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Is it worth it, Sean Plott?

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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 06 2011 11:52 GMT
#1
I'm trying to do the new Funday Monday where you announce the 3 units that you make for the rest of the game...

So far it's been loss after rape after loss.

I've had 1 win so far, it was a ZvZ and I was going roach hydra, and hit a nice hydra +1 timing.

It's so darn frustrating, making zealots to kill mutalisks, and marauders, and hellions to kill banshee/viking. I've certainly cursed the name of Sean Plott and Uniden on multiple occasions.

But alas, I diverge.
After one game of losing TERRIBLY, post match chat reveals
RunnerJimbob: you certainlhy made for a more entertaining and friendly morning. Appreciate it. GG

Ah. That's what Funday Monday is about.

It is worth it Sean Plott. Having FUN. I'll try to remember that and smile and chuckle viciously as I get demoted to Platinum any time soon. :D

***
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
April 06 2011 11:57 GMT
#2
Wasn't that funday monday was supposed to be for 3v3s and 4v4s, not 1v1s?
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
April 06 2011 12:00 GMT
#3
This is last night's new Funday Monday. It's a monobattle but for 1v1s.

State the three units you'll only be making the entire game (workers/queens/ovies/observers excluded). That's it!
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 06 2011 12:03 GMT
#4
Banes don't do very well against blue flame hellions and banshees. :[
Loss again. :D
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 06 2011 12:12 GMT
#5
Well, I'm going to try a few interesting things as protoss, assuming i can get an expansion up and running without stalkers...

GL with yours, and if i do manage to win with mine, it probably won't be impressive enough to show on the daily.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10850 Posts
April 06 2011 12:19 GMT
#6
Why not just:
Zealot/Stalker/Sentri.
4 Gate or 6 Gate?

Tons of P's do nothing else so...
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 06 2011 12:25 GMT
#7
On April 06 2011 21:19 Velr wrote:
Why not just:
Zealot/Stalker/Sentri.
4 Gate or 6 Gate?

Tons of P's do nothing else so...


That's boring...

I did just win vs a T going zeal sentry DT though.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
April 06 2011 12:26 GMT
#8
I think the idea is he wants you to mess around with timings. Zealots counter mutalisks by attacking before they're out. Don't think in terms of unit counters, think in terms of build counters.

Obviously you'll miss your attack timings a bunch since you aren't used to it but thats the point, by doing this you'll learn to think in wider terms than unit composition and thats what he tries to do with his funday mondays.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 06 2011 12:31 GMT
#9
On April 06 2011 21:25 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 21:19 Velr wrote:
Why not just:
Zealot/Stalker/Sentri.
4 Gate or 6 Gate?

Tons of P's do nothing else so...


That's boring...

I did just win vs a T going zeal sentry DT though.


The problem with DTs is that if you say you are going for them, any smart terran will throw up turrets.

I'm thinking more something along the line of WARP PRISM, ZEALOT, IMMORTAL or something.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 12:43:43
April 06 2011 12:42 GMT
#10
On April 06 2011 21:31 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 21:25 mizU wrote:
On April 06 2011 21:19 Velr wrote:
Why not just:
Zealot/Stalker/Sentri.
4 Gate or 6 Gate?

Tons of P's do nothing else so...


That's boring...

I did just win vs a T going zeal sentry DT though.


The problem with DTs is that if you say you are going for them, any smart terran will throw up turrets.

I'm thinking more something along the line of WARP PRISM, ZEALOT, IMMORTAL or something.


He did throw up turrets. But I scouted reactor rax so I stole gas. He had to fast expand and make LOTS of marines. Sentry forcefield forcefield, gg.

Then again not all Terrans know that you're actually going to make DTs when you just say it.,
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 06 2011 12:43 GMT
#11
On April 06 2011 21:26 TheLink wrote:
I think the idea is he wants you to mess around with timings. Zealots counter mutalisks by attacking before they're out. Don't think in terms of unit counters, think in terms of build counters.

Obviously you'll miss your attack timings a bunch since you aren't used to it but thats the point, by doing this you'll learn to think in wider terms than unit composition and thats what he tries to do with his funday mondays.


