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Underwhelmed
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States207 Posts
December 14 2010 11:00 GMT
#21
On December 14 2010 16:53 Myrmidon wrote:
I likewise guessed Ron Paul from the thread title. I don't at all agree with many of his positions, but I do agree that it would be nice to have more voices like his that represent views outside the mainstream two-party establishment/leadership.

To be honest, there are others who think the recent Wikileaks release is good for U.S. interests, but for varying reasons. I recently read a column by Fareed Zakaria that argued that the recent leak was net positive overall, for some of the following reasons (very paraphrased, and I may be forgetting or adding things):
  • It showed that U.S. State Dept. officials are intelligent, good at analysis and writing, and overall competent.
  • Every country has dirty secrets, but what was revealed here was pretty tame and not all that condemning.
  • It showed that neighboring countries actually hate Iran and are afraid of its nuclear program, which supports U.S. interests in hampering Iran's nuclear program. The revelations are so bad for Iran that Ahmedinejad claims that the U.S. government itself was behind Wikileaks.
  • It showed China (publicly one of North Korea's largest supporters) being frustrated with North Korea being a little bitch, which likewise supports U.S. interests with regards to that country.
Of course, there are some small security issues and embarrassments to deal with in the fallout.

None of those things are really news though - people following the issues closely already knew that much. I'm a little amused that he felt the need to point out the State Department officials are smart and good at what they do. I can't fathom why anybody would think otherwise.

About the best that can be said about Ron Paul is that while he is crazy, he's at least consistently crazy. Congress could do with more members willing to break from party orthodoxy; political deadlock is one of the major problems in this country.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
December 14 2010 12:32 GMT
#22
Never really knew much about him until now, but I have to say I think the American government is too big and needs to be cut down. Especially the public school education monopoly.

Otherwise, it is good to hear someone who has some unorthodox views, especially in congress.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 15:30:32
December 14 2010 15:27 GMT
#23
Ron Paul spoke at my high school in '07, he has some interesting views, but many of his views are a little to extreme for me. For instance he a strong advocate for the gold standard, which most econmists agree getting us back to the gold standard would completely trash the econmony even worse then it already is.

and as someone said he pretty much wants to elminate every federal level social program
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