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Hi TL, once again I call upon your wisdom!
How much weight do you put in your dreams? The reason I ask is that for years and years I have been having recurring dreams. There are two of them that I have every single night.
The first is that my entire family suddenly dies, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles. They die in a number of different ways, but I always remember it in freaky detail when I wake up.
The second is that everyone close to me has killed me at one point. Parents, girlfriends, co-workers, friends. Pretty much everyone has killed me in my dreams. Sometimes I wake up not being able to breath and in horrible pain from being stabbed/shot etc, other times I die in the dream and see a funeral, etc etc.
It even borders on the ridiculous. I watched Jinro's GSL games before bed. When I was sleeping I dreamt that he showed up outside my apartment in a banshee and shot me with the missile thingers.
Should I read anything into these dreans? Some co-workers think that I should talk to someone about it. It has never bothered me before. I've always wrote them off as being dreams.
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i remember about 5 dreams a year, which basically is never. So for me, none.
it kinda sounds like you watch a lot horror/splatter movies? :D
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You might want to see a therapist to see if they have anything to say. It doesn't mean you're crazy or unbalanced or anything but you might have some attitude/emotional issue that's just causing your dreams to suck.
I know some people see dreams as prophetic or something. I don't put any stock in that whatsoever.
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On February 26 2011 06:11 Turgid wrote:
You might want to see a therapist to see if they have anything to say. It doesn't mean you're crazy or unbalanced or anything but you might have some attitude/emotional issue that's just causing your dreams to suck.
I know some people see dreams as prophetic or something. I don't put any stock in that whatsoever.
Yeah I'm the same, never put any stock in it. But the way my co-workers reacted when I told them about it got me thinking.
@mrd - I don't watch any horror/slasher movies at all. They freak me out!
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well then maybe you should try to get used to it a little, maybe you will sleep better if these thoughts don't permanently freak you out while sleeping or something? just theorizing here but maybe you won't remember the stuff as much when your mind is more used to it while dreaming?
probably just bs, but who knows ^^
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I think dreams are like your subconcious trying to figure shit out in abstract ways. They mean something but I'm not qualified to interpret that kind of stuff.
I normally remember/get them when I go to sleep relaxed, or sleep for a long time, so it's weird bad shit happens in yours.
One time I dreamed that I was drowned or couldn't breath in some way and I woke up and my blanket was stuck over my mouth in a way I couldn't breath properly so I had to move it. Creepy.
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I think its pretty obvious that your room is haunted.
OR
You are secretly a suicidal serial killer.
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While I think the idea of dreamsigns and symbols having direct meanings (elephant = x) is complete BS I do put a level of stock in recurring dreams. We often dream about things that happened recently or are on our mind, so recurring dreams can indicate problems, concerns, or worries that are troubling us.
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I had a few dreams where I was dating the girl I liked at the moment and had sex with them and all that stuff.
Never done any of that with anybody. Weirded me out big time every time I had those dreams.
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1BkvRj00o
YEEEEEEAAAAH! DREAMS!
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On February 26 2011 06:24 L_Master wrote:
While I think the idea of dreamsigns and symbols having direct meanings (elephant = x) is complete BS I do put a level of stock in recurring dreams. We often dream about things that happened recently or are on our mind, so recurring dreams can indicate problems, concerns, or worries that are troubling us.
On February 26 2011 06:20 Slayer91 wrote:
One time I dreamed that I was drowned or couldn't breath in someway and I woke up and my blanket was stuck over my mouth in a way I couldn't breath properly so I had to move it. Creepy.
This sort of thing happens all the time. Stimuli from waking life are readily incorporated into dreams. In fact that is the entire basis for Lucid Dream induction type products such as the Nova Dreamer (detects REM sleep eye movement and then emits flashes of light).
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Yeah I can easily see how dreams can refelct recent stuff or trauma and such. I've probably had these same dreams since I was 16-17 (I'm 26 now). Some of my co-workers think that they mean that subconscously I have trust/betrayal issues.
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LOL my dreams are very important to me. They are dramatic and detailed and usually the me in dream always have some certain features, thus those dreams are like another life LOL but I just take them for some exciting adventures and enjoy them (I do get chased around by killers and see everyone gets killed sometimes tho) i don't think you should take it seriously and I think most of the time trying to read dreams is pretty useless.
Just enjoy them. write them down into stories or something. It might turn out to be quite entertaining.
;D
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I have pretty weird dreams i remember sometimes but i have these weeks where i dream about having sick (awesome) porn sex with random girls and it messes me up all day when i had one ))
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one time i had a dream that I was pissing in some ocean while swimming. in actuality i was pissing in my bed. dreams are fairly accurate!
