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No more salt in Chinese cities

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DarkwindHK
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong343 Posts
March 17 2011 03:18 GMT
#1
Ever since the earthquake in Japan, there are so many rumors in China that it cause even more panic then Japan.

People stop buying sea fish since a few days ago and now they are even rushing to buy iodine, iodine salt and even normal table salt!!

The rumor is spreading so fast that all super markets in the bigger cities sold out their salt in mere hours(including normal salt, as people fear the sea is too polluted to produce salt from). If people even use their brain for a few seconds they should know it is completely illogical; if the sea is polluted that seriously, you will probably die already, why would you need salt? Ironically this rumor spread quickest in coastal cities!!

This is so ridiculously stupid, people in Japan are much more calm in every way. Sometimes I really feel ashamed to be Chinese. What have happened with them?


If you know Chinese you can read the articles:
http://news.wenweipo.com/2011/03/17/NN1103170004.htm
http://www.chinareviewnews.com/doc/1016/3/0/9/101630938.html?coluid=7&kindid=0&docid=101630938&mdate=0317102043



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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 17 2011 03:21 GMT
#2
Thats pretty ridiculous...T____T

Don't know what else to say. Japanese are really calm and pro
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 17 2011 03:24 GMT
#3
I thought this was gonna be related to the recent fake salt incident.
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Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
March 17 2011 03:24 GMT
#4
it said on the news that the Japanese were lining up for water/food/things peacefully one day, and my mom was amazed. She said that if it was china people would be scrambling for food.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 03:37:55
March 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#5
No reason to be ashamed, but I have a lot of respect for Japanese culture and how it serves them in times of strife. People say Canadians are polite, but I think that title belongs 100x more to the Japanese. Although I guess one might say there's a difference between etiquette and politeness.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
March 17 2011 03:38 GMT
#6
I think its to do with the fact that Japan filled their reactors with sea water to shut it down (causing the creation of hydrogen and explosions in the process).

But yeah pretty hilarious.
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DarkwindHK
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong343 Posts
March 17 2011 03:55 GMT
#7
I wonder what kind of radioactive fish can swim so fast... that it can reach South China Sea in just one day. May be radiation can make a fish into a super fish?

Dont be too humble, you are not that great.
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
March 17 2011 04:19 GMT
#8
Perhaps they're buying salt to salt the fish they still have to preserve it? Then again I've never eaten preserved fish...

Or maybe they're buying the salt thinking that the salt comes from the ocean/sea. The salt in the market isn't even manufactured by evaporating sea water, most of it is mined.

Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 17 2011 04:22 GMT
#9
In regards to KI, (potassium iodide) it actually only protects against certain forms of cancer if taken in a certain time frame. Not to mention it screws up your thyroid if you take too much.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 17 2011 04:46 GMT
#10
This is because China has always had extremely weak food safety regulations. Most people in China knows that the government won't care about selling radioactive fish, so they had to take matters into their own hands, however stupid this may sound to us.
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canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
March 17 2011 05:01 GMT
#11
Basically you can ingest a large dose of Iodine and it will protect you from radiation. However, one is only allowed to do this once in his/her lifetime because of damages that it can do to your body (At least I think this is the reason - otherwise it just becomes ineffective). In other words, buying iodine is incredibly stupid and is in no way a solution to avoiding any radiation hazards.

As to those who are buying just regular NaCl table salt.... *facepalm
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
March 17 2011 05:08 GMT
#12
On March 17 2011 13:46 Sufficiency wrote:
This is because China has always had extremely weak food safety regulations. Most people in China knows that the government won't care about selling radioactive fish, so they had to take matters into their own hands, however stupid this may sound to us.


