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Wasn't sure if this should go under sc2 general, so I just put it under blogs.
Anyway, so I was playing a 1v1(zvp) and this guy said he would report me for this trick I do(he said it was an exploit, I assume your not allowed to use bugs, but I didn't think this was so much a "bug", at least not one that you couldn't do.)
What I do sometimes in ZvP is if they go for forge first into expo, I send my scouting drone to their natural, then build a hatch, cancel it, and use the creep that it generates originally to build an evo chamber. This delays their hope for a FE for at least a minute, including having them to place cannons in the position so that they can kill it. Since I only lost a little minerals, I can expand myself safely, in the lead.
But this guy said that he was going to report me for "abuse". So now I'm scared, and afraid I'm going to get banned.
Is this bannable? Furthermore, what should I do?
Poll: Is this bannable?No (255) 94% Yes (16) 6% 271 total votes Your vote: Is this bannable? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Also since some people want me to upload, and just so they can see it in action plus perhaps see his side, here's the replay.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/112915-1v1-protoss-zerg-metalopolis
  
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On December 06 2010 05:38 Pandain wrote:
Is this bannable? Furthermore, what should I do?
No. Laugh in his face.
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Creative, yes. Annoying, yes. Bannable? No...
Tell him to learn to cope with stuff like that, I actually think you were at a disadvantage because he could have easily countered by making gateways and zealot rushing.
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its not a bad innovative method of delaying their expo. protoss have pylons to block ur expo haha.
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Tell him to stop being a whiny complainer and play the game with manner.
You can't get banned for this stuff. It's smart play. >.>
I mean...unless they found a way to do allied mines in SC2.......
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On December 06 2010 05:43 Polar_Nada wrote:
its not a bad innovative method of delaying their expo. protoss have pylons to block ur expo haha.
That's what I was thinking. He is whining you are making a building to block his expo? Tell him to watch any PvZ ever and suck it up. You just found an innovative way to compete
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This is pretty awesome. You do what protoss's do and they wanna ban you for it...=P gj yo
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haha, why would you get banned for this? Thats like the old pylon block, or Supply depot block people would do against Zerg back in Brood War.
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you are cute 
and you also can't be banned for muta harass, even though its annoying too. :>
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lol, I'm going to start telling people I am reporting them for pylon blocks.
No you should not be banned for this.
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Dude you just made my day, and I'll definitely use this more and more often. Wow, so nice. Actually, would you mind uploading the replay?
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You should definitely upload this. This sounds awesome, not bannable.
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People should be banned for using banshees
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You sir, should laugh at him!
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Lolol. 1/3rd of SEA would be banned if this was bannable! Always wonder why the pro's never use this trick...
This happens all the time on SEA servers...
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Banned? no
Badged? yes
Seriously, natural block should be an achievement :D
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A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic.
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Wow, he is pissed because you wasted all of those minerals to block his expo, when Protoss waste the same amount blocking Zerg expo with a Pylon, then... I don't even know what to say -_-
This means you delayed your expo too, so you're even.
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For a second I thought this was a thread requesting a temp-ban. XD
I'm pretty sure that what you did isn't ban-able; some people are just bm/sore losers when they go up against something that they don't like.
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On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic.
Well played my friend!
This is definitely not a bannable offence. Just because you denied his expansion using a legitimate strategy... Its like banning someone because they blocked your expansion with a pylon! Oh noes!
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not a bug my friend. Blizzard is aware of this possibility and if it was a bug, they woulda include it in the PTR test notes.
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Dude, there is absolutely no way you can get banned for this. If you play him again, just do this again and laugh in his face
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Lol, thats awesome man. getting revenge on all those protoss players manner pyloning in BW and SC2 and I play P and thats still funny. This guy can't get you banned hes just a whiner. kudos to you
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On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic.
Yeah this was my first thoughts as well. No way you'll get banned for this. If anything, they'll fix the "bug", but no way in hell do I find people getting in trouble who use it.
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i actually really like this trick...super cute
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Calgary25977 Posts
Not bannable. Also I think I just played you in Sc2...
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"Clever usage of game mechanics."
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as long as you aren't using programs outside Starcraft II (i.e. maphacks, mineral hacks, ect) you should be safe from a ban; I believe even if you use the bug where you can get reapers and Colossus in places they otherwise couldn't access (Space,water, ect), is fine to. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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On December 06 2010 07:23 Chill wrote:
Not bannable. Also I think I just played you in Sc2...
n.n
it was a pleasant suprise
and thank you everyone, I feel alot more secure now.
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Well played, OP. Well played.
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lol at the 5 people who said yes hahaha
this is retarted! of course u cant get banned, it shouldnt even be a question dude... ur just building a hatch -___-
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ofc its not bannable, but convincing him it was is some recompense for using an exploit. Do you really think blizz intentioned people building evos in other people's natural? That also make broodlings that do a ridiculous amount of dmg?