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My dreams tend to have a link with what's going on in my life. Sometimes they give an interesting perspective. The real eerie thing is when I try to remember something and I'm not sure whether it happened in a dream or in real life :-S
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I Dont know why but i dream nearly every 3 times a week, not having nightmares but when i was maybe 5-7 I used to have dreams about batman being bad and killing innocents. that blow my mind cause i love batman.
Sometimes i dream about games. its really sick when you find out new build and its actually working (10 secret hatch into 14 pool is awesome :D)
And ofc I dream about having nasty sex but i hate this kind of dreams cause after i wake up i feel so bad 
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On February 26 2011 07:07 MisteR wrote:
My dreams tend to have a link with what's going on in my life. Sometimes they give an interesting perspective. The real eerie thing is when I try to remember something and I'm not sure whether it happened in a dream or in real life :-S
That already happened to me several times. Pretty strange to remember doing something like doing a homework just to realize that you still have to do it because it was all a dream. The sad part is that homerwork actually was pretty good in the dream and you can't match it in real life. ^^
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On February 26 2011 06:30 Crais wrote:
Yeah I can easily see how dreams can refelct recent stuff or trauma and such. I've probably had these same dreams since I was 16-17 (I'm 26 now). Some of my co-workers think that they mean that subconscously I have trust/betrayal issues.
Do you?
The fact you have the same awful dream every night is obviously a sign that something is messing with your subconscient. Do you feel that apart from the dreams you have a fairly decent life and apart from the regular life problems you are happy?
If both awnsers are yes then I think you should talk to someone who knows what they are talking( not your co-workers).
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On February 26 2011 08:19 EdSlyB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2011 06:30 Crais wrote:
Yeah I can easily see how dreams can refelct recent stuff or trauma and such. I've probably had these same dreams since I was 16-17 (I'm 26 now). Some of my co-workers think that they mean that subconscously I have trust/betrayal issues. Do you? The fact you have the same awful dream every night is obviously a sign that something is messing with your subconscient. Do you feel that apart from the dreams you have a fairly decent life and apart from the regular life problems you are happy? If both awnsers are yes then I think you should talk to someone who knows what they are talking( not your co-workers).
Yeah I have a good normal life. I most likely will talk to someone who does know what they are talking about.
Thanks
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Over many years i have learnt to Lucid Dream.
That shit is unbelievably cash. Flying is awesome
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Others have already mentioned lucid dreaming. It's not only cool because of the flying though, you can interact with these dreams in different ways because of it.
Try looking into this! It might be a good solution and you could get rid of them. Once you're aware that a dream is a dream and somebody tries to kill you, you can simply laugh at it, knowing you cannot die. Try facing it, ask your killers questions, etc.
gl!
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I always seems to have these type of dreams most of the time:
I always seem to somehow getting lost where I'm suppose to be going
I forget to bring something to an important event (for example, forgetting ur passport at the airport)
I just forget what I"m suppose to do in the middle of doing something
and there r obviously some random dreams..
i hate these types of dreams
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On February 26 2011 11:01 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Others have already mentioned lucid dreaming. It's not only cool because of the flying though, you can interact with these dreams in different ways because of it.
Try looking into this! It might be a good solution and you could get rid of them. Once you're aware that a dream is a dream and somebody tries to kill you, you can simply laugh at it, knowing you cannot die. Try facing it, ask your killers questions, etc.
gl!
Lucid Dream Guide - A guide I actually wrote about Lucid Dreaming a few months ago for those of you that are interested.
Yes, Lucid Dreaming is a pretty incredible experience. Basically a Lucid Dream is a dream in which the dreamer is aware that he is dreaming. While many people think of lucid dreams as a great way to have fun with things like flying, sex, exploration, adventure, etc; the practical side frequently isn't realized or ignored.
Lucid Dreams are extremely useful for things such as athletic practice, therapy, rehearsal, and even studying. Happy to answer any and all questions people have about Lucid Dreaming.
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I think dreams are visual manifestations of emotions that you have. Maybe you haven't figured shit out on your own, but deep down you feel them. I don't really believe that dreams=reality. Maybe a coincidence, but that's just some supernatural BS.
btw, does anyone here NOT dream regularly? I seem to have about 5 dreams a year. It's not that I don't remember them, I just do not dream at all. I've been dreaming a little more in the last few years but before I never did it. It's probably not a good thing considering that studies show that dreaming is an important aspect of sleeping.
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On February 26 2011 11:43 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2011 11:01 Xeofreestyler wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Others have already mentioned lucid dreaming. It's not only cool because of the flying though, you can interact with these dreams in different ways because of it.