Well I just read on the front page of the Globe and Mail today that China will be scanning fish imports for radiation. I'm sure that a few boatloads will still get through because of corruption.
loving it
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada271 Posts
March 17 2011 05:10 GMT
#13
I'm sure this shortage of salt won't last for long. Either the media stops hyping about the radiation levels or the government steps in if salt really does get to the point of being hoarded by people, which is unlikely anyways. Atleast they'll have soy sauce as an alternative to seasoning their food.
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DarkwindHK
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong343 Posts
March 17 2011 05:10 GMT
#14
http://news.mingpao.com/20110317/ca__17ca402.jpg

For the English speakers:
This is not Japan, this is Chinese buying salt!!

May be panic does grow exponentially with population...
Dont be too humble, you are not that great.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 05:16:01
March 17 2011 05:15 GMT
#15
one of my friends tripped and hurt her knees because she was trying to run toward the building when it rained yesterday ... i was like "wtf it's not even that heavy" ... covered in tears, she said "radiation ... japan ... it hurts .... "

i facepalmed
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 05:37:27
March 17 2011 05:30 GMT
#16
On March 17 2011 14:15 nayumi wrote:
one of my friends tripped and hurt her knees because she was trying to run toward the building when it rained yesterday ... i was like "wtf it's not even that heavy" ... covered in tears, she said "radiation ... japan ... it hurts .... "

i facepalmed

yeah, how people in Vietnam worry about radiation is beyond me.
Vnexpress should really verify their source before posting those fearmongering articles.
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Terran
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 17 2011 05:31 GMT
#17
The main reason people are buying salt is that the salt in the supermarkets was harvested before the nuclear accident. I mean I wouldn't queue for hours just to buy salt, but if in a few months you have no way to know whether the salt you're buying is irradiated or not, calling a whole country stupid is probably a little extreme.

You know, restaurants who offer Japanese mineral water are buying big supplies for the same reason.

Iodine does prevent from thyroid cancer, but I think that the amount of salt you'd need to eat to get a significant amount of iodine would hurt even more than radiations lol. (iodine pills used to prevent cancers are 65mg, while a table spoon of iodized salt contains 0.4mg of iodine, I let you calculate how much salt you need to eat :D)
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TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
March 17 2011 05:33 GMT
#18
On March 17 2011 14:15 nayumi wrote:
one of my friends tripped and hurt her knees because she was trying to run toward the building when it rained yesterday ... i was like "wtf it's not even that heavy" ... covered in tears, she said "radiation ... japan ... it hurts .... "

i facepalmed


Haha, that made me laugh.

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chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
March 17 2011 05:45 GMT
#19
I feel so sorry for all the people who are terrified about nuclear radiation, especially in countries as far as Vietnam! I really really really wish the international media could have been a little more sober about the whole thing and explained things clearly. It's caused people so many problems and so much unnecessary upset.

I hope media organizations get the opportunity to reflect on the whole process after its all over and see how to handle such things appropriately next time there is a nuclear accident somewhere.
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Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
March 17 2011 06:12 GMT
#20
My dad actually mentioned something similar to me earlier, about how the people in Japan are reacting a lot better than people elsewhere in the world might.
They're not attacking each other or fighting each other, they're all so respectful compared to (my father said this) the people in say the States or even here in Canada.


But the idea that they're going to run out of Salt.. xD
If the sea is so polluted that they won't be able to get any salt, most likely the water is going to be just as bad! Haha.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 17 2011 06:17 GMT
#21
As ridiculous as you may think it is please don't generalize all Chinese people are crazy because they're buying salt
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MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 06:38:36
March 17 2011 06:28 GMT
#22
On March 17 2011 12:18 DarkwindHK wrote:


The rumor is spreading so fast that all super markets in the bigger cities sold out their salt in mere hours(including normal salt, as people fear the sea is too polluted to produce salt from). If people even use their brain for a few seconds they should know it is completely illogical; if the sea is polluted that seriously, you will probably die already, why would you need salt? Ironically this rumor spread quickest in coastal cities!!


