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I'm not judging anyone or spreading hate but I just gotta ask...
I'm sure some of you watch Korean Dramas, not just the funny or weird ones but I mean the lovey dovey melodrama ones.
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Well, I don't have a girlfriend right now so that's not what this thread is about. I do however have friends that are girls.
They love to watch these Korean Melodramas and sometimes they talk to me about it and I remember conversations with a bunch of my friends (that are girls), and they start to get sad... talk about how they don't know if they can trust love and all this crap.
How if they do find love, they want the guy to be like those Korean guys, at LEAST 180cm (5'11) tall, which isn't a stretch actually but they also want money, cars, adventure, all this drama stuff..
Now.. OF COURSE tv shows in all countries promote this. I am not saying Korean dramas really suck and they brainwash people. I am merely mentioning Korean Dramas because that happens to be the stuff my friends are watching..
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Anyway. Does anyone else feel though that all these feelings my friends are experiencing.. kind of.. weird?
That they let fictional tv shows affect them so much when it comes to trust, "love", that they would be so close minded in what kind of person they wanna date just because a tv show says so?
I mean... that is my main question.
Please do not think that I am bashing Korean Dramas and saying that North American stuff is better. That is NOT what I'm aiming for at all.
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I'm talking about tv shows in general, (and in this case Korean Dramas, only because that is the source that my friends are connected to)
*I talked about this to my Korean friends and they really have a lot to say about this. How real life is real life and that a lot of Korean girls that they know from Church or school or whatever tend to aim for the drama life style. Where it isn't a real relationship unless there's 2 rich guys chasing after her and that one of them has to get cancer or something. It's apparently really really ridiculous to date a girl who lets Korean dramas run her life.
  
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a lot of people have a hard time living in reality
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eventually, they'll grow up and realize life is a much better drama.
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First of a butload of soap operas have this kind of crap going on since the dawn of time. You may think its stupid, but then again there are LOADS of people who watch that stuff passionately. I think your female friends fall into that category.
That they let fictional tv shows affect them so much when it comes to trust, "love", that they would be so close minded in what kind of person they wanna date just because a tv show says so?
Second, you must realize that your friends aren't being brainwashed by Korean dramas, anymore so than anime-kids who love their animes at such a level that they think in a similar fashion as your female friends. In other words, your taking this too seriously, your friends are probably silly naive girls who are enjoying their romance stories, they will either grow out of it or get slapped in the face by reality soon enough.
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I've watched k-dramas for a long time now and occasionally I watch the sappy romantic one. I admit I'm a hopeless romantic and I think some people would like to have their love life like a korean drama. (nobody would want the cancer part >.>)
Yes I know its brainwashing girls and makes it impossible to actually "date" one cause all them have such high expectations, it just requires somebody to just burst their bubble
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Ah young padawan ... soon you'll learn what impresses women everywhere 
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LOL, that video is too funny. Kind of a dick move for the brother to post on youtube though.
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First, tell your friends they are stupid for not realizing the difference between real life and a korean drama. Second, tell them to get back to the real world before they spend their whole lives watching these dramas until they're 50 and still hoping for that tall man with cars and money to come sweep them off their feet. Third, pull out your penis and slap them with it for being stupid
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
NGL, Goong Princess and Boys over Flowers are the only 2 korean dramas I ever finished. The korean romantic stories are so good.
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lolz to that video. the "crazy" ones that watch those dramas live in their own world.
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Sad to say but a lot of people are so sucked into this that they believe the only correct way for guys to "romance" a girl is through what they saw in these dramas. Not only that but girls also have their standards inflated to the point where they expected the lifestyle of a princess to be provided to them. I have guy friends that tries to "teach" me with whatever drama they watched and now I absolutely avoid them because of how brainwashed they are.
Also, I have seen people's personality change after watching these dramas. They instantly persuaded themselves to become more like the protagonist/cool guy/cool girl and starts cliche drama scenarios
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so what is part 2, 3 and 4? =D
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Yeah, TV messes with peoples' heads. It's not good, but there is not much you can do about it, except perhaps wait until you have older/more mature friends.
A personal story: I grew up with a whole lot of aunts and uncles who are divorced or remarried. Talking with my mother about it one day, she mentioned that one aunt and most of my aunt's friends all got divorced around the same time. They all watched the same (Western) soap operas, and at the same time that they were getting divorced, all the characters in these soap operas were getting divorced. The soap operas probably weren't the reason my aunt and her friends got divorced, but my mother thought they did have some effect on how that group of people saw the world.
