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DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
November 29 2010 05:21 GMT
#1
So I was getting frustrated with Starcraft couple weeks ago. I simply had no real idea of how to beat zergs and terrans anymore(mostly zerg). So I decided to take a break.

You know how you learn something, and you don't get it right a way? But you go back at it after a bit and it makes perfect sense? This happened to me countless times with school work. So I figured some time off would be good. So, for the past 2 weeks, I have not played a single starcraft game. I went back to my summer addiction, league of legends, and started starcraft again yesterday.

All I know, is that shit does not work.

I just couldn't play anymore. I kept dying to really stupid rushes, and not macroing. I was messing up forcefields, I was giving move instead of attack commands.... it was not pretty.

Lesson learned. Don't ever take break from playing starcraft. This is gonna suck trying to get my skill back...

**
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
November 29 2010 05:23 GMT
#2
Does the fact of having a giant bonus pool help? Blizzard claims that having a giant bonus pool helps you get back on your feet faster!

+ Show Spoiler +
It shouldn't be that hard to get your skills back. Taking a break is good from time to time...I think you just forgot how much you sucked before! =P jk
Jaedong :3
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 05:30:56
November 29 2010 05:30 GMT
#3
> Implying Sc2 requires skill



What league are you in btw? You don't really need any skill other than a little mental reminder that says "MAAAAAAACROOO" every 15 seconds to reach Diamond lol

Also if you're consistently losing to really early rushes then either your opening build order is wrong, or you're not laying down your stuff right after you have enough money (for example pylon on 125 minerals instead of 100, gateway in 165 minerals instead of 150, expo at 450 minerals instead of 400, etc, and before you know it you're like half a minute behind where you should be.

Best of luck
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
November 29 2010 05:32 GMT
#4
On November 29 2010 14:30 SubtleArt wrote:
> Implying Sc2 requires skill



What league are you in btw? You don't really need any skill other than a little mental reminder that says "MAAAAAAACROOO" every 15 seconds to reach Diamond lol

Also if you're consistently losing to really early rushes then either your opening build order is wrong, or you're not laying down your stuff right after you have enough money (for example pylon on 125 minerals instead of 100, gateway in 165 minerals instead of 150, expo at 450 minerals instead of 400, etc, and before you know it you're like half a minute behind where you should be.

Best of luck



So true, the other day I lost to a rush simply because I got supply blocked by 3 seconds right at the time when my opponent decided to rush, so I couldnt warp in those key sentries and zealots on time. Made me rage so fckin hard lol.

To OP : It could just be an off day, don't worry you'll be back to snapping necks and pwning noobs in no time
Envy fan since NTH.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
November 29 2010 05:39 GMT
#5
For me it is the other way around. When I take a break I come back better, while not mechanically sound, because I have clearer mind at what my goal in the game overall should be and not "how to not die to die"
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2010 05:45 GMT
#6
I always do better at games after a break. It lets me shake the emotional stigma of being on a losing streak and play calmer/clearer.
RIP Aaliyah
JadeFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1225 Posts
November 29 2010 05:53 GMT
#7
On November 29 2010 14:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I always do better at games after a break. It lets me shake the emotional stigma of being on a losing streak and play calmer/clearer.

Same. After a two week break though I too would feel rusty. If you are a regular starcraft player, a 3-4 day break every once in a while is great at helping you feel fresh.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
November 29 2010 05:54 GMT
#8
I took a week off before a LAN this weekend, and while my mechanics were a little off, I didn't play any worse. I've found taking breaks can help your game mentally, anyway, but you're also going to lose some of the internalized skills.
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
November 29 2010 05:57 GMT
#9
StarCraft, especially StarCraft II, as much as people would like it to be, is not as dependent on theory as it is on mechanics. Even if you feel as if you understand more at the end of the two weeks, it isn't going to mean anything if you can't play properly anymore.
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Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
November 29 2010 06:23 GMT
#10
On November 29 2010 14:57 Loser777 wrote:
StarCraft, especially StarCraft II, as much as people would like it to be, is not as dependent on theory as it is on mechanics. Even if you feel as if you understand more at the end of the two weeks, it isn't going to mean anything if you can't play properly anymore.

switch starcraft and starcraft 2 around and ur sentence makes sense.
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
November 29 2010 07:50 GMT
#11
I definitely think that taking a break does help you regain composure after a frustrating set of losses, but two weeks is too long.
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
November 29 2010 08:36 GMT
#12
i took a pretty long break (neen playing cod) and lost the first 5 games i played. that shit definitely does not work...
spoolinoveryou
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States503 Posts
November 29 2010 09:18 GMT
#13
I went on a 1 week vacation and felt my timings were a little off. It's better to get some practice games with some friends or even custom games before you ladder. Don't let loses hold you back!
whats good?
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 09:29:01
November 29 2010 09:26 GMT
#14
In the past little while (you could say 2 weeks) most of the important matchups in SC2 have changed massively. If you haven't been keeping up, that could explain why you're losing to "stupid" things recently. That said, I doubt any of this makes a difference below a certain level, so it depends on where you are.

