I thought I'd go and make a blog. I don't really care about the "omg first blog post what do I write" mentality. I didn't even know what I'm going to write when I clicked the create blog button. But, I randomly decided to write about a topic commonly discussed here on TL - the "gg".
Now, there have been quite a few polls asking StarCraft II players what they think about gg'ing, usually offering options such as "I always gg," "I gg if it is a good game," and the IdrA approach. I always vote that I always gg, because while not in a game, that's what I believe I should, ideally, do.
I'll be honest tho, I don't always gg. I don't think I've ever gg'ed when I lose to a 4gate, for example. If I feel I've been outplayed, I gg. If I scout a 4gate, mass bunker, and still lose, I don't (which is most often the case). I rage quit every now and again when I scout a baneling bust, make a bunker and barracks wall, and still lose. It happens to all of us.
Everyone rage quits now and again. If there are any angelic beings out there who have gg'd every single game they ever lost, I commend that, but that kind of being is extremely rare or flat out doesn't exist.
In the end, the important thing is to know that gg'ing is important. In a tournament, for example, even IdrA has to gg. Even IdrA knows that in a more formal setting, it's important.
That being said, I shall now make a poll.
Poll: Do you gg? (Be truthful!)
I try to gg every game, but sometimes rage gets the best of me. (81)
42%
I am an angelic being who has gg'd every game I have ever played. (70)
37%
I leave without gg'ing almost every game, except tournaments. (24)
13%
I never gg. (9)
5%
I rage from time to time, but gg in important settings. (7)
4%
191 total votes
Your vote: Do you gg? (Be truthful!)
(Vote): I am an angelic being who has gg'd every game I have ever played. (Vote): I try to gg every game, but sometimes rage gets the best of me. (Vote): I rage from time to time, but gg in important settings. (Vote): I leave without gg'ing almost every game, except tournaments. (Vote): I never gg.
Never, unless I'm on US West or something I feel like it sometimes. Don't even GG my rl friends because I can get away with not being called BM or whatever, however I do usually give gg to my e-friends (except lolf f u chobo). This applies to both sc1 and sc2 for me.
I pretty much always say gg. There have only been 1 or 2 times when I haven't, and those weren't because of rage, but because of how embarrassed I was at how badly I played, haha.
I gg every game sometimes i type for fun hopefully something funny we lough and than leave. never happened to me that i rage quit even i was all ined in TL open i should scout and i know i did a mistake and even than said GG. im such a nice guy : )
I only gg in tournaments and to all my friends, or if its a friendly game that was created through other friends. In ladder I just leave right away no gg!
Unless I'm mistaken GG means good game. If I lose to a 6 pool that's not a good game. Anyone can 6 pool me on a small map in close quarters. If I've played a blinding game and I feel that it really was a good game, I'll GG because it was a good game.
It feels as if GG has become meaningless because people use it in such a mindless and blank fashion. I just got 4gated. GG. I just got Marine SCV All in'd with no micro. GG.
It's extremely situational for me. Typically, if I get cheesed I won't gg. If the game straight up displayed my skills and I lost I will always gg. If it's a tournament/game with friends I will gg no matter what though, even if they cheese me.
couldn't pick a choice in the poll. i gg if the game actually was good, but cheese and bad manner mean no gg. if a friend cheeses me i don't gg either. but i never leave without a gg just because i lost.
"Angelic being" is a bit too far but yes gg every game, you always played worse if you lost, or maybe lost to some cheese/allin but are viable and usual with perfect play you'll still stop them, just greedy play//poor scouting.
I gg every 1v1 game. Mainly I just do it to give a heads-up that I'm leaving the game and to be polite. I really don't care how I lose because a loss is a loss is a loss. No one is going to look at your record and say "Oh that loss was to 6 pool, doesn't mean you're bad." Not "gg"ing is like walking out on a guy mid-conversation. "GG"ing is like saying "nice to meet you" after a conversation with a stranger, even if it wasn't nice to meet him.
On December 14 2010 07:12 Thermia wrote: There needs to be an option for "I only gg if the game was close and/or actually a good game"
people need to stop considering it that. It's a way of politely conceding the game and admitting your opponent has bested you, not a way of telling your opponent it was actually a good game or not!
I actually think this is why I don't get any better at brood war. I have a hard time GGing when I lose from a moderately behind position, because I often feel like I could have played better than I did so it's more a frustration at myself than a rage at the other player. Maybe if I GGed more often I would feel more professional, which would make me more pro. (Get it? professional = pro :D)
I also always try to GG with capital Gs because Bisu does it a lot.
