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MarthVader
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States63 Posts
January 24 2011 03:58 GMT
#1
Hi. My name is Martha and I have a dream. I have a dream of becoming a professional StarCraft 2 player.
I want to be on a team, I want to compete in competitions, I want to great at this game. (also I feel like we need some sort of female representative in the pro-circuit... and if no one else is going to be that person I'd be happy to.)

Only issue is that I'm a 1.3k Silver player.

Words cannot express how serious I am about this. I've been doing all I can to achieve this dream, however it seems I'm in need of some help. Any help. I don't have a lot of money to pay for coaches, however I can exchange graphics (I do graphic design) for any coaching of any sort. Any help would be amazing though, whether that be a couple tips, a nice build, replays.. etc.

I realize that the majority of people on this website also have the same exact dream, and I'm sorry if you think I'm a horrible person for asking for help.

Anything that anyone wants to contribute feel free to reply to this post or to PM me.
I'm MarthVader 764 on NA.

Thank You,
Martha

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day[9] moderator and esports advocate. twitter: @MarthaVader
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
January 24 2011 04:00 GMT
#2
You know plenty of good players (not pro level, but better enough to the point hwere they can help you improve). Just ask them if they're willing to help you out looking at replays or giving advice on how to increase your effective APM and good decision making.)

And don't expect to be a professional. It's an overtly lavish dream of which few can make a living off of.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Abductedonut
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States324 Posts
January 24 2011 04:02 GMT
#3
All I can really say is PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.

There are proper ways to practice that will help you improve quickly, but it's still all about PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
January 24 2011 04:10 GMT
#4
practice a lot.
but the important thing that i learned

Practice doesnt make perfect , perfect practice makes perfect.

you gotta really focus on your practice and evaluate on what you are doing wrong etc.
good luck :/
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
January 24 2011 04:14 GMT
#5
At your level? Just practice a crap ton.

I'd recommend against coaching personally until you've got a much more solid grasp of the game.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
January 24 2011 04:20 GMT
#6
Have fun. >.>

I know you're all serious about your dream, but the best way to improve isn't to drill out shit, because that'll be a one way street to boredom.

You should just have fun with the game, experience new things. Practice is great and it's highly recommended, but we always have to remember that enjoying the game has to come first to becoming a professional at it.
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 04:36:56
January 24 2011 04:29 GMT
#7
There's no secret. Practice.

Look. Don't say "I want to be a programmer, I want to live that lifestyle, I want to be payed to play video games in a house provided for me where I live with like-minded friends. I want meals cooked for me, and fans who worship me. I want to be interviewed. The only problem is I'm bad at this game." Being good at the game is the only requirement to be a pro gamer. It's not a minor problem, or a slight hitch in the plan, it's the singular fucking thing you need to be a Starcraft progammer. "But I have the devotion and the drive, it's my dream, the only thing I want to do!" Those are sub-requirements. Why? Because the only fucking thing you need to be a starcraft progammer is to be good at starcraft. To get good at starcraft, you need to be devoted, have drive, and aspire to improve yourself. Nothing you've mentioned in the first post is worth anything/ Everyone wants to be payed to play video games, everyone wants to live an easy lifestyle. If you think the fact that you want these things is half the battle, then you are very, very wrong.

Starcraft is a game that you need to love. You don't become a progammer at starcraft because your goal from day 1 was to become a progammer at starcraft. You do it by loving the game, regardless of where you end up, and by playing it because you love to play it.

Sorry for the tough love, but I've seen this blog post a dozen times.

Me? I play Starcraft a couple times a week because I really like it. It's a very cool game, with a cool scene and cool people playing it. I've liked this game for years, a large chunk of my life. Do I love starcraft? Does it consume every fiber of my body? Does it propell me forward? No. Playing music does that for me. I have to convince myself to play stacraft, "I need to move up in the ladder." I don't need a reason to practice with my band, or pick up my guitar for 3 hours a day, because I love it. I love it in a way I can't really describe in words. It's the greatest and most rewarding thing I've ever done. So? I don't get caught up in my very human desire to play starcraft because hey I could be as popular and cool as Jinro blah blah blah. I just do what I love. Every pro gamer on the scene now is where they are because they love playing starcraft. Thats how anyone who ever gets anywhere doing anything gets there.

If you really love the game, keep doing what you love and you'll go great places. If you love the idea of being a pro-gammer, then you're doing the wrong thing and wasting a lot of time.
MarthVader
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States63 Posts
January 24 2011 04:34 GMT
#8
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 24 2011 13:29 Lexpar wrote:
There's no secret. Practice.

Look. Don't say "I want to be a programmer, I want to live that lifestyle, I want to be payed to play video games in a house provided for me where I live with like-minded friends. I want meals cooked for me, and fans who worship me. I want to be interviewed. The only problem is I'm bad at this game." Being good at the game is the only requirement to be a pro gamer. It's not a minor problem, or a slight hitch in the plan, it's the singular fucking thing you need to be a Starcraft progammer. "But I have the devotion and the drive, it's my dream, the only thing I want to do!" Those are sub-requirements. Why? Because the only fucking thing you need to be a starcraft progammer is to be good at starcraft. To get good at starcraft, you need to be devoted, have drive, and aspire to improve yourself. Nothing you've mentioned in the first post is worth anything/ Everyone wants to be payed to play video games, everyone wants to live an easy lifestyle. If you think the fact that you want these things is half the battle, then you are very, very wrong.

Starcraft is a game that you need to love. You don't become a progammer at starcraft because your goal from day 1 was to become a progammer at starcraft. You do it by loving the game, regardless of where you end up, and by playing it because you lose to play it.

Sorry for the tough love, but I've seen this blog post a dozen times.