It's really hard trying to break roach ling spines with zealots and sentry... But it's still fun. :D kind of.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
OmniscientSC2
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States713 Posts
April 06 2011 13:32 GMT
#12
Most standard matchups revolve around 3 units :X
ZvT:
Large Maps: Ling/Infestor/Ultra
Medium Sized Maps: Muta/Ling/Bling
Small Maps: Ling/Bling/Roach

ZvZ: Roach/Ling/Infestor
ZvP: Roach/Ling/Corruptors ^^

I think it's also good, because instead of transitioning into a different unit, you can just try burrow timings, drop timings, and upgrade timings out :O
"Did you know about Day and the Wicker Basket?" - Harem "Hi, I'm from Texas." -TLO
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
April 06 2011 13:41 GMT
#13
Reactor ready!

Marine/hellion/viking. Should play around with just those three units.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 06 2011 13:55 GMT
#14
On April 06 2011 22:32 OmniscientSC2 wrote:
Most standard matchups revolve around 3 units :X
ZvT:
Large Maps: Ling/Infestor/Ultra
Medium Sized Maps: Muta/Ling/Bling
Small Maps: Ling/Bling/Roach

ZvZ: Roach/Ling/Infestor
ZvP: Roach/Ling/Corruptors ^^

I think it's also good, because instead of transitioning into a different unit, you can just try burrow timings, drop timings, and upgrade timings out :O


I'm playing random thus far. TvT,

For T, I go Marauder, Hellion, Banshee.
No anti air, auto lose to banshees even with turrets. :[
Banshee harass in main then follow up with blue flame hellion in natural is SUPER strong holy cow.
(But I still haven't won with T)

For P, I got Zealot, Sentry, DT.
If I can get to DTs, usually I've won, and doesn't matter if they have detection. The tricky part is holding off banshees/roaches/mutas. I haven't had a PvP yet, but I imagine that it's going to suck.

For Z, I go Baneling, Muta, Ultra. I'm thinking of throwing in roach instead of muta cuz everything's so gas heavy. I do have quite a bit of fun with bane bombs though. :DD

I'll try to mix it up and not be so... standard. But it's pretty hard in diamond when most people have a pretty good idea of what they're doing.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 06 2011 13:56 GMT
#15
On April 06 2011 22:41 iaguz wrote:
Reactor ready!

Marine/hellion/viking. Should play around with just those three units.


That actually sounds like a really good composition... I'll try it out!
0 gas usage though. I suppose that's a good thing.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
OmniscientSC2
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States713 Posts
April 06 2011 14:09 GMT
#16
If you announce baneling, you can't use zergling to attack, correct? Maybe that's why you're losing
If you go: Hey! I'm going to use a unit that kills off any marines you throw at me, but don't 2 rax! into a unit that takes about 6-7 minutes to get onto the field, I don't think it's possible to harass with mutas while holding on with just banelings ><

As for Protoss; you announce using DTs and your opponents don't get detection!? D:
"Did you know about Day and the Wicker Basket?" - Harem "Hi, I'm from Texas." -TLO
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
April 06 2011 14:17 GMT
#17
On April 06 2011 23:09 OmniscientSC2 wrote:
As for Protoss; you announce using DTs and your opponents don't get detection!? D:

There's a lot more you can do with DTs than just rushing to them and hoping your oppent has no detection.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10850 Posts
April 06 2011 14:27 GMT
#18
What could be fun:
Terran -> Marine/Viking/Battlecruiser
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 14:29:29
April 06 2011 14:28 GMT
#19
On April 06 2011 23:09 OmniscientSC2 wrote:
If you announce baneling, you can't use zergling to attack, correct? Maybe that's why you're losing
If you go: Hey! I'm going to use a unit that kills off any marines you throw at me, but don't 2 rax! into a unit that takes about 6-7 minutes to get onto the field, I don't think it's possible to harass with mutas while holding on with just banelings ><

As for Protoss; you announce using DTs and your opponents don't get detection!? D:


I'm assuming so yes.
I don't usually pull my lings until I've morphed them. I've actually had pretty good success with banes.

And usually my opponents do get detection, but you have to realize that it's quite hard not to over do detection while still staying ahead even though you know the units they're making. DTs force portable detection as well as stationary detection in mineral lines as well as a constant fear of expanding and moving out. I found it's really effective to be totally aggressive with 2-3 gates on full wg production and then switch to DTs with the extra gas. It throws them off completely.

I just found out that marine/medivac/hellion loses HARD to banes/roaches/ultas.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Ephemerality
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
April 06 2011 15:44 GMT
#20
The point of funday monday is, as you pointed out FUN! Go for something wacky like zergling, corruptor, ultralisk or stalker, carrier, mothership That's what I would do if I wasn't way behind in my homework and if I had my mouse...
FIGHT APATHY... or don't
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