By the way, in my opinion crime shows and action movies are much worse than soap operas. They get people thinking in terms of "bad guys" who are "out there", while law enforcement people are heroes who are always on our side working against the bad guys. Meanwhile, in the real world police forces in NA get more and more militarized, swat teams raid random houses, burn stuff down, and sometimes shoot random people.
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Yo Secret Garden is no joke, it's almost like real life, except for the whole body switching thing.
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Didn't feel anything even after finishing secret garden.
Females are just more susceptible to tear-jerkers?
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LOL at that video. That guy finds enjoyment in the same things i do lol. I did that same thing to my brother once(minus the part about crying after watching kroean dramas)he just doesnt like to be tape recorded and it's funny cuz He knew i was recording him but had to stay calm cuz he didnt want his craziness to show on camera for me to show eveyrone lol. So he just stays quiet(mind u inside he's getting rdy to explode with anger)finds a piano book and throws it at my camera lol. I wish I still had it, much funnier if u saw it espcially when the piano book makes a loud "smack" on the camera lol.
but yea i do admit that guy is kind of a dick for doing that to his sister but still funny regardless :p
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Is american soap operas really that different from these?
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Perhaps not so, but the difference is that there's a much higher viewership rating of Kdramas than soaps in the U.S. The most popular dramas can have anywhere from a quarter to half of the country watching at the same time, while those numbers are impossible to reach even for very popular primetime TV shows in the U.S.
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What dramas are to Korean girls, Twilight is to a shit ton of American girls. They're all into vampires now!
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I hate them with a quiet, but all consuming passion (and I'm female in case anyone still doesn't know.) They're part of the reason I stopped watching Korean television in the first place. Especially the really sappy ones with stupid slapstick and/or female leads who are so incompetant that if they were real people they'd probably die just from walking down the street.
I also really dislike those kinds of 'harem' dramas where it's one girl, or one guy whom everyone falls for - even if it completely contradicts any logical character development or their personality in the show. That's just so puke-inducingly predictable.
I also hate western romantic/rom-com movies/dramas though. It's just such a boring genre to me, but some of the Kdramas I've tried have really encompassed everything that makes me want to switch off the television immediately. Give me a good horror/thriller/mystery movie/drama any day.
Thankfully, they're easy to avoid. (It was fun to be an extra in Secret Garden and Marry me Mary though.)
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Actually it's good--think about it this way
Assume you don't understand how to get a girl to like you, because a girl herself doesn't know what's "right" for a relationship. (true, most women are confused)
Then she watches a k-drama and it's like *bam* no digestion whatsoever she just accepts the drama as truth
Now you know what you have to do. All you have to do is watch half the drama (the part prior to the inevitable terminal illness) and you have like maphack on her brain. You can see exactly how she will react to every given situation.
Dramas create a common language for men and women to understand and date each other. They fulfill the same purpose as stone age fertility rituals.
And before you complain that these rituals set up stupid expectations of you, consider that they encourage you to be tender, kind, and considerate of the girl. Isn't that so much better than other reproductive memes, like, for example, the whole ideal of chivalric male honor, which once resulted in over two thousand dueling casualties in the United States South each year? I'd sure as hell take buying flowers to keep a girl over having to pistol whip or shoot some other dude over a perceived insult in order to keep my male honor intact
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That video made me lol, my mom does the same thing sadly... (crying over korean drama)
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My gf likes watching asian dramas also, although mostly Japanese ones.
Even so, she still puts up with me. I dress really dorky, play starcraft or MMOs most of the time, watch anime and manga, am not remotely romantic or spontaneous, have no money, own a shitty car, and never do anything new with her. >_<
lucky me lol
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omg, ahahaha
thanks so much for posting this. i'm definitely sending this to my friends who watch Kdramas..
this was hilarious..
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it's kind of shocking how easily people are manipulated when you think about it. All Kdramas follow a formula, and while the viewer knows this, can't help but get sucked in anyway. Makes you wonder if we have any ounce of will power and consciousness.
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romance dramas to girls are like sci-fi drama to guys.
except its easier to know that warp drives are made up... that's the problem.
