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Fake GGs:
Nothing makes me rage more than the fake gg. I literally seem to run into this more than I run into real ggs (and this was also the case on iccup for Brood War). And yet, I haven't seen anyone else talk about them. Is there a thread about this somewhere? Or a term for it other than "fake gg"?
I will explain what I mean.
I wipe out someone's main or natural or whatever and get into a winning position. They say "gg". I say "gg" (or I don't sometimes when I am pretty much sure it's a fake gg). Then, one of a few things happens:
A. my opponents real army (not the one I just destroyed) rolls into my natural / main. I pull my main army back and rejoin with more units in my main to kill it and finally my opponent leaves, with or without GGing.
B. my opponent retreats to his expansion that he thinks is hidden (hint: it's not. You killed my scouting worker, there, dude. You should know that I know about it.). He puts a billion static defense things around it, so that I can completely surround it with my army and static defense of my own. The game gets pointlessly drawn out while I have to tech to long range stuff like collosi/seigetanks/brood lords.
C. My opponent just goes with ye olde "hide buildings all over the place".
So ENRAGING! It makes me less sportsmanlike because I just get all suspicious when I see a gg. Do any of you do this? I don't mess around with these silly failed attempts at mind games.
Not Leaving:
This is a special type of not leaving. My last opponent combined the fake GG with this. This is the not leaving where the opponent GETS PISSED AT ME.
Usually, it involves a Protoss that falls behind me way early because they can't macro. They will build a billion cannons and sit there while I take the whole rest of the map and contain them. They should just GG and leave. Whenever I realize I can't win a game, I gg and leave. Sometimes I send a scout out of my base, see my opponent moving across the middle of the map with a big army, and gg because I realize my build was way too vulnerable. I certainly don't stick around ten minutes after I know I'm dead. But these protosses especially do this. What do they expect from me? I can't efficiently kill them until I get a bunch of siege tanks and I usually go MMM so I set up a permanent contain while I get some more factories with tech labs. Last game, the guy says "quit wasting my time". I tell him "f10 n". Are these people just trolls? Or do they really think it is my job to run my units into their cannons, which is the one possible way they could actually get back into the game? The guy used the fake GG, so he obviously knows he can surrender. Ugh.
In another game, a protoss was really sticking around way too long behind cannons. I didn't want to use siege tanks because it was in a bad position where I couldn't protect the siege tanks with other units without my other units getting into range of a billion cannons. I knew if I just went with siege tanks, his army would just come out and mess up my tanks. So I tech to nukes in order to take out this ridiculous cannon farm. When the first nuke launches, my opponent says "on a scale of 1 to 10 of really fucking pissed, I'm about a 14 right now." Apparently these people are mad because I play very slowly and methodically with my 30-40 APM. I can't kill them any faster, and they can't win, so why can't they just leave? Do they have some crazy sense of pride? I'm not trying to BM, I just don't want to go into a billion cannons without a maxed army and the appropriate tech. If they surrender 90% of the map to me, why not just GG instead of waiting for me to kill them? I dunno. Meh.
 
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wow, that sounds like a pain in the ass, i feel for you man. The worst i've had lately is a zerg offensive gg at me. ofc when people gg for me seconds before im about to gg i get into hiding buildings mode ><
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Have you had people gg after losing their main, only to put you into a false sense of security? So they can buy time to make more carriers and then suddenly send like 10 carriers to kill everything you have. Happened to me. Then they just laugh and there's nothing I can do about it : (
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" C. My opponent just goes with ye olde 'hide buildings all over the place' "
nothing is as priceless as fighting bronze-terrans who start to raging and flying their structures to the edges of the map... ; /
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On December 12 2010 18:44 insta wrote:
" C. My opponent just goes with ye olde 'hide buildings all over the place' "
nothing is as priceless as fighting bronze-terrans who start to raging and flying their structures to the edges of the map... ; /
Yeah, I haven't ran into that nearly as much in SC2 luckily  .