Try looking into this! It might be a good solution and you could get rid of them. Once you're aware that a dream is a dream and somebody tries to kill you, you can simply laugh at it, knowing you cannot die. Try facing it, ask your killers questions, etc. gl! Lucid Dream Guide - A guide I actually wrote about Lucid Dreaming a few months ago for those of you that are interested. Yes, Lucid Dreaming is a pretty incredible experience. Basically a Lucid Dream is a dream in which the dreamer is aware that he is dreaming. While many people think of lucid dreams as a great way to have fun with things like flying, sex, exploration, adventure, etc; the practical side frequently isn't realized or ignored. Lucid Dreams are extremely useful for things such as athletic practice, therapy, rehearsal, and even studying. Happy to answer any and all questions people have about Lucid Dreaming.
cant i just day dream?
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On February 26 2011 11:50 buickskylark wrote:
I think dreams are visual manifestations of emotions that you have. Maybe you haven't figured shit out on your own, but deep down you feel them. I don't really believe that dreams=reality. Maybe a coincidence, but that's just some supernatural BS.
btw, does anyone here NOT dream regularly? I seem to have about 5 dreams a year. It's not that I don't remember them, I just do not dream at all. I've been dreaming a little more in the last few years but before I never did it. It's probably not a good thing considering that studies show that dreaming is an important aspect of sleeping.
No, you don't remember them. Everyone dreams.
There are basically two aspects of sleep. The deeper stages of sleep which are thought to be for recovery of the body, and then REM sleep. Of the two, REM sleep (dream sleep) is far more crucial. When people were deprived of REM sleep they become irritable, unable to focus, start feeling weak, etc. If it progresses they become unable to stay awake and beginning relapsing into sleep, dropping almost immediately into REM. Without REM sleep we cannot function whatsoever.
On February 26 2011 12:09 Shaka_Kon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2011 11:43 L_Master wrote:On February 26 2011 11:01 Xeofreestyler wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Others have already mentioned lucid dreaming. It's not only cool because of the flying though, you can interact with these dreams in different ways because of it.
Try looking into this! It might be a good solution and you could get rid of them. Once you're aware that a dream is a dream and somebody tries to kill you, you can simply laugh at it, knowing you cannot die. Try facing it, ask your killers questions, etc. gl! Lucid Dream Guide - A guide I actually wrote about Lucid Dreaming a few months ago for those of you that are interested. Yes, Lucid Dreaming is a pretty incredible experience. Basically a Lucid Dream is a dream in which the dreamer is aware that he is dreaming. While many people think of lucid dreams as a great way to have fun with things like flying, sex, exploration, adventure, etc; the practical side frequently isn't realized or ignored. Lucid Dreams are extremely useful for things such as athletic practice, therapy, rehearsal, and even studying. Happy to answer any and all questions people have about Lucid Dreaming. cant i just day dream?
A day dream isn't a dream though. I think we can all agree that day dreaming about flying is a significantly different experience than actually flying. And when it comes to things like athletic practice or rehearsal for a speech the vividness and realism is no where near the same (and in the case of athletic practice you don't send the nerve impulses to perform the activity when you are daydreaming).
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On February 26 2011 12:21 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2011 11:50 buickskylark wrote:
I think dreams are visual manifestations of emotions that you have. Maybe you haven't figured shit out on your own, but deep down you feel them. I don't really believe that dreams=reality. Maybe a coincidence, but that's just some supernatural BS.
btw, does anyone here NOT dream regularly? I seem to have about 5 dreams a year. It's not that I don't remember them, I just do not dream at all. I've been dreaming a little more in the last few years but before I never did it. It's probably not a good thing considering that studies show that dreaming is an important aspect of sleeping. No, you don't remember them. Everyone dreams. There are basically two aspects of sleep. The deeper stages of sleep which are thought to be for recovery of the body, and then REM sleep. Of the two, REM sleep (dream sleep) is far more crucial. When people were deprived of REM sleep they become irritable, unable to focus, start feeling weak, etc. If it progresses they become unable to stay awake and beginning relapsing into sleep, dropping almost immediately into REM. Without REM sleep we cannot function whatsoever.
Just did a little research based on what you said and I think you could be wrong according to this:
http://psychology.ucsc.edu/dreams/FAQ/index.html
In extreme cases of excessive dream recall, or no dream recall at all, there may be chemical imbalances at work. We think we know this because some medications lead people to report to physicians that they are remembering more dreams, and that the dreams are very vivid and realistic, and sometimes very scary.
