• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:41
CEST 20:41
KST 03:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 212ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes35Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes HomeStory Cup In Early July
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 18850 users

Looking for advice

Blogs > Parx
Post a Reply
Parx
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
9 Posts
April 09 2011 05:43 GMT
#1
Hello to everyone,

I've just started playing Starcraft II recently... never really played RTSs before, other than Age of Empire II (and I sucked at it too, as far as I remember.... lol)

So, I'm advancing in single game, but I'm interested in start playing on multiplayer.

Right now, I've seen several Day9 videos, and I've been playing against the AI (medium), always losing by some margin. I already use some hotkeys and some group controls, but I'm not yet able to keep my attention in all the relevant aspects of macro and micro... in fact, specially micro.

Said that, I'd like to know what do u guys think it's the best choice regarding training... should I play against an easier AI? Or start playing practice matches against real players? Should I play on a slower speed? Or keep the faster one?

Any help is appreciated.

TIA.

Parx.

*
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
April 09 2011 05:47 GMT
#2
Medium AI is pretty bad already ><"

Just mass game and you'll get the hang of it. Soon you'll be able to beat AIs easily. Then I guess move to play other people.

Play on faster speed as it's the speed everyone uses.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 09 2011 06:02 GMT
#3
I'd say the thing that helped me most when I was lower-level was following a set build order. Try that out.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Korinai
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada413 Posts
April 09 2011 06:27 GMT
#4
The most important thing to get down when you're just starting is your macro (micro isn't too important until you're in diamond/masters). Constantly produce workers/units, keep your units low and remember to build overlords/pylons/supply depots. Also, get a solid build order that isn't cheese and just practice that over and over.

Good luck! You can add me on Starcraft if you have some questions, I'll help you if you can.
Kinesthetic.171
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Theclutch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States119 Posts
April 09 2011 06:30 GMT
#5
Find some pro replays (the ones from MLG would be good) and see the kind of builds and hotkey setup's they use and try to replicate that to the best of your ability. I'd suggest finding 1 build order per match up and practicing it against the very easy AI until you feel comfortable enough with it to take it on the ladder.

Don't worry about micro, you don't need it right now. Focus solely on macro. macro macro macro. It's way more important.

Finally, don;t be afraid to ladder! A lot of new players say they have some kind of fear of laddering, just do it and you'll never look back ^_^
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 09 2011 07:02 GMT
#6
go and play some players and have fun, no shame in being in bronze and you will find PLENTY of people your skill level to play against! As long as you work actively on your strategy and mechanics you will become better in no time.
Parx
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
9 Posts
April 09 2011 12:05 GMT
#7
I really appreciate all the advice, folks.

One of them, that I'm trying to follow but thats just hard to accomplish right now, is always produce workers/units (and, as a result, keep money low) (as protoss, btw).

The fact is that I continuously produce workers, but after the 5:00 or 6:00 mark my minerals skyrocket, and I start losing control of things... then, I really can't answer myself these questions: should I stop making workers at this point and spend the resources (for example, building even more Gateways)? Or the workers interruption will affect me later on?

Any advices on that specific topic?

Other than that, I really thank all of you guys for the support!

Parx
Knap4life
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Slovenia333 Posts
April 09 2011 14:26 GMT
#8
On April 09 2011 21:05 Parx wrote:
I really appreciate all the advice, folks.

One of them, that I'm trying to follow but thats just hard to accomplish right now, is always produce workers/units (and, as a result, keep money low) (as protoss, btw).

The fact is that I continuously produce workers, but after the 5:00 or 6:00 mark my minerals skyrocket, and I start losing control of things... then, I really can't answer myself these questions: should I stop making workers at this point and spend the resources (for example, building even more Gateways)? Or the workers interruption will affect me later on?

Any advices on that specific topic?

Other than that, I really thank all of you guys for the support!

Parx



Never stop building workers.About the money problem you just need to figure out how many production buildings can one base support.
mintiefresh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada52 Posts
April 09 2011 15:00 GMT
#9
Just play the game. Pick anything. Ladder..AI...team games... 1v1...doesn't matter... just enjoy yourself and mass game. fall in love with the game first. the rest will work itself out
Finskie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden412 Posts
April 09 2011 17:45 GMT
#10
On April 09 2011 21:05 Parx wrote:
I really appreciate all the advice, folks.

