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MGShogun
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
May 21 2011 10:56 GMT
#1
"Each friend represents a world in us, a world possibly not born until they arrive, and it is only by this meeting that a new world is born."

Honestly, if it wasn't for my Navy buddy, I wouldn't be playing Starcraft 2. That's for certain. I hung out with him a lot and I have no idea how we ended up talking about Starcraft but it just did. We would chat on FB a lot about Starcraft 2, along with other guy. My Navy buddy and the other guy would play SC2 together on frequent basis and I would enjoy their tales.

However, my Navy buddy seems to be sad that I don't own Starcraft 2 so he told me that he will get me the copy so he did. It was fortunate that he got the copy on sale so he save few bucks on it. So I went home with the copy and proceed to installing it on my computer.

Installing SC2 was bitch so I rewind my memories back when I start to play SC:BW. Actually, I only had start play SC:BW maybe couple of months before I got the copy of SC2 and I have never beaten the campaign in SC:BW. Shame on me. OTL But I primarily play Terran campaign so that kinda influence me to focus on Terran in SC2.

I only got SC:BW because I was just curious about it and it's only 15 bucks so it's not too bad. Also, the gaming forum I'm on was very hyper about SC2 so I opted to check out SC:BW to see what's it all about. Also, my gaming buddy convince me to pick up a copy SC:BW so I'm eternally thankful to him for getting me into SC scene. I only play few missions of Terran campaign but it was very neat and I really enjoy but I have never touch Protoss and Zerg campaigns at all.

Then SC2 is now playable on my PC so I start to play the multi player right off the bat. It was very nerve wrecking for me because I had no idea what I was supposed to do. I remember my first game because neither of us would attack each other since I couldn't find my opponent and he was too scared to fight.

My friend would cheese the heck out of me and Navy buddy would simply crush me with his off race. I think I may have get bit frustrated at some point but I opted to continue because I just find it very fun.

In fact, I'm that 'Bob' in this thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209790

So yeah, I'm only playing SC2 for fun and I don't really care if I get promote or not. I just treat it as real time chess that test my mental and ability to solving the problems on the fly. I don't really stress out if I lose or not. In fact, I just lulz if I get overrun and get crushed by bunch of Battlecruisers.

My friends would always tried their best to help me so I really appreciated it a lot. I'm always in awe of my friends because they're sooooooo bloody good. One of them play random, which impressed me a lot. I tried to play random but it was too difficult for me because I cannot play zerg very well, whereas I'm solid with Terran and a-okay with Protoss. Random is too difficult for me since preparing for 9 match ups is just too much for me compared to me sticking with Terran only so I can be ready for 3 match ups.

I used to play with guy whose is in Masters but he would always chew me out and get upset whenever I made a mistake or didn't expand fast enough. I opted not to play with him because I do not want to be lectured at while I'm playing. He seems to be so arrogant and cocky, whose tends to brag about his APM and all that jazz. I tried to avoid to play with him by logging on guest mode so I don't have to deal with him.

Sure, I'm still in Bronze league but I'm just enjoying the game a lot. I just really like how I have to set up everything from beginning and build up the army and tried to microing them to the victory. It's very hard for me to attacking and macroing at the same time but I'm doing the best as I can.

My APM is very very very low so I'm working on hotkeys to improve on that. Amazingly, I manage to beat few players with high APM, which surprised me. Reminds me of the certain Bonjwa with low APM whose would whoop other noobs.

I tried to lure one of my gamer buddies to play SC2 with me and he only play it for a day before he return it back, which saddened me. He didn't like how he get his ass kicked so easily by others and me and complain that it's too hard to get good at it. It's unfortunate because he could have been badass zerg.

I think I'm like that turtle, whose progress is always slow and steady but surely will get there. I'm enjoying the journey and improving my skills in SC2 so it's all about having fun.

However, as much as I play SC2 myself, I find myself prefer to watch SC:BW pro scene just because they're more entertaining to me than SC2 pro scene, in my own personal opinion. I love how Flash pull off crazy moves during the match while Jaedong is being badass mofo and very aggressive as heck.

My Navy buddy is very happy that I'm able to play SC2 with him so we can 2 vs 2 whenever we can. I don't mind because it's pretty cool and challenging game that keep me stimulating.

As 'Bob', I'm having fun in SC2 and I do support the e-sport scene. :D

Isn't that enough? XD


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Terminate him with extreme prejudice.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
May 21 2011 11:17 GMT
#2
Yea man. I play for fun too and I was kinda in your shoes with two friends who played scbw all the time. They were freaking good (in my eyes) as each of them had like 250 apm in brood war! I would always play 1v1 obs or we would do 3v5 computers or something. I remember in broodwar i had like 35 APM and be floating at around 2000 minerals and gas all the time on only two bases as zerg. That was like three years ago and I eventually stopped playing bw about two years ago with no major improvement in my play. SC2 beta was released and I hopped on and got to playing. Was fun but I soon realized that I wasn't that good lol and still had my low apm (40 apm in sc2). I've been playing beta and through the release and played a little bit through the year but stopped due to school and just started back up again. Luckily, I've improved a lot since when the game first came out. I can play at an average of 100-140APM, I've learned some strategies by playing random a lot, and just enjoying the game.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
May 21 2011 11:20 GMT
#3
Sure is enough! loved reading this sc2 is first and foremost about having fun and challenging yourself, and it seems like that's exactly what you do; winning and getting promoted is irrelevant.
I like watching both sc2 and bw, but for the actual excitement and quality of games bw is still ahead imo.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
May 21 2011 11:32 GMT
#4
nice read

playing for fun is cool what should be wrong with it
mainstream keeps this game alive
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 21 2011 11:34 GMT
#5
People had 400 apm in brood war

Anyways, I enjoyed the read ^^ Its nice to see people ENJOY the game :D
Jaedong :3
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11930 Posts
May 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#6
On May 21 2011 20:34 ReketSomething wrote:
People had 400 apm in brood war


Averages are more like 330 or so aren't they? With some people having tops above 500 APM. Besides SC2 measures APM differently from BW. A BW APM would be lower by ~30% in sc2.
Mactator
Profile Joined March 2011
109 Posts
May 21 2011 13:01 GMT
#7
Indeed. I agree. Just keep at the level that you find yourself most comfortable with. I'm pretty sure that you will get into silver league or above if at some point bronze league becomes too easy and therefore boring for you.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 21 2011 15:15 GMT
#8
On May 21 2011 21:20 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 20:34 ReketSomething wrote:
People had 400 apm in brood war


Averages are more like 330 or so aren't they? With some people having tops above 500 APM. Besides SC2 measures APM differently from BW. A BW APM would be lower by ~30% in sc2.

JD/Flash average >400, spike to 600
Average progamer is around 300

And yeah, it's nice to see people just simply enjoying the game
:)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 15:27:43
May 21 2011 15:27 GMT
#9
Out of all the current active progamers Hero has the highest APM afaik

Only he doesn't know how to use it effectivly tee hee.

Also both Flash and Stork don't really have impressive APM , remember that APM =/ skill.
WriterXiao8~~
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
May 21 2011 18:35 GMT
#10
Nice blog, positive attitude.
I stopped playing sc2. And was never good. I think I will try BW (ICCup) but I have no idea when.
BW
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