This is not allowed in tournaments, which was my point. This will get patched and he's abusing it until it gets patched.
I'm sure all the zergies will be abusing this until it does, so enjoy it kiddos
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when was this not allowed in tournaments??????
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Why would you even ask? I know LOTS of Zerg players who do that.
It can't even be considered abuse or an exploit, because you're working with what you know about Zerg and making it pwn.
I'm sure this won't get patched. If this get's patched, there's absolutely no hope for the future of SC2. Seriously.
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lol, this is nothing compared to colossus in the pits on metal, or sneaking a probe through a tight pylon wall. If the game lets you do it, it can't be bannable.
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Abusing the game engine in sc was never really 'wrong', especially in this sense. Almost like an updated version of when pvz pylon block on nat. The little quirks like those are great, imagine broodwar without these quirks.
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Next time I get attacked by a phoenix, banshee, have my opponent gathering minerals, has him attacking my units, i'm going to tell him i'm reporting him and having him banned.
Just for the fun.
Thanks for the idea OP.
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lol, this also doubles as a strategy thread. I never thought about delaying a protoss FE. Thanks for bringing it up!
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On December 06 2010 07:30 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 07:23 Chill wrote:
Not bannable. Also I think I just played you in Sc2... n.n it was a pleasant suprise and thank you everyone, I feel alot more secure now.
Did you win? :D?
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wait wait... a protoss was getting mad about you stopping him from making his expo by building in its spot... so when zerg does it its abuse but when a P builds pylons where ever the hell they feel like it and just run around the map with 1 probe doing it, it's totally legit!
I apologize as a Protoss player myself..........
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On December 06 2010 08:00 Z3kk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 07:30 Pandain wrote:On December 06 2010 07:23 Chill wrote:
Not bannable. Also I think I just played you in Sc2... n.n it was a pleasant suprise and thank you everyone, I feel alot more secure now. Did you win? :D?
i tried to 14 hatch on steppes :/
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Hell no! There's no glitch at all involved. Its just usage of the game mechanics :O...
imo
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On December 06 2010 07:53 muse5187 wrote:
Abusing the game engine in sc was never really 'wrong', especially in this sense. Almost like an updated version of when pvz pylon block on nat. The little quirks like those are great, imagine broodwar without these quirks.
funny you should mention bw quirks, everyone loved putting obs over turrets as they were making. It was abusing the game engine was it not? It was also banned and deemed an exploit. Thanks for making my point
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On December 06 2010 07:36 LumberJack wrote:
ofc its not bannable, but convincing him it was is some recompense for using an exploit. Do you really think blizz intentioned people building evos in other people's natural? That also make broodlings that do a ridiculous amount of dmg?
This is not allowed in tournaments, which was my point. This will get patched and he's abusing it until it gets patched.
I'm sure all the zergies will be abusing this until it does, so enjoy it kiddos
Really? What tournament are you referring to? Cause every tournament I know about (which is quite a few) could care less. It's a calculated risk. Also very cool.
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On December 06 2010 08:08 LumberJack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 07:53 muse5187 wrote:
Abusing the game engine in sc was never really 'wrong', especially in this sense. Almost like an updated version of when pvz pylon block on nat. The little quirks like those are great, imagine broodwar without these quirks. funny you should mention bw quirks, everyone loved putting obs over turrets as they were making. It was abusing the game engine was it not? It was also banned and deemed an exploit. Thanks for making my point
It was also unbanned not long after, also why are you being aggressive I don't even know who you are. Further more just because wgt and iccup banned ob over turret for a short time, that doesn't mean shit since this thread is about consequences from blizzard which was never the case. And before you even try to come with false facts, turret block was always legal in pro gaming, just like all the quirks. I honestly think someone did it to you now you are so mad. cry me a river
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On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic.
Exactly that...
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On December 06 2010 07:36 LumberJack wrote:
ofc its not bannable, but convincing him it was is some recompense for using an exploit. Do you really think blizz intentioned people building evos in other people's natural? That also make broodlings that do a ridiculous amount of dmg?
This is not allowed in tournaments, which was my point. This will get patched and he's abusing it until it gets patched.
I'm sure all the zergies will be abusing this until it does, so enjoy it kiddos
Do you really think blizz "intentioned" for muta stack, larva pull, or burrow push? Really what the fuck are you trying to argue here?
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On December 06 2010 06:22 jacosajh wrote:
Wow, he is pissed because you wasted all of those minerals to block his expo, when Protoss waste the same amount blocking Zerg expo with a Pylon, then... I don't even know what to say -_-
This means you delayed your expo too, so you're even.
Yea but he doesn't see that.