I'm well aware that I need to be good at the game to be a pro gamer. That's pretty self explanatory.
I do love the game. I do practice whenever I can. I'm just asking for any help that any one is willing to give. I don't think that's so bad to ask.
day[9] moderator and esports advocate. twitter: @MarthaVader
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
January 24 2011 04:37 GMT
#9
Have your dream, but make sure you love the game to the heart. Only that way you'll be able to keep going when you face obstacles. When you face roadblocks. When you sturggle with yourself thinking you cannot move forward. Remind yourself of that love you have for the game. Because that's imo only way one can achieve such goal. Being devoted, the old fashioned good practice and ability to go forward no matter what. And, sharing such bold dreams with the community may even invoke responses, which you might not like and feel discouraged. That's why it's for the best to keep such dreams for yourself and perhaps your closest friend or two.

One my wise friend told me, when I told him about what my dream is, told me to not focus on the goal of the path, but rather, to enjoy the path itself. Enjoy the path, walk it with love and see where it takes you.
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
January 24 2011 04:41 GMT
#10
On January 24 2011 13:14 Haemonculus wrote:
At your level? Just practice a crap ton.

I'd recommend against coaching personally until you've got a much more solid grasp of the game.


agreed with Hae, you should get to diamond or master league level first before asking for coaching because that's were wall starts hitting and you have no idea why you're not improving anymore.. (like myself)
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
blue`
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom119 Posts
January 24 2011 04:41 GMT
#11
Practice deliberately. Always practice with a purpose, don't just hit find match and think it will improve your game. Watch your replays and analyse problem areas, then work on them specifically.

This will not get you a high ladder rank, but if you do if consistently you will improve tremendously.

If you feel like you can't analyse your replays accurately for whatever reason, I'm pretty sure there's a thread on TL, or just ask someone on irc or wherever.

Make a starcraft journal, take notes on timings/build orders.

Try to make your objective being good, not being a progamer.

Get a practice partner, or several!
Easter has been cancelled, they found the body
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 05:01:44
January 24 2011 04:59 GMT
#12
It's funny when someone makes a post about wanting to become a progamer, that the only response they really get is practice practice practice.
OFFER HELP. If you are really a fan of the competitive scene and want to see new players rise, help out those people who want to try and make it in the competitive scene.
Yes, I know that Practice is a HUGE part of learning. But 9/10 times the person already knows that T.T.
And there is nothing wrong with walking into it and saying, "I want to be a programer". Absolutely nothing wrong. It's like walking into a test and saying , "I want to get at least a 75%". It gives you motivation to try and achieve those goals.

Anyways, Marth if you wanna practice some games, hit me up! JinX.788
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
January 24 2011 05:20 GMT
#13
I guess I could help, but i only played sc2 for a month or so and stopped playing. If anything, I can probably teach basic concepts that are crucial for the RTS games since I've been heavily into the brood war scene since 02 or so.
Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
January 24 2011 05:45 GMT
#14
I've always thought that I would have some kind of epiphany that would make me a great player, but it has never come. As everyone has said, practice and proper analysis of yourself is all that is important. Realistically, it will take a lot of patience, and maybe even be impossible- to get to the top, you would be competing with people who have already "learned how to learn" through years of experience. There is no simple solution, just keep trying!
beep beep boop
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
January 24 2011 06:22 GMT
#15
On January 24 2011 14:45 Nokarot wrote:
I've always thought that I would have some kind of epiphany that would make me a great player, but it has never come. As everyone has said, practice and proper analysis of yourself is all that is important. Realistically, it will take a lot of patience, and maybe even be impossible- to get to the top, you would be competing with people who have already "learned how to learn" through years of experience. There is no simple solution, just keep trying!

Its more of a feeling, that in the zone feeling. You have to make it so every game your in the zone, so playing at a high level isn't only doable but comfortable and smooth and easy. If your terran or protoss its being able to control the entire flow of the game, if your zerg, its about controlling the map.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9109 Posts
January 24 2011 06:30 GMT
#16
gl Martha, go play a few thousand games and tell us how you're doing
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 06:49:01
January 24 2011 06:45 GMT
#17
On January 24 2011 12:58 MarthVader wrote:
Hi. My name is Martha and I have a dream. I have a dream of becoming a professional StarCraft 2 player.
I want to be on a team, I want to compete in competitions, I want to great at this game. (also I feel like we need some sort of female representative in the pro-circuit... and if no one else is going to be that person I'd be happy to.)

Only issue is that I'm a 1.3k Silver player.

Words cannot express how serious I am about this. I've been doing all I can to achieve this dream, however it seems I'm in need of some help. Any help. I don't have a lot of money to pay for coaches, however I can exchange graphics (I do graphic design) for any coaching of any sort. Any help would be amazing though, whether that be a couple tips, a nice build, replays.. etc.

I realize that the majority of people on this website also have the same exact dream, and I'm sorry if you think I'm a horrible person for asking for help.

Anything that anyone wants to contribute feel free to reply to this post or to PM me.
I'm MarthVader 764 on NA.

Thank You,
Martha

Martha, join my team, Team Solid(Not sure if this'll be the actual team name haha). We're mostly god/silver/bronze players but with 1 diamond player coaching us when he has time(Was top 200 in beta). Recently we seted up a BO7 within the team for fun, We play against each other to get better = P I post replays of our games on sc2replayed = )

~RezChi, 547
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 07:40:58
January 24 2011 07:38 GMT
#18
Damn I thought this would involve Hot_Bid somehow .
Anyway GL, as others have said practice is really the key at this point. HF on your journey :D
Oh and edit: + Show Spoiler +
Almost a full page and no morons asking for pics, I don't know if I've ever been prouder of TL :D
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