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Is that you recording the video lololol if it is, so mean ahahaha
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On February 09 2011 14:44 l0st_romantic wrote:
Actually it's good--think about it this way
Assume you don't understand how to get a girl to like you, because a girl herself doesn't know what's "right" for a relationship. (true, most women are confused)
Then she watches a k-drama and it's like *bam* no digestion whatsoever she just accepts the drama as truth
Now you know what you have to do. All you have to do is watch half the drama (the part prior to the inevitable terminal illness) and you have like maphack on her brain. You can see exactly how she will react to every given situation.
Dramas create a common language for men and women to understand and date each other. They fulfill the same purpose as stone age fertility rituals.
And before you complain that these rituals set up stupid expectations of you, consider that they encourage you to be tender, kind, and considerate of the girl. Isn't that so much better than other reproductive memes, like, for example, the whole ideal of chivalric male honor, which once resulted in over two thousand dueling casualties in the United States South each year? I'd sure as hell take buying flowers to keep a girl over having to pistol whip or shoot some other dude over a perceived insult in order to keep my male honor intact
As a red-blooded man, I would rather lose my life in a duel than watch half a K-drama. No woman is worth that.
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Since I watch American tv/movies, I expect girls to be 5'10" or above, at least be C cups, have perfect hair, and be toned like a long distance runner.
Edit: and be funny and interesting and not have terrible personalities, I forgot about personalities.
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simply girls talking about girl things in their own context
for you to question them, or yourself because of this is L O L
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I know what you're talking about. I was a guy, and I used to be obsessed with these dramas. I really couldn't differentiate between real life and dramas. But now, I don't watch any, only ones that I really want to watch. It is really easy to become addicted. And yeah, the girls in Korea nowadays all think their some kind of princesses
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It's a nice fantasy, relax. Who doesn't want to lose themselves now and then in a make-believe world? I'm sure there are some people out there who can't differentiate between television and reality, but they're few and far between... unless I'm seriously overestimating humanity.
Two tall, rich, well educated, hot men fighting over me and coming up with elaborate romantic trips to try to win me over? Yeah that'd be nice. Likely to ever happen? Nope.
That being said, I've never watched any of these Kdramas, so maybe I'm not really sure what they're like.
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On February 09 2011 20:21 Rekrul wrote:
simply girls talking about girl things in their own context
for you to question them, or yourself because of this is L O L
pretty much
On February 10 2011 00:44 Haemonculus wrote:
I'm sure there are some people out there who can't differentiate between television and reality, but they're few and far between... unless I'm seriously overestimating humanity.
you'd think... but sometimes, I just don't know 
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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On February 09 2011 20:26 Tazza wrote:
I know what you're talking about. I was a guy, and...
Wait What? There has got to be an interesting story behind this.
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On February 10 2011 02:16 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2011 20:26 Tazza wrote:
I know what you're talking about. I was a guy, and... Wait What? There has got to be an interesting story behind this.
Guys have feelings too ya know :3
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On February 10 2011 02:26 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2011 02:16 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:On February 09 2011 20:26 Tazza wrote:
I know what you're talking about. I was a guy, and... Wait What? There has got to be an interesting story behind this. Guys have feelings too ya know :3
Was a guy.........
A new kdrama in the making?
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LOL! That vdeo is SOOOO hilarious...
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Hey, it goes both ways. If girls expect guys to all act like whatever perfect male protagonist they see in their dramas and be tall and rich and handsome, then I can expect all girls to be as pretty as Yoona.
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On February 10 2011 03:41 DTK-m2 wrote:
Hey, it goes both ways. If girls expect guys to all act like whatever perfect male protagonist they see in their dramas and be tall and rich and handsome, then I can expect all girls to be as pretty as Yoona.
The rest of society already sets up those expectations.
Even the housewives in cleaning product commercials are pretty, well kept, makeup, etc.
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If you cut out all the boring parts of any persons life you could probably fill 15 minutes a week of action packed stuff that happened (That is what I would guess the average screen time in a 23 minute episode of a main character). I mean it's like they think these characters doesn't do all the boring stuff everyone does. Or should TV just start showing them work a day job (like alot of them do) for 8 hours being bored to death before anything exciting happens just to make these people understand.
I also love the fact that they get attached to characters with as much personality as cardboard.
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MOST women have little to no idea what they really want cause most of the time its not what they need. Remember man its the girl not you the problem, there are many dumb chicks that shouldn't get even half of the attention they get. So don't worry about shit like that. There are much more interesting/easy chicks out there.
