.
Except for this bitch ruining everything
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When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Meanwhile look for a new place, living near some white trash family isn't going to work.
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Try to negotiate with your landlord to get a wall dividing the yard? Not sure how nice your landlord is.
option 2: invest in security cameras.
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You said last time she threw a real bitch fit when the garbage thing came up, and the husband had to drag her out? Well, when the husband is home, just lightly antagonize her with stuff, and if she's as angry as you says she is, keep poking at her patience so till it forces the husband to get involved. While she's yelling at you or your fiance, the other talk to the husband. Play it smooth, get an introduction, and you've got freedom on the way.
Though this sounds much more complicated than inviting her over, sitting in a comfortable chair with a glass of scotch and saying "you stay out of our yard, or your section 8 violation may come up on the police's radar." A law breaker will likely be more interested in self-preservation than petty revenge once they're discovered.
This whole situation gets me oddly interested. Do let us know what happens :D
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On June 24 2011 10:20 dudeman001 wrote:
You said last time she threw a real bitch fit when the garbage thing came up, and the husband had to drag her out? Well, when the husband is home, just lightly antagonize her with stuff, and if she's as angry as you says she is, keep poking at her patience so till it forces the husband to get involved. While she's yelling at you or your fiance, the other talk to the husband. Play it smooth, get an introduction, and you've got freedom on the way.
Though this sounds much more complicated than inviting her over, sitting in a comfortable chair with a glass of scotch and saying "you stay out of our yard, or your section 8 violation may come up on the police's radar." A law breaker will likely be more interested in self-preservation than petty revenge once they're discovered.
This whole situation gets me oddly interested. Do let us know what happens :D
LOL
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On June 24 2011 09:50 phant wrote:
Try to negotiate with your landlord to get a wall dividing the yard? Not sure how nice your landlord is.
option 2: invest in security cameras.
There is actually a security camera already mounted in the front of our house facing the backyard.
It's got a female phone jack plug hanging off the end of it. Not sure what I'd need to get it running again.
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Yuck, sounds horrible, especially if you've got small people to worry about. I hope you can get it sorted!
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if you get the name and report them for fraud you really are a snitch.
don't do the landlords job.
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On June 24 2011 12:45 ulszz wrote:
if you get the name and report them for fraud you really are a snitch.
don't do the landlords job.
If the landlord was doing his job, that might be relevant. It wouldn't be being a snitch, it would be an attempt to protect his family and his space.
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So, if i understood right, that crazy bitch has a husband? (came to get her away from your door)
maybe if you talk to him and he has a bit more brain cells left to actually change things? If not, i'd threaten her somehow. Or maybe you could say to your landlord, that you will move out unless he/she doesn't do something about this? Let the landlord know that you will let the next ones know about the situation there is going on right know. I bet it would affect the next ones who are considering to move in.
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Firstly, I would just move away. Its not worth dealing with a crazy fat bitch who thinks she can do what she wants and sit around the house, especially given that you have a young child on the way in a couple months.
Secondly, if you absolutely can't move, pursue every avenue to get the husband's name and get them evicted. Then, move whenever you can.
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On June 24 2011 14:09 Grettin wrote:
Or maybe you could say to your landlord, that you will move out unless he/she doesn't do something about this?
I'd go with this, as long as you are willing to folow through. Moving with kids and when pregnant/with small baby is no fun though.
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On June 24 2011 15:36 Asrathiel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 14:09 Grettin wrote:
Or maybe you could say to your landlord, that you will move out unless he/she doesn't do something about this?
I'd go with this, as long as you are willing to folow through. Moving with kids and when pregnant/with small baby is no fun though.
Eh..it's perfect in that we're like two miles away from my elderly mom, it's relatively cheap for what we're getting, room wise it has everything we need for our kids and not a bad drive to school for this fall. I'll just put with the bitch for these reasons, I'm just worried things will escalate.
On June 24 2011 14:09 Grettin wrote:
So, if i understood right, that crazy bitch has a husband? (came to get her away from your door)
maybe if you talk to him and he has a bit more brain cells left to actually change things? If not, i'd threaten her somehow. Or maybe you could say to your landlord, that you will move out unless he/she doesn't do something about this? Let the landlord know that you will let the next ones know about the situation there is going on right know. I bet it would affect the next ones who are considering to move in.
He's pretty elusive, I see him occasionally but not much. I'm sure this isn't the first time he's lived with them illegally, so he's used to stay hidden out for the most part. To be honest, he's 28 but I honest to god thought he was 15 when I moved in. He helped me carry something and I was talking to him like a teen. Asked him if he played football, video games, etc. haha.
I know where he works, would it be possible to ask for him and hope they slip the first name? I 'THINK' I know his last name. Maybe I'll try that tomorrow.
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Following this shit man, GL with the problem, awesome to see what kind of people post on TL
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So, I don't know if I made it clear but we park on the street and walk along the side walk on the side of her house that leads to the privacy gate into the yard, then into our house.
Right fucking against the gate now is her trash can. Right next to that trash can? Her window AC unit.
You literally have 2 feet of clearance to get past in and open the gate. She's pretty clearly trying to just be a bitch at this point so rather than start another fuss I want her to feel obligated to move that trash can. Odds are when the temperature picks up later this week and her trash can fills up a little more, the smell going into that AC may be enough but I'd rather speed up the process.
Any ideas for a stinky ass liquid I can put inside the trash can?
EDIT:
I want it to last 1-2 days max, doesn't have to be a long term thing.
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Yessss.
I'm so happy, haha. Today a service rep from ADT knocked on my door and asked is Dominique available? I said Dominique X? Just to make sure, and yep it was him.
Landlord came over today and made her move the trash can, then talked to her about whatever. I let him know the name of the husband he was more excited than I was.
gg.
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Sharing a yard with a neighbor sounds like a bad situation regardless. I try not to judge but I had a picture painted of the entire family and of the law they were breaking as soon as you got to "YOUR FACE ISN'T PREGNANT." I don't imagine many people that pay their own rent would be so sorry to the landlord but then so outraged for you "snitching"
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I don't want to write a meaningless post, but: fuck yes. I hope you nail this stupid cow as well as rid yourself of a terrible neighbor. I also have a terrible neighbor and one across the street, boxed in by a coke dealer and a crack dealer. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I fully support your mission to live in normalcy via ridding yourself of those neighbors.
P.S that is a shitty living situation, no matter who lives in that house.. it'll always cause some stress due to the sharing/close quarters.
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Unce unce unce unce. Things are looking good :D Glad to hear your landlord is interested in the situation after all.
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Good work. Keep up the documentation, getting as much photographic/video evidence of what's going on as possible. I hope she gets nailed. :D
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this thread is really interesting from some reason. keep it updated!
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Haha, awesome. Lady deserves to get into trouble.
Keep us posted
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Approach the authorities. The longer this goes on, the worse it can get.
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They left a 2 year old in the backyard alone all day? Please call social services and get that 2 year old help. Do it anonymously if you have to. Parents like this completely disgust me.
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Detective Click strikes! I have no advice but only words of encouragement. GL getting that scourge out of there! Seems you are doing everything correctly.
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just keep building up that case file. when you finally get enough on them it'll help soooooo much ^^
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Brilliant! Glad to hear there's some progress... keep us updated! ^_^
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On July 08 2011 09:35 Joementum wrote:
They left a 2 year old in the backyard alone all day? Please call social services and get that 2 year old help. Do it anonymously if you have to. Parents like this completely disgust me.
No, not all day. It was almost 10 minutes, but still a wtf moment.
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