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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
February 11 2011 12:46 GMT
#1
...qualifiers!

So Thats my first blog entry, "The life of a simpleton".

I'm your casual e-sport addict gamer. I don't have the mechanics to play well, but I love the game and the sport aspect of it.

Despite my lack of mechanics, I do play zerg since I do believe it is the easiest race to macro. People will probably rage at me, but the reason that I believe it is the easiest to macro is simple: Supply.

IMO it is so simple to unblock supply with larva that I looove playing it. I'm getting used to larva inject nowadays, something not missing an inject until the 7-8 minute mark, where most battles begin, and creep spread isn't exactly hard: every time I inject, I spread the creep, like if that was automatic.


Anyways, as a simpleton non-progamer, or even better, as a mid-platinum player which has roughly 50% w:l, I'm going to the TSL qualifiers. The reason is simple: Heck why not? Its a 1024 player tournament and if I ever get past the ro512(or even ro1024), I think I'll have done my job. I just hope that I don't get someone like ROOTCatZ - my favorite player - right off the bat. Or better, I hope that I do, then I'll rest assured that I lost to someone really, really, really good.



On a side note, today I played the weirdest PvZ ever. Because I didnt properly position an overlord to scout him, I didn't see the DTs coming. When he attacked with 2 DTs in my main and a 4gate worth of units in my natural - on metalopolis - I sent a counter attack with lings, effectively destroying every single strucutre of his, except for one proxy pylon.

I lost both my main but I could rebuild myself on the other side of the map - which was close air for him - and throw down a spine and a spore crawler while I have 7 lings - because most died killing most of his forward pylons - and I just *hope* that it will take a while for him to notice my expo while I try to rebuild and get an overseer and roaches.

Too bad, the DTs arrive a second before the spore is done, and kill it in time. GG. The game was really weird IMO, but if only I had scouted those DTs, I'd have killed him easily, since I could hold his "4gate" with the exception of maybe 4 zealots, and DTs helped a lot there. Next time, position those overlords!


I won the next game tho, which was the worst matchup ever: ZvZ. Metalopolis cross-spawns again, I'm on the south and he is on the north. We both do that ZvZ style that Day9 focused on in one of his newbie tuesdays, which is a tight wall placement in the main going for fast roaches and lair. Since I scout this, what I do is expand right away. He decides to attack, but thanks to defender's advantage(name it: travel distances), my roaches end up winning the trade.

I proceed to drone since I scout an expansion, but he attacks and I don't have a good enough army. Defenders advantage and a few transfuses save me.

Then he proceeds to harass my gas with freaking mutalisks. I don't know why people still use muta in ZvZ on SC2, it is silly. I proceed to mass a roachhydra army when I scout a third of his, and I'm like "OH SHI-"

With a well-massed army I just say "whatever" and attack his third while expanding and throwing down infestation pit. If he used his mutas, he would probably kill all my drones, but that would mean the death of his low-gas army.

I proceed to attack his third and, with a beautiful spread, where half of his roaches trapped themlseves on the gas choke, I totally rape him. Then he brings his mutas, which killed my 3rd.

I proceed to kill his natural and every single tech structure of his besides his evo-chamber and his lair, then I realize I have no hydras anymore.

I proceed to retreat while I feel great, and get the third. In the middle of the battle, I macroed kinda o.k., and got a few hydras and infestors.

He uses all his 9 mutas to counter attack me, and I fungal two of them - damn unexpected delay - killing them. Since he has no other choice, he goes for my third again, and this time I fungal all of the mutas, throw down some infested terrans(don't ask me why I just didnt get my hydras) and faceroll at the dieing mutas. His army was now 3 roaches period. He gg's out.

That's why I believe mutalisks are crap in ZvZ. Not only infestors CRUSH them worse than a clump of thor+marines, hydralisks just roll them aswell and also have a really good synergy with roaches, while also working as anti-overlords and costing half of the gas. Oh, and much better DPS. Mutalisks are ok when you rush them and your oponent doesnt expect it, but other than that, getting mutas is just a "lol I'm wasting all my gas in this shitty unit that gets rolled by anything that shoots up, just so I force some cheaper, more effective defenses and maybe get a few drones while having no real army of whatsoever"-type unit.


Also, due to mutas, he couldn't upgrade past 1/1. I had 2/2, which is a huge deal in zvz.

♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
February 11 2011 13:52 GMT
#2
As a plat player you could make it through the first few rounds of TSL qualifier if you are lucky with the bracket, since a lot of < gold players play there, too.
Just try and enjoy your games. If you really get to play your favourite player, see it as a nice opportunity you wont get on ladder any time soon :p
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
vdek
Profile Joined May 2010
United States267 Posts
February 11 2011 14:22 GMT
#3
Good luck! I don't think I have a shot against the pros either, but why not do it :D
sikyon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1045 Posts
February 11 2011 15:45 GMT
#4
Mutas are effective if your opponent isn't using infestors - muta baneling rips apart roach hydra without infestor support. I have won against roach/hydra/infestor using bling/muta, but it required very very good muta spreads, and multi-pronged attacks where I assasinated his hydras with banelings while he was trying to fungal my mutas.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
February 11 2011 16:09 GMT
#5
Good luck, I hope you don't have to face me.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
February 11 2011 16:16 GMT
#6
On February 12 2011 00:45 sikyon wrote:
Mutas are effective if your opponent isn't using infestors - muta baneling rips apart roach hydra without infestor support. I have won against roach/hydra/infestor using bling/muta, but it required very very good muta spreads, and multi-pronged attacks where I assasinated his hydras with banelings while he was trying to fungal my mutas.


The point is, using infestors effectively is a million times easier than using mutas/blings the way you explain, and if one doesnt go infestor in a zvz he is pretty damn behind IMO, also because getting into t3 for the 3/3 upgrades is excelent.


Thanks for the support guys
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
February 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#7
I am only diamond and I am giving it a try also. I hope I get to win at least 1 game .
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