On December 14 2010 07:12 Thermia wrote: There needs to be an option for "I only gg if the game was close and/or actually a good game"
people need to stop considering it that. It's a way of politely conceding the game and admitting your opponent has bested you, not a way of telling your opponent it was actually a good game or not!
That's all personal preference though. Some people agree with you and some agree with me and Thermia. I'm not going to try to convince you, and you shouldn't try to convince us. That's not what this thread is for; there's other threads which's purpose was for debating that. This thread is simply to say where we stand, not why we think so.
I gg as part of a ritual. Yeah, it doesn't mean anything, but it helps me calm down when I get all-in'd or cheesed so that instead of insta Find Match again I can try and learn something. Whether it's a way to position my buildings differently or control issue to hold off that certain cheese better. Just helps me focus, I don't know why. (Habit probably)
On December 14 2010 08:58 Conversion wrote: I always gg, but it pisses me off when people don't GG back.
I understand your opinions, but not GGing back is basically saying, "you suck, gtfo."
-___- many times I have raged because people wouldn't gg back.
meh.
what pisses me off are people who leave the game immidiately after they've lost and then chat with you about what an asshole you are for not writing back gg in like 2 seconds. didn't mean you but it happens alot to me
I always gg because I don't attach any meaning to it, but other people generally like receiving a gg. I lose nothing and it makes a random person slightly happier, so why not? No need to be a dick.
On December 14 2010 07:12 Thermia wrote: There needs to be an option for "I only gg if the game was close and/or actually a good game"
people need to stop considering it that. It's a way of politely conceding the game and admitting your opponent has bested you, not a way of telling your opponent it was actually a good game or not!
In addition to what Grobyc said, my typical ritual, if you will, for losing is to type out a gg + what I feel I did poorly or my opponent did well in the game if we had a decent game of back and forth, a good transition out of a failed cheese/rush (or a new way to make a cheese succeed that I hadn't seen before), or whatever else might have made the game "good." If the game wasn't very good, I'll probably guess aloud the reason why I lost to my opponent before quitting and let them confirm, deny, or whatever they want. Just because I don't actually type "gg" doesn't make that disrespectful, I feel. Say I lose mid-game because my macro was just horribly off and I had 2k/1k banked somehow and he came and steamrolled me. Those games to me are as disappointing to lose or even win (it's difficult to learn what you could have improved on if you just smashed the other guy) as they would be to watch, and, in my opinion, don't deserve to be called "good" even as a concession before leaving.
On the other hand, as a winner, I will type "gg" if my opponent does so as a response, and additionally "wp" if the game was in fact well played from my perspective. It's just how I feel both phrases should be used, that's all.
I gg in probably 99% of my games. Some scenarios like getting DT'd five times in a row and somehow not scouting it resulting in a loss pisses me off too much. I just wanna get to the next game as soon as possible.
I do however type wp when I get absolutely owned when I think I played well.
I think the GG is pretty important, its like after a game of sport where you shake hands with the other guy. Rage gets to me more than often but i try to gg most games
The only time I gg are: -In scbw, generally on iccup -In tournaments, which I never play -When the other opponents play legitimately impressed me, and I feel like that it was the reason that they won the game Unfortunately, these are all rare occurrences. Thus, I rarely gg.
Everyone rage quits now and again. If there are any angelic beings out there who have gg'd every single game they ever lost, I commend that, but that kind of being is extremely rare or flat out doesn't exist.
No, that's just someone who isn't arrogant. I always gg. It's manners, plain and simple. It doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't have to be literal. It shows you understand the rules of etiquette and are conscious of the other player.
If you don't gg it means a few things: You never knew to gg (ie you're not part of this community/you've never watched progaming), you're too self-centred to respect the other player, or you're actually under the delusion that it's a value judgement. It really isn't. It's just showing your respect for the other player. If you think a player doesn't deserve your respect because he 6pooled you, or cannon rushed you, then you are arrogant.
I always gg. Don't think I've made a single exception while playing SC2 (it happened once or twice in BW though :D). It's a matter of good sportsmanship.
A lot of people do offensive gg so I usually would rage and throw objects across the house until I am ready to play another game :| The only time i would gg is if the game is a macro game and or it's really tense and my opponent just outplays me.
On December 14 2010 06:44 Megaliskuu wrote: Never, unless I'm on US West or something I feel like it sometimes. Don't even GG my rl friends because I can get away with not being called BM or whatever, however I do usually give gg to my e-friends (except lolf f u chobo). This applies to both sc1 and sc2 for me.
Edit: I do rage alot.
Of course you wouldn't GG. GG stands for Good Game, don't you know that? It's not a good game if you can't survive my first 6 zerglings when I go hatchery first.
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