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FragKrag's Terran Adventures! Part 1

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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 05 2011 04:29 GMT
#1
After about 6 or so months of playing Protoss, I have decided to switch back to Terran, which I played during beta. Protoss is just boring. Though I have complaints against the entire game in general, I feel like Protoss is what hurts my impression of StarCraft 2 the most, and there are really only 2 units that combined, makes most standard Protoss play (in my opinion) very bland.

The Sentry and the Colossus. I find the two units insanely boring. The sentry with its force field slows down the momentum of the game tremendously and I hate how my T1 army is completely balanced around the ability of the sentry to slow down the pace of the game to a crawl so I can tech to Colossus. While sometimes sentry play can be very 'awesome', I just wish my gateway units were more powerful so that there would be more micro involved rather than just splitting armies apart.

That leads me to my complaint against the Colossus: It's boring, and IMO overpowered. I don't like how my army almost always revolves around 3-4 gigantic monoliths that are the center point of every battle. I hate how the Protoss army is designed as a meatshield so that the Colossus can do the DPS. Zealots? Meatshield against marauders. Stalkers? Meatshield. Sentry? FF. Void Ray? Meatshield against corruptors. Phoenix? Viking Killer. I hate how little micro there is in a Pv matchup aside from dancing colossi, and making force fields.

It might just be me, but while I see a bunch of other races doing very awesome micro, I simply don't see many Protoss players executing the precise micro that makes the game exciting. This may be inherent in the nature of the Protoss race, but the utter lack of micro (in my opinion) in many cases makes playing Protoss very bland.

If anybody watched my stream for the 1-2 months I actually streamed, I'm sure they would know about how much I fucking despise PvP. In my opinion, it's the worst matchup. I don't know whether it has changed since the patch (I really doubt it has), but PvP has always been a shitload of bad Protoss players that just cheese, and win because they can cheese. Whether it's cannon rushing, blind luck proxy gates, or just some dumb Korean 4 gate all in. PvP is just overall a fucking terrible matchup. If it gets to late game, it just becomes some retarded colossus war, and the game is almost always decided by one battle because it's impossible to replace colossus quickly enough to defend a push from the opposing player who both has colossus and a fresh warp in of units. The fact that a '4 warpgate challenge' thread exists on TL is a testament to the stupidity of PvP and Protoss in general.

Terran to me feels like something new and fresh. I might get tired of playing Terran soon, but for now, it's amazing. I love trying to micro, multitask, harass, do different builds and just experiment to see what works.

I've played probably 25-30 games of Terran since switching races a few days ago and most of them (if not all) are in this rep pack!
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All aptly named based on my experiences in game!

Stuff I've tried to varying degrees of success are 12/14 Rax in TvZ, different Hellion Drops in TvP/TvT, Marine/Raven/Banshee in TvP, and maybe some other random shit. Criticism is welcome.

As far as playing goes, I actually have no idea what is right in TvZ or TvT. TvP I have a bit of an idea of, but the other two matchups I have done no research on so in just about every game I'm just winging it based on what seems logical/cool.

My Sc2Ranks graph which I suppose tells the tale of my StarCraft 2 adventures
http://sc2ranks.com/team/4071094#alltime

Oh yeah, and if you want to watch me fail at Terran, explain what I'm doing and the logic behind it,(and probably rage once in a while) I'm going to start streaming again!
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/FragKrag



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*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 05 2011 04:42 GMT
#2
Do the SK Terran vZ style!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
February 05 2011 04:50 GMT
#3
I agree that colossus are boring as shit. Textbook example of a unit that was made with art design in mind over gameplay design.
Better than Pokebunny
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 05 2011 05:10 GMT
#4
On February 05 2011 13:50 Foreplay wrote:
I agree that colossus are boring as shit. Textbook example of a unit that was made with art design in mind over gameplay design.

Yeah. I'm getting same feeling :/
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 05:18:11
February 05 2011 05:16 GMT
#5
Kraggy! Do some awesome mech against Protoss, currently using mech in my TvP (I'm low diamond btw) but it works wonders in maps that has small cokes, lots of cliffs and hellions are fucking awesome against Protoss light units. 3-3 mech is a beast ^_^

Also, I agree, Collosus I think needs to be reverted back to the beta style in which it doesn't do that much DPS but a very powerful pew pew attack but very slow.

if you want something refreshing from TvT here's something pretty cool:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189624 <-iEchoic's guide to TvT

might try it myself though.

in TvZ it's all about bio balls 3-3 and superior harass drops if you like that
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 05 2011 05:16 GMT
#6
currently streaming :D
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 05:35:55
February 05 2011 05:26 GMT
#7
Meh i have the same story than you. Started with protoss then got really bored by PvP ( 4gates or Colossus war -.- ) and PvT so i switched to terran, was kinda fun for a while but ultimately... i went back to bw.