Although the majority of casualties from radiation poisoning will occur within the initial days of exposure, the subsidiary effects never fade. An average person absorbs about 10 röntgens in his lifetime from background radiation. At round zero in the Chernobyl meltdown, the radiation exposure was 5 röntgens per second. That kind of exposure would kill you within minutes, but absorption of hundreds of röntgens among thousands of liquidators at Chernobyl still caused a variety of effects ranging from latent radiation burns and death within days to long-term lung failures and cancers. Basically being exposed to mildly high levels of radiation could considerably decrease your life-expectancy, even when it doesn't kill you outright.

There are other worrisome parallels to the Chernobyl incident presently. There are very few reliable reports of radiation readings coming out of Japan at the moment, and apparently the Japanese Ministry of Health raised the minimum acceptable radiation dosage five-fold in the aftermath of this disaster, exactly the same measure taken in the Soviet Union 25 years ago.

At the present time, radiation is still being emitted AFAIK, and two days ago, there were radiation readings around Unit 3 to the order of 400 msv per hour. Under those conditions, a person could probably be exposed for one hour safely, and about 10 hours before immediate mortal danger.

Edit: Apparently since yesterday the readings around Unit 3 have gone up to 1000 msv per hour. It's still increasing.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 17 2011 06:51 GMT
#23
On March 17 2011 15:28 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 12:18 DarkwindHK wrote:


The rumor is spreading so fast that all super markets in the bigger cities sold out their salt in mere hours(including normal salt, as people fear the sea is too polluted to produce salt from). If people even use their brain for a few seconds they should know it is completely illogical; if the sea is polluted that seriously, you will probably die already, why would you need salt? Ironically this rumor spread quickest in coastal cities!!


Although the majority of casualties from radiation poisoning will occur within the initial days of exposure, the subsidiary effects never fade. An average person absorbs about 10 röntgens in his lifetime from background radiation. At round zero in the Chernobyl meltdown, the radiation exposure was 5 röntgens per second. That kind of exposure would kill you within minutes, but absorption of hundreds of röntgens among thousands of liquidators at Chernobyl still caused a variety of effects ranging from latent radiation burns and death within days to long-term lung failures and cancers. Basically being exposed to mildly high levels of radiation could considerably decrease your life-expectancy, even when it doesn't kill you outright.

There are other worrisome parallels to the Chernobyl incident presently. There are very few reliable reports of radiation readings coming out of Japan at the moment, and apparently the Japanese Ministry of Health raised the minimum acceptable radiation dosage five-fold in the aftermath of this disaster, exactly the same measure taken in the Soviet Union 25 years ago.

At the present time, radiation is still being emitted AFAIK, and two days ago, there were radiation readings around Unit 3 to the order of 400 msv per hour. Under those conditions, a person could probably be exposed for one hour safely, and about 10 hours before immediate mortal danger.

Edit: Apparently since yesterday the readings around Unit 3 have gone up to 1000 msv per hour. It's still increasing.


I am not a physics or nuclear chemistry major so I don't know: but can this incident even produce isotopes of sodium or chlorine?

It seems to me that even this is possible, they don't stay in the body for long. This is a bit different from iodine.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 17 2011 07:18 GMT
#24
傻逼。。。
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 17 2011 11:29 GMT
#25
On March 17 2011 16:18 evanthebouncy! wrote:
傻逼。。。

lol, thats not kind man.
You mean this to the OP or the people OP talking about
Terran
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 17 2011 12:01 GMT
#26
On March 17 2011 16:18 evanthebouncy! wrote:
傻逼。。。


Please refer to TL.net Ten Commandments. May God have mercy on your soul.
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fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 12:17:39
March 17 2011 12:17 GMT
#27
people are panicking because of misinformation, not because of their ethnicity. perhaps you should be blaming the sensationalist press instead of the general chinese population? as an aside, this premature "panic mode" isn't just in china, as i'm sure you've heard pharmacies in the US and canada have been getting increased inquiries into iodine pills.
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