Also, it depends on what kind of player you are. Some people get good on pure practice and keeping their mind in the game, while some people can take long breaks and be just as good (for example NonY/Tyler).
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
November 29 2010 09:39 GMT
#15
Hey man I had the same thing. Didn't play for just 1 week and I felt how bad my skills have become. After an hour I managed to get my skills back and was able to macro even better than before. Can't imagine if u don't play for months ><

Didn't take that hard for me but knowing and performing is different like u have experienced. Many people criticizing others how they play is sure good and stuff but doing it themselves is another matter which 99% of the player base don't understand (99% is a bit exaggerated but trying to prove a point). I knew what I had to do but doing it was very tough. Only after like an hour was my macro back to where it was before when I stopped playing for just 1 week ><

U just gotta do some forced discipline and focus on certain mechanics when learning to become better. Like don't play with sound and play without hotkeys when learning to macro. These 2 things helped me a lot as I am still currently trying to become better in the fastest possible way.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 29 2010 14:05 GMT
#16
Ive been taking breaks like that from BW and they always helped me figure out how to adapt and play against something that I used to lose to. It just helped me get a new perspective on things, and most people I know feel the same way. Your mechanics will suffer for a day or two but if you play 10 15 games a day and focus on your mechanics you will bounce right back, and be a better player, at least thats how I feel.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
November 29 2010 14:12 GMT
#17
Isn't this basically why they set up the Airforce ACE team?
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
November 29 2010 17:21 GMT
#18
Yall got it all wrong.

The formula is go on vacation for a week in Thailand, come back without practicing, win the MSL.

Generally, when I take breaks, if I'm playing another competitive game (a fighter), my mechanics might take a hit but I learn more from my matches and even my mechanics become stronger than they previously were after just a bit of practice.

Oddly enough, the reverse is also true. After playing sc2 for a week I can go back and do combos I couldn't do before in fighters.

But, if I take a break because I'm just working extra or it's a holiday so I spend all my free time just eating with family and catching up on sleep, I'm terribad when I try to play again.
theshrabster
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19 Posts
November 29 2010 21:18 GMT
#19
I definitely am having this problem myself; a few weeks ago I was a 1700 point toss player when the #1 global was around 2300, so I wasn't like TOP TOP but I was pretty up there. I took a several week break to get through midterms and when I come back to SC, I can't beat a 3 rax anymore, which used to be the easiest win for me, and zerg went from about a 70% win ratio to about a 30%. So now I'm sitting on a 250 point bonus pool, and almost no desire to play, which compounds the problem. The only real option is to just suck it up and basically mass game until you become re-acquainted with the meta-game. GL man
Lucien, Protoss, Masters
DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
November 29 2010 22:43 GMT
#20
On November 29 2010 14:30 SubtleArt wrote:
> Implying Sc2 requires skill



What league are you in btw? You don't really need any skill other than a little mental reminder that says "MAAAAAAACROOO" every 15 seconds to reach Diamond lol

Also if you're consistently losing to really early rushes then either your opening build order is wrong, or you're not laying down your stuff right after you have enough money (for example pylon on 125 minerals instead of 100, gateway in 165 minerals instead of 150, expo at 450 minerals instead of 400, etc, and before you know it you're like half a minute behind where you should be.

Best of luck


I'm was 1800 Diamond when I left. I am dying to a lot of early rushes because my micro falls off, or I mess up positioning. And I loose long term games because I don't macro enough. Idk, just need to get in a very good practice session this weekend if I can squeeze it in.
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
November 30 2010 00:09 GMT
#21
On November 29 2010 14:23 ReketSomething wrote:
Does the fact of having a giant bonus pool help? Blizzard claims that having a giant bonus pool helps you get back on your feet faster!

+ Show Spoiler +
It shouldn't be that hard to get your skills back. Taking a break is good from time to time...I think you just forgot how much you sucked before! =P jk


i think it would help more if the game matched you up against weaker opponents after an extended off-period so as to avoid the massive losing streak.
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