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Imo its pretty easy to tell if a korean girl is as affected by kdramas as you say.
At that point its also easy to just avoid them.
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ITT: Video game nerds making fun of TV nerds.
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It seems that Korean Dramas and girls are analogous to Korean Starcraft and guys. I guess neither may understand the other's passions...
Heck, Korea has it all, man. Kpop. Starcraft/e-sports. Kdramas. FUCKING KOREAN BBQ. It seems that everything that comes from that country ends up being popular and generally high quality (though Kpop and Kdramas are debatable).
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In some alternate Female dominated TeamLiquid.net alternate universe, a similar blogged was published excet "Kdrama" is replaced with "starcraft" and "love" is replaced with "skill".
I can't stand Kdramas either but for some reason I don't mind some Japanese drama anime. Just feels weird when real people are acting so extremely fictional and are expected to be taken seriously.
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So you're saying that you've never had one of those (regular, run of the mill) I-just-defeated-my-main-rival-in-love-and-now-I'm-kissing-the-girl-in-the-rain-to-an-overly-sappy-and-overused-OST moments before?
Why I never...
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On February 10 2011 08:51 eviltomahawk wrote:
It seems that Korean Dramas and girls are analogous to Korean Starcraft and guys. I guess neither may understand the other's passions...
Heck, Korea has it all, man. Kpop. Starcraft/e-sports. Kdramas. FUCKING KOREAN BBQ. It seems that everything that comes from that country ends up being popular and generally high quality (though Kpop and Kdramas are debatable).
Hallyu wave is swarming the planet right now. A couple of years back, everyone wanted to eat sushi, watch anime and visit Japan. Now everyone wants to listen to Kpop watch Kdramas, eat korean food and wear hanboks. Maybe in 10 years everybody will be obsessed with another country.
But seriously though, I don't see any problem to that. I can't enter a relationship if it doesn't involve a multi race war, my love dying and reborn as queen of savage blood hungry beasts and me having sex in a ridiculously large space marine suit.
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easy, get a group of guys and tell those girls how you want your girl friends to be as pretty as the Korean actresses with perfect face features and stuffs ...
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that video had less than 100 views before it was posted, now it has nearly 1700
ahh the power of TL
If you guys want to watch a good drama then watch Coffee Prince for starters
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I don't see how this is much different from the American Soap Opera, which I avoid like the plauge.
Probably because its an generational thing, with teenagers watching an obsessing over things.
Not that it is a bad thing. We all do obssess over starcraft
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On February 10 2011 22:51 lokiM wrote:
that video had less than 100 views before it was posted, now it has nearly 1700
ahh the power of TL
If you guys want to watch a good drama then watch Coffee Prince for starters
TL will make this the next big viral video haha
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On February 10 2011 22:51 lokiM wrote:
that video had less than 100 views before it was posted, now it has nearly 1700
ahh the power of TL
*high-five*
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I don't think there's a problem here. I have many friends similar to yours and while I agree it's really annoying you have to remember that it's just a fantasy. We all indulge in guilty pleasures and imagine alternate realities where everything happens the way we want them to right? I've discussed this topic with people before, and I'm actually a bit uncomfortable with the idea that watching Korean dramas somehow influences women to the point where they have unrealistic expectations for relationships. The implication of such logic is not all that different from the nutcases who think playing violent video games causes young men to become violent themselves. The key is to be able to separate reality from fantasy, something 99% of people are capable of.
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On February 09 2011 12:40 LosingID8 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD5wiUnDGFY
Am I the only guy who thinks it's kinda cute? I mean, she gets excited about something she loves.
Sure - if she is like that for every episode - woah! - but once for the final ones I can understand. I mean - I get hyped up about SC2, Sci-fi & fantasy series/movies.
As someone already mentioned - we guys have our "fantasy worlds" too Though most of them are more unrealistic than a kdrama.
I dont know any female that watches kdrama, but some who watched the normal daily soaps on german television. Sure they talked about it (a lot) but were still "normal". In the end they got older and just stopped watching.
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LOL in a hilarious turn of events, i found out through facebook that the girl in this video is actually a friend of a friend...
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Hm, i'm not sure if this is with just Korean Dramas..