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On December 12 2010 18:42 roronoe wrote:
Have you had people gg after losing their main, only to put you into a false sense of security? So they can buy time to make more carriers and then suddenly send like 10 carriers to kill everything you have. Happened to me. Then they just laugh and there's nothing I can do about it : (
Yeah, I had someone do that, and they came out with a mothership, bunch of carriers, and some void rays to boot. Luckily, they decided to engage me in their natural, where I had placed about 15 missile turrets.
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That's why I always ignore the 'gg' and continue to attack/macro until they actually leave. I never want to have that feeling where I think I won, relax, and then get smashed. That would give me a rage tumor.
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On December 12 2010 18:51 Zim23 wrote:
That's why I always ignore the 'gg' and continue to attack/macro until they actually leave. I never want to have that feeling where I think I won, relax, and then get smashed. That would give me a rage tumor.
This. I take two seconds to reply to the GG, then I continue playing as if my opponent did not leave.
I learned this from an old game I played where my protoss opponent false GG'd then attacked with DT's. I still won, but it taught me to never be complacent.
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Happend to me in beta for a few times, now i always macro and attack and dont give a fuck about gg...
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This has actually never happened to me. Guess you've had some bad luck lol. What server do you play on?
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I have literally never in my 500+ games had anything like this happen to me. People go and hdie expos and try to mass defense but uh...im extremely paranoid so i scout every minute to see whats on the map, so i catch it before it can finish. but these sortsa people never really talked.
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On December 12 2010 19:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
This has actually never happened to me. Guess you've had some bad luck lol. What server do you play on?
North America
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On December 12 2010 18:44 insta wrote:
" C. My opponent just goes with ye olde 'hide buildings all over the place' "
nothing is as priceless as fighting bronze-terrans who start to raging and flying their structures to the edges of the map... ; /
Yeah man, i hate that shit haha
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Netherlands6142 Posts
I just remember to never let my guard down even after GG. If he doesn't leave in 10 seconds just destroy him more.
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Have not seen a fak GG in sc2 yet but I have encountred a few too many that dont give up until all their buildings are dead. Dont people have something better to do than watch me destroy everything they have for 5extra minutes?
Also how have I managed to not see you post before? You have over 6k posts and been here for over two years. Weird.
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I haven't noticed nearly as much of this fake gg'ing that you mention, although I've come across it occasionally. It pisses me off, but I after I reply gg back I just continue killing him like others have mentioned until he leaves or is eliminated.
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Maybe these guys could have a conference with Idra, and agree to meet in the middle somewhere between dragging the game out for 10 minutes and leaving the instant your opponent's army comes into vision on the minimap?
I dunno about everyone else, but I LIKE it when my opponent stays in the game much longer than they should. Playing the game itself is stressful, but once I already know I've won then I can relax and macro up a large army at my leisure. As long as I have vision of what they are doing, I don't care how long it takes. I enjoy nothing more than sitting back and taking the map while making an army to crush their last fortified base, because I know I can't lose. Is it a waste of time? Of course it is, but I like sitting around for a few extra minutes to chase down buildings and savour the win...am I the only one who thinks like this?
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You're missing the best one, at least in SC2:
Opponent: gg
You: gg
Opponent: has left the game!
You: screw off
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I play on the EU server and this _literally_ never ever happens to me. People either rage quit or gg and then leave 2 seconds later (maybe some Z imba in there, who cares).
It was a bit more common when I was still Terran and people would get frustrated after a gay 40min TvT game but as Zerg you almost never have to deal with that shit.
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Yeah, this happened to me too, they do it especially when they think they lost "unfairly". Mostly in pvp, something like they 4gate, and I 3gate blink stalker, and then they get outmicroed. Or dt rush, but i have an obs waiting..
The Thought Hammer talked about this, a game isnt over until your opponnent leaves the game. Never relax 
edit: Im on eu
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