In extreme cases of no recall, still another thing may be going on. These people may be dreaming very little or not at all. That probably sounds unlikely to most of you who heard growing up that everyone dreams at least during the four or five Rapid Eye Movement (REM) periods of the night. But the people who did that research in the 1950s and early 1960s may have jumped the gun a little because they hadn't studied the full range of people. Based on recent studies, including one using low recallers who were very low on visuospatial skills, it now seems probable again that some people don't dream.
Moreover, some people who suffer lesions in specific parts of the brain are known to lose their ability to dream for varying periods of time. These unusual cases show that it is possible to have the usual amount of REM sleep -- about 20-25% of the night -- and not dream. And to be mentally healthy without ever dreaming.
I don't know if there's a difference between seldom dreaming or not dreaming at all, but not being able to dream seems to indicate mental health issues. Knowing myself, that could very well be true.
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On February 26 2011 12:38 buickskylark wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2011 12:21 L_Master wrote:On February 26 2011 11:50 buickskylark wrote:
I think dreams are visual manifestations of emotions that you have. Maybe you haven't figured shit out on your own, but deep down you feel them. I don't really believe that dreams=reality. Maybe a coincidence, but that's just some supernatural BS.
btw, does anyone here NOT dream regularly? I seem to have about 5 dreams a year. It's not that I don't remember them, I just do not dream at all. I've been dreaming a little more in the last few years but before I never did it. It's probably not a good thing considering that studies show that dreaming is an important aspect of sleeping. No, you don't remember them. Everyone dreams. There are basically two aspects of sleep. The deeper stages of sleep which are thought to be for recovery of the body, and then REM sleep. Of the two, REM sleep (dream sleep) is far more crucial. When people were deprived of REM sleep they become irritable, unable to focus, start feeling weak, etc. If it progresses they become unable to stay awake and beginning relapsing into sleep, dropping almost immediately into REM. Without REM sleep we cannot function whatsoever. Just did a little research based on what you said and I think you could be wrong according to this: http://psychology.ucsc.edu/dreams/FAQ/index.htmlShow nested quote +In extreme cases of excessive dream recall, or no dream recall at all, there may be chemical imbalances at work. We think we know this because some medications lead people to report to physicians that they are remembering more dreams, and that the dreams are very vivid and realistic, and sometimes very scary.
In extreme cases of no recall, still another thing may be going on. These people may be dreaming very little or not at all. That probably sounds unlikely to most of you who heard growing up that everyone dreams at least during the four or five Rapid Eye Movement (REM) periods of the night. But the people who did that research in the 1950s and early 1960s may have jumped the gun a little because they hadn't studied the full range of people. Based on recent studies, including one using low recallers who were very low on visuospatial skills, it now seems probable again that some people don't dream.
Moreover, some people who suffer lesions in specific parts of the brain are known to lose their ability to dream for varying periods of time. These unusual cases show that it is possible to have the usual amount of REM sleep -- about 20-25% of the night -- and not dream. And to be mentally healthy without ever dreaming. I don't know if there's a difference between seldom dreaming or not dreaming at all, but not being able to dream seems to indicate mental health issues. Knowing myself, that could very well be true.
Interesting stuff. Hadn't come across any newer research that indicates it. I guess what's key here isn't that people don't have REM sleep, which is crucial, but rather that some isolated individuals may not, or may not be capable of, dreaming during REM sleep. Makes me wonder though, especially since it mentions people with low visuospatial skills, what is happening in their REM sleep as we know the activity of the brain is very similar to waking life.
Looks like I'll have to go hunt down some of the newer literature and keep myself up to speed.
Out of pure curiosity what makes you confident you don't dream? Seems like it would be a difficult thing to verify outside of a laboratory setting or having someone consistently awaken you during REM sleep to see if you remembered a dream.
As for the bolded part, the psychology FAQ you posted seems to indicate the opposite, that people can be 100% mentally healthy even if they aren't currently able to experience dreams.
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I just asked a lot of people and many tell me that they have dreams almost everynight. I on the other hand hardly ever. It might be due to my poor sleeping habits though. I always assumed that there was a correlation between my lack of dreaming and my personality.
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On February 26 2011 14:37 buickskylark wrote:
I just asked a lot of people and many tell me that they have dreams almost everynight. I on the other hand hardly ever. It might be due to my poor sleeping habits though. I always assumed that there was a correlation between my lack of dreaming and my personality.
Yea, but how do you know that you don't dream. Not remembering dreams and not dreaming would seem the exact same to the person in question. I'm just curious why you are confident its not a case of not remembering dreams.
And I think its unlikely that not dreaming, or even a lack of REM sleep would have an impact in overall personality.
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