TvZ is probably the best match up to play in Sc2 even if it is kinda boring to watch at the top level because there are way too many dumb allins.
TvT isn't too bad either. TvP on the other hand... :/
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
February 05 2011 05:46 GMT
#8
On February 05 2011 13:29 FragKrag wrote:
After about 6 or so months of playing Protoss, I have decided to switch back to Terran, which I played during beta. Protoss is just boring. Though I have complaints against the entire game in general, I feel like Protoss is what hurts my impression of StarCraft 2 the most, and there are really only 2 units that combined, makes most standard Protoss play (in my opinion) very bland.

The Sentry and the Colossus. I find the two units insanely boring.


I totally agree with this and I'm in the same situation myself.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
February 05 2011 06:10 GMT
#9
i made the same switch for the same reasons. particularly how PvP is just who has the better 4 gate. sticking with terran now, lots of good micro and the onus is usually on you to take the game.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 05 2011 06:23 GMT
#10
God TvP is so insanely hard

TvZ as well, but TvP is just this insane uphill battle ;_;
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 06:24:24
February 05 2011 06:23 GMT
#11
Just played 3 terran ladder games. So fun lol.

Might make the switch with frag lolz

haven't had a tvp yet, except for the one where he had nothing and I rolled him lolz.

I can't figure out how many rax/starports/facts to hve off of 2-3 base. Keep on having a trust fund. Being broke. having a trust fund being broke etc
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 06:25:23
February 05 2011 06:23 GMT
#12
Such an insightful post, thanks for sharing!

I used to off race once in a while in team games or just random 1v1s but I agree that I found Terran to be the most fun - there is just so much you can do and you don't have to rely on just Force Fields or just getting a colossus, or as Zerg rely on just not dying to retarded crap. I've been fighting the temptation to take the hit in ranking and just switch to Terran, but sadly I might just take the leap.

TvT is also the most awesome mirror matchup IMO. It really can exemplify position wars instead of blob vs blob.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 05 2011 06:26 GMT
#13
I haven't actually played a full on TvT because I'm having too much fun with hellion drops and harassing

God I love being able to harass again.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
February 05 2011 06:27 GMT
#14
I usually switch races up time and time again. It seems like I always swing back to Terran because of the macro style and the things you can do with the units. Protoss is boring for me as well, I just can't get into them as much as Zerg or Terran. Good luck to you on your journey as a space viking!
Brood War forever!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 05 2011 06:43 GMT
#15
I haven't tried to play zerg yet because I don't really like the race in general. Everytime I play it something just feels off so I never play zerg anymore

rofl
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 05 2011 06:45 GMT
#16
yeah, I'm going about 500 as terran. Lol, considering I've played toss as main.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 05 2011 08:38 GMT
#17
I did the exactly opposite as you, played Terran for some games then got bored so switch back to Protoss :/
Rillanon.au
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
February 05 2011 11:24 GMT
#18
5/5 for switching
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19035 Posts
February 05 2011 14:27 GMT
#19
If you're looking for a change, try a Jinro style macro game. It can be pretty hard to get to, since a lot of people on Battle.net like to cheese and rush and end games quickly, but they are incredibly fun.
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JiSu
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 15:55:52
February 05 2011 15:55 GMT
#20
Yes, this is what happened to me too! I used to play Protoss in beta and when it released but it got so freaking boring. It always just revolves around some sentry play and colossus pretty much in all matchups.. Sometimes you'd include phoenix vs zerg or void rays against terran but mehh.. and the usual 4 gate.

So I decided to switch to Terran because of the variations you can do. Fast viking to snipe overlord, fast helions, fast dropships, fast banshee.. you can do much harass stuff with Terran while multitasking (which essentially will get you better at the game) whereas Protoss you just slow down the game until you get HT or Colossus out and pretty much own faces.

Yeah, macro games is fun but for me, those games take forever and I'm so exhausted after each game. I mean it's fun from time to time but I wouldn't be able to do it every single game because it's usually quite the same thing over and over again, especially in TvTs. So I try to end the game early with harass and stuff lol even though I know long macro games will help you with macro but mehh
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