I mean, I read romance novels that are either fantastic or kinda like "lolcheeseyyylol" right? Or, just any books in general. They can have an impact on the way you look out onto life, love, experiences~
There are books where the characters have such a love, that you wish you could have that in your life too. It's almost painful because it seems so unrealistic, yet so beautiful. You wish you could experience their heartache and their tragedies, and know that feeling of being loved forever. You wish someone would save you from the horrors of real life and place you in that forever-in-love state.
I can't say I can relate to the girls who watch those korean dramas because I have never watched them before, but there are PLENTY of other books and movies that girls want to relate to in the same way.
Like I said, from a girl who feels everything and overthinks everything, I can see where your friends are coming from. xD
I mean, I could very easily cry myself to sleep if I wanted because I didn't have the kind of love that the characters in books I read do. Or I could be happy because I have fantastic friends, a wonderful boyfriend, and a life that isn't full of tragedy and heartache. =P
I will admit though, I would love to have more adventure and travel in my life. But dealing with all the heartache and tragedy that some characters in books or movies experience.. @_@;;!!
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from personal experience i totally see what you are saying, but I honestly know that the perfect guy that is seen in those Korean dramas is not real, and honestly I probably wouldn't want a guy who is that sappy, and romantic. I think girls who think this kinda stuff is real, and set those high expectations are ridiculous and need to get a good slap in the face. anyways this is coming from someone who is hopelessly obsessed with Kdramas and honestly asian dramas in general, so I completely understand what you are saying, and agree that they can mess with girls heads lol especially those extremists like your friends. But hey, be glad they aren't saijin fans or you'd be in a load of trouble. BTW if you haven't I suggest checking out some dramas, because honestly they are really good, and I personally prefer them to many of the North American shows we have (especially lately, as our shows seem to be getting worse and worse lol)
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On April 09 2013 09:22 imadethiscuziwsbored wrote:
from personal experience i totally see what you are saying, but I honestly know that the perfect guy that is seen in those Korean dramas is not real, and honestly I probably wouldn't want a guy who is that sappy, and romantic. I think girls who think this kinda stuff is real, and set those high expectations are ridiculous and need to get a good slap in the face. anyways this is coming from someone who is hopelessly obsessed with Kdramas and honestly asian dramas in general, so I completely understand what you are saying, and agree that they can mess with girls heads lol especially those extremists like your friends. But hey, be glad they aren't saijin fans or you'd be in a load of trouble. BTW if you haven't I suggest checking out some dramas, because honestly they are really good, and I personally prefer them to many of the North American shows we have (especially lately, as our shows seem to be getting worse and worse lol)
how do 1posters always seem to necro the oldest threads.
google searches?
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Korean drama is seriously horrible. I thought the first drams I watched was cool although so many plots are unreasonable and apparently just fillers. The more I watched the more I was amazed how unified the story lines, the actors and actress's facial expression, the lines they are. Wait a minute, did I see the same plot in the other drama? And why do they always have the same conversations? Surprisingly, these two actresses are different people but they look the same or act the same? Why do the actresses have the same exaggerated facial expression to pretend cute but actually very fake? Guys are usually rich and mean to the main female actresses. Please can they have different acting skills for different dramas or because the drama are the same they have to act the same even the same as other actors and actresses? I have to say the Korean drama writers and actresses and actors have very easy job by copying and pasting. I am so disgusted by the Korean dramas.
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One reason why they'll forever watch korean dramas because 99% of them will not live their ideal life. I remember when I was at my friends, their moms would be watching that crap and they're pretty old.
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On February 10 2011 11:24 PetitCrabe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2011 08:51 eviltomahawk wrote:
It seems that Korean Dramas and girls are analogous to Korean Starcraft and guys. I guess neither may understand the other's passions...
Heck, Korea has it all, man. Kpop. Starcraft/e-sports. Kdramas. FUCKING KOREAN BBQ. It seems that everything that comes from that country ends up being popular and generally high quality (though Kpop and Kdramas are debatable). Hallyu wave is swarming the planet right now. A couple of years back, everyone wanted to eat sushi, watch anime and visit Japan. Now everyone wants to listen to Kpop watch Kdramas, eat korean food and wear hanboks. Maybe in 10 years everybody will be obsessed with another country. But seriously though, I don't see any problem to that. I can't enter a relationship if it doesn't involve a multi race war, my love dying and reborn as queen of savage blood hungry beasts and me having sex in a ridiculously large space marine suit.
I still eat sushi, watch anime and want to visit japan T_T
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