One of them, that I'm trying to follow but thats just hard to accomplish right now, is always produce workers/units (and, as a result, keep money low) (as protoss, btw).

The fact is that I continuously produce workers, but after the 5:00 or 6:00 mark my minerals skyrocket, and I start losing control of things... then, I really can't answer myself these questions: should I stop making workers at this point and spend the resources (for example, building even more Gateways)? Or the workers interruption will affect me later on?

Any advices on that specific topic?

Other than that, I really thank all of you guys for the support!

Parx


When you see your minerals spiraling you need to make more gates/tech, constantly producing _anything_ but what i think most people forget is about having a gameplan. What are you going to do this game? Usually when the loadingscreen hits or before i search for a match i just say to myself, "Im so going blinkstalkers and immortals this game", it helps alot just having a goal to follow.

Not to say that you shouldnt react to what your opponent is doing, that is still the point of the game.
Beating AI isnt very hard when you get the hang of some simple macro, you can usually win with just a handful of units.

Keep practicing! (And dont worry about micro very much, positioning and timings are much more important than controlling the units themselves.)
Violet.
Parx
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
9 Posts
April 09 2011 21:01 GMT
#11
I thank all of you that kindly answered some of my questions so far!

It's amazing the quantity (and the quality) of the information available not only here, but in many sites devoted to SC2. In fact, it seems I'll need some hundreds of games to get used to the basic stuff... lol. I think I'll track how many battle till I win a game against the medium AI...

I've never imagined that RTSs were so full of details and strategies like those available for Starcraft! XD
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 09 2011 21:05 GMT
#12
On April 09 2011 21:05 Parx wrote:
I really appreciate all the advice, folks.

One of them, that I'm trying to follow but thats just hard to accomplish right now, is always produce workers/units (and, as a result, keep money low) (as protoss, btw).

The fact is that I continuously produce workers, but after the 5:00 or 6:00 mark my minerals skyrocket, and I start losing control of things... then, I really can't answer myself these questions: should I stop making workers at this point and spend the resources (for example, building even more Gateways)? Or the workers interruption will affect me later on?

Any advices on that specific topic?

Other than that, I really thank all of you guys for the support!

Parx


A lot of things can make your resources go up, forgetting to make units out of your structures, supply blocks, etc. Prevent those things. Another thing to learn is how many unit-producing structures you can produce off of with the amount of income you have.

-Don't get supply blocked
-Make units constantly (while avoiding queuing)
-Make enough structures
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Parx
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
9 Posts
April 10 2011 17:26 GMT
#13
Just want to give a quick update... I finally won 3 games against the AI!!! One against each race.

In all of them I played as protoss, and used Zealot rush, coupled with some Immortals, if necessary.

I can be wrong, but the AI seems not very prepared for a rush (unless if it's zerg, and in that case I had to be as fast as I can to prevent a counter attack).

Anyway, in two of the games that I lost, my minerals were depleted before I could establish an expansion, and I couldnt advance further... seems I have to pay attention in that neglected aspect also... XD
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:00
XXIX - Group Stage Day 1
TaKeTV3688
ComeBackTV 983
TaKeSeN 353
IndyStarCraft 277
SteadfastSC256
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 277
SteadfastSC 256
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19593
Mini 966
910 30
Aegong 27
Rock 18
IntoTheRainbow 15
Bale 15
NaDa 12
Dota 2
Gorgc3361
Counter-Strike
fl0m1827
kRYSTAL_56
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox274
Mew2King75
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu219
Other Games
Grubby2699
B2W.Neo566
C9.Mang0128
ArmadaUGS103
ToD99
Trikslyr64
UpATreeSC37
JuggernautJason12
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream148
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 81
• mYiSmile124
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 14
• FirePhoenix14
• Michael_bg 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4337
• TFBlade1020
Other Games
• imaqtpie860
• Shiphtur450
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 19m
HomeStory Cup
16h 19m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
HomeStory Cup
1d 16h
OSC
1d 18h
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.