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The most fundamental distinction in Plato's philosophy is between the many observable objects that appear good and the object that is what goodness really is.
It is asserted by Plato that true philosophers - those who recognise how important it is to distinguish the one (the one thing that goodness is) from the many (the many things that are called good) are in a position to become ethically superior to unenlightened human beings, because of their greater degree of insight they can acquire.
To understand which things are good and why they are good (and if we are not interested in such questions, how can we become good?), we must investigate the form of good.
 
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So, you're pretty much saying, that in order to become good, we must try and investigate what good is?
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On May 20 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:
You have my sword.
Is that good?
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On May 20 2011 08:09 platorepublic wrote:Is that good?
You should know. You're a philosopher.
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I never understood why we give so much credibility to the guy that came up with the concept of platonic relationships, and thought it was a pretty sweet idea.
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On May 20 2011 08:12 NicksonReyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 08:09 platorepublic wrote:On May 20 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:
You have my sword. Is that good? You should know. You're a philosopher.
I don't need a sword. The ultimate of war is peace.
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On May 20 2011 08:17 platorepublic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 08:12 NicksonReyes wrote:On May 20 2011 08:09 platorepublic wrote:On May 20 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:
You have my sword. Is that good? You should know. You're a philosopher. I don't need a sword. The ultimate of war is peace.
The ultimate of war is showing that you are stroger than the others~~
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Plato's philosophy this? Plato's philosophy that? I thought he wrote stories about an old guy that only asked questions.
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On May 20 2011 08:12 hifriend wrote:
I never understood why we give so much credibility to the guy that came up with the concept of platonic relationships, and thought it was a pretty sweet idea.
I'm not sure that the concept of "Platonic relationships" has anything to do with Plato's philosophy at all.
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On May 20 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:
You have my sword.
And you have my bow.
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On May 20 2011 08:32 Talin wrote:And you have my bow.
and Myyyy Axe!
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OP you should pose a question so there's something to discuss. I am interested.
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On May 20 2011 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
OP you should pose a question so there's something to discuss. I am interested.
What is the form of good?
What is goodness?
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On May 20 2011 08:37 Zurles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 08:32 Talin wrote:On May 20 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:
You have my sword. And you have my bow. and Myyyy Axe!
You carry the fate of us all, little one. If this is indeed the will of the Council, then Gondor will see it done.
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On May 20 2011 08:37 Zurles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 08:32 Talin wrote:On May 20 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:
You have my sword. And you have my bow. and Myyyy Axe!
So... where are we going?
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Isn't good = eudaimonia, which roughly means the good life. The virtues are means to obtaining eudaimonia. Virtues are both desirable for themselves and as means to an end. I haven't read any of this in a while though.
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Plato was a fucking dumbass. He held ridicilous beliefs that have no evidence.
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On May 20 2011 08:47 platorepublic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 08:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
OP you should pose a question so there's something to discuss. I am interested. What is the form of good?
What is goodness?
The answer in this case isn't as important as asking the question. If you're asking the question you realise that no book, prophet or other self appointed expert has the answers.
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On May 20 2011 08:51 vOdToasT wrote:
Plato was a fucking dumbass. He held ridicilous beliefs that have no evidence.
that's a pretty mean thing to say about someone in his own blog...
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