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BenKen

United States860 Posts

February 13 2011 05:28 GMT

#21

Cheesing every 4th game no matter what sounds like fun actually. I like when people make up arbitrary restraints like that. Plus the idea of "sorry buddy, nothing personal, but you're my 4th game so i'm gonna do something horrible to you" is pretty funny. With this I have more incentive to play "legit" on the other three too, so the 4th game can be something I can look forward to (or dread).

Sometimes when i ladder I get caught in this wishy-washy mentality where every game I end up going sorta macro/sorta all-in, and it usually ends up in a loss or just at least an ugly game. Now I can tell myself "these three games I'm gonna go all out macro mode, shitload of bases, upgrades out the wazoo etc... and then game four someone's going down fast and hard, quite possibly me".

So no, I don't hate you, in fact I'll probably copy you.

FruitPunch41

United States2 Posts

February 13 2011 05:41 GMT

#22

[Only for rowing people: I pulled a 6:28 on a 2K as a lightweight!!!]

dude, congrats on the PR
what school do you row for?

Zamkis

Canada114 Posts

February 13 2011 05:50 GMT

#23

Vorce, if cheese is defeated by standard play, then it fails at doing what it is meant to do. Stopping cheese will oftentimes come down to luck in scouting your opponent's strategy in time, luck in BO that will be naturally stronger/weaker against certain cheeses, and decision making to change your standard play into defending cheese, which will usually bring you pretty far from a standard build down the road, if you manage to defend it. Simply saying that you're just not good enough if you can't defend cheese is pretty bold, almost ignorant, considering there's more then the skill-level of your standard play on the line.

SaLaYa

United States363 Posts

February 13 2011 06:34 GMT

#24

On February 13 2011 13:47 Spazer wrote:

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So basically you have to be faster to effectively micro your units? Sounds like good practice to me.

And what are you going to micro back in a 200/200 battle? Weak Stalkers? The micro in those big battles is limited to abilities as well as keeping weak void rays/Collosi in the back. And that isn't much of a challenge seeing as they just back up so easily because they fly/walk over other units.

red_hq

Canada450 Posts

February 13 2011 08:13 GMT

#25

I love to cheese as well and relate to that hearth thumping feeling and high you get while proxy gating, I cheese only on specific MUs on certain maps. ie:

ZvT on metal --> cheese
PvT on Xel --> cheese
PvP on Shakuras --> cheese

They change time to time as I get tired of PvX on Y map or feel like I really should explore a certain MU on a certain map, like today I played 4 PvP on shakuras in a row loosing three of them then winning the fourth, so that replaced my PvP on DQ --> Cheese.

Also whenever some one doesn't say GL HF back after the 1 minute mark I proceed to DT rush them, however if they become responsive before the 4 minute mark I shift into a blink stalker hallu push, and if neither works I double expand and proceed to BM toilet them.

BM toilet:
Get fucking everything Acrhon, Collo, Carriers, Moship, VR, Dts, etc, out macro them with ninja expos and then after your death ball eliminates about 3/4 of their army then pull back and show up at their front door shortly after, vortex their considerably smaller army and throw all of your units into as well, proceed to BM in chat while the vortex is doing its thang, then win.

I don't hate you infact i love it when players cheese me because I feel so gosu when I fend off cheese, and it helps learn how cheese is defeated.

Spazer

Canada8036 Posts

February 13 2011 08:43 GMT

#26

On February 13 2011 15:34 GlocKomA wrote:

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If microing such a large army is so simple, then why isn't everyone playing at a pro level? My point was that there will always be room for improvement when microing in large scale battles. Years ago, people thought engaging lurkers with marines in BW was suicide, but nowadays, progamers like Flash can split their marines in seconds and make it look easy. You won't improve if you don't try.

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