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On December 06 2010 08:22 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic. Exactly that...
i like how people are completely unable to make an unbiased opinion as if you can define me by my race i chose. Im a 2200 zerg as well, and Id never use this exploit on a toss, i dont need to to win.
But its funny that since you couldnt make an unbiased, you'd just assume its from the protoss perspective and not from a player with 11yrs xp perspective. Keep trollin
User was temp banned for this post.
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On December 06 2010 08:43 LumberJack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 08:22 PH wrote:On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic. Exactly that... i like how people are completely unable to make an unbiased opinion as if you can define me by my race i chose. Im a 2200 zerg as well, and Id never use this exploit on a toss, i dont need to to win. But its funny that since you couldnt make an unbiased, you'd just assume its from the protoss perspective and not from a player with 11yrs xp perspective. Keep trollin
Ah, completely ignore my posts after you attack me for no reason. Also I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you type anyway. You need to double check your posts, basically unreadable. But what ever someone proves you wrong and you ignore them and attack a different user, nothing new at this forum.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Hahaha this is not bannable and should be an achievement.
Z denying p an expo? fuckin gold!
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lol fucking ridiculous
of course its not bannable, its wp
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On December 06 2010 08:43 LumberJack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 08:22 PH wrote:On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic. Exactly that... i like how people are completely unable to make an unbiased opinion as if you can define me by my race i chose. Im a 2200 zerg as well, and Id never use this exploit on a toss, i dont need to to win. But its funny that since you couldnt make an unbiased, you'd just assume its from the protoss perspective and not from a player with 11yrs xp perspective. Keep trollin
Same to you.
In any case, I highly highly HIGHLY doubt this will get patched. It's not an exploit, it's a strategy. If it works, great, if not, you'll be set back. Like other strategies. Even if they piss you off, it's still a strategy. Just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's an exploit.
Just because you're 'better than that' or something. Reminder: You probably did cheese when you weren't as good, too.
In any case, it's a fun thing to do. Not everyone plays to win, and not everyone plays to be SUPAR SRS. Doing fun things like that, and the air walking colossi and reapers is just meant for fun. Not to make u sew mad.
But I'm sure the colossi/reaper trick on the air will be patched 
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On December 06 2010 08:43 LumberJack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 08:22 PH wrote:On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic. Exactly that... i like how people are completely unable to make an unbiased opinion as if you can define me by my race i chose. Im a 2200 zerg as well, and Id never use this exploit on a toss, i dont need to to win. But its funny that since you couldnt make an unbiased, you'd just assume its from the protoss perspective and not from a player with 11yrs xp perspective. Keep trollin
there's no need to:
1) cite your rank/race to give credibility to self, unless you're very high ranked and not well known
2) call someone a troll in order to invalidate argument
3) say someone is young/immature to invalidate argument
4) make assumptions about the other's perspective, if it's not obvious
this argument is becoming painful to watch
if you have an argument for why you think it's bannable, please say it clearly and without fettering it
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On December 06 2010 08:43 LumberJack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 08:22 PH wrote:On December 06 2010 06:17 shindigs wrote:
A protoss player is pissed because a Zerg is denying his expo? This is the very definition of ironic. Exactly that... i like how people are completely unable to make an unbiased opinion as if you can define me by my race i chose. Im a 2200 zerg as well, and Id never use this exploit on a toss, i dont need to to win. But its funny that since you couldnt make an unbiased, you'd just assume its from the protoss perspective and not from a player with 11yrs xp perspective. Keep trollin
And I suppose you never needed to use a glitch in bw to win either? Never stacked any mutas? Never right clicked on any minerals to get a worker past ground units? Get off your high horse.
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On December 06 2010 08:08 LumberJack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 07:53 muse5187 wrote:
Abusing the game engine in sc was never really 'wrong', especially in this sense. Almost like an updated version of when pvz pylon block on nat. The little quirks like those are great, imagine broodwar without these quirks. funny you should mention bw quirks, everyone loved putting obs over turrets as they were making. It was abusing the game engine was it not? It was also banned and deemed an exploit. Thanks for making my point
Your right, they should ban muta stacking in BW too. And also delaying a Zerg's expo with a pylon? Every single Protoss to ever play on Iccup should be banned for this horrible, unfair exploit. I agree with your well thought out point.
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I'm so going to do this from now on.
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Ban-able? No.
Hilarious? Yes!
I also like it in zvz where my opponent wastes money on an evo so when I kill it the broodlings will win some kind of advantage.
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Seems fair imo. I mean P can make pylons in your natural so why not?
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Why did you even think for one moment that you would get banned?
It's not even credible that you would be banned for this...
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I thought this was a thread made by someone asking to get banned on TL.
I am disappointed. :[
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Just watched the replay, the burrowed roach under his planned expansion was fun too! That was just him talking out of frustration because you out-smarted him twice :D
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