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(it's late, I might not make any sense here, but meh.)
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!" or "I hope Blizzard/Gretech wins the lawsuit, and then charges them more!".
I don't think these people really understand WHAT will happen if BW dies, in the context of SC2, since that's the only thing the majority of the newer community cares about.
BW is, currently, the ONLY proven, competitive (and don't say SC2 to me, SC2 is only a few months from release, definately not proven competitive) RTS in the world. If it dies? Then SC2 will have a monopoly over RTS and, as such, esports - and what happens when a company has a monopoly? They can do WHATEVER the hell they want. Charge you £50 for an expansion? WHY SURE, it's not like we have any competitors!
Blizzard has already shown us that WILL exert this kind of monopoly by giving Gretech licensing rights and charging for broadcasting SC2 - all this is leading to further and further control by Blizzard (including bnet without LAN = no private servers and, if private servers come for tournaments only, I'm betting Blizzard will charge even more); and, eventually, it will lead up to the point where sustaining SC2 expansions is not profitable any more - then, because they were let to have this kind of monopoly, Blizzard can just completely pull the plug on tournaments - it's happening with BW, and it WILL happen with WC4 or whatever game they want to market as their new "ESPORTS!" game. Likewise, if Blizzard has complete control and a monopoly over RTS esports (remember no private servers and no LAN), they can just release a new patch, which completely fucks over balance or results in boring gameplay, when they want to bring out WC4 or SC3 -- well, they don't have any competitors, after all!
Blind fanboyism won't work out. Blind fanboyism results in a game very much like WC3; whereby 1 race is completely knocked out at a pro level; yet, the fanbase kept hoping that Blizzard would release a promised balance patch - which never came. However, there was, and still is (?), nothing like WC3 - hence, why the fanbase clung to it.
"BUT BLIZZARD WON'T DO THIS!". They most certainly will. The Blizzard of the past isn't what it is today. When Activision merged, they have, in my eyes, taken a huge downturn, in to what I see as an anticompetitive company.
  
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I've seen your posts all over the BW forums, and they are the definition of blind fanboyism.
The concern I have for BW dying is not some Blizzard monopoly conspiracy theory, but that the 10 years of BW infrastructure--channels, teams, salaries, events--will crumble. There needs to be a slow and natural transition, if there is one at all.
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To be fair..
On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
BW is, currently, the ONLY proven, competitive (and don't say SC2 to me, SC2 is only a few months from release, definately not proven competitive) RTS in the world. If it dies? Then SC2 will have a monopoly over RTS and, as such, esports - and what happens when a company has a monopoly? They can do WHATEVER the hell they want. Charge you £50 for an expansion? WHY SURE, it's not like we have any competitors!
You talk about how BW is the only competitive RTS and if it dies then SC2 will have a monopoly over RTS, except for the part where BW and Blizzard and has a monopoly over the competitive RTS scene for years. Yeah they can charge us £50 for an expansion, but they could have done the exact same thing during Brood War's prime. If Brood War dies, there is no "shift in the RTS esports monopoly" - Blizzard has had it all along..
That being said too, having the "only competitive RTS" game doesn't mean they own the RTS market. People are still going to buy Age of Empires, and Company of Heroes, and Dawn of War, and Command and Conquer games regardless of what Blizzard does.
Also.. if Blizzard does completely ruin the competitive nature of Starcraft II because they are an anti-competitive company, that leaves the door open for any other game to step into the spotlight (and I'm sure there's not a developer/publisher out there who wouldn't want a piece of the pie like SCII holds). I know a lot of people love the game despite some of it's flaws, but if Blizzard comes out and starts trashing the competitive scene because they refuse to create new, balanced maps and completely thrash the balance of the game - then SCII will die as a competitive game and they won't "withhold" their monopoly.
Overall: Brood War eventually will run it's course, and players may transfer and the league may die, but Brood War as a game will never die. Besides, this topic has been discussed in a bazillion threads and it's the natural life cycle of esports and gaming in general. There's a reason people aren't playing Quake 1 or Halo 1 competitively anymore.
edit: Touching on another point, regardless if Blizzard came around and started selling the next two Starcraft II expansions for $100 each, I can guarantee you people would buy it regardless of how many they say wont - (anyone remember MW2 on PC and how everyone wasn't going to buy it due to the lack of private servers? That sure turned out hey?) - they will anyways, and that's the reason they start micro transactions, and selling maps, and selling low-content expansions, etc..
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My concern is that I think Blizzard makes eSports look very unattractive to investors when they are being so controlling over it. Who wants to put their money into something that is at the whim of Blizzard? Blizzard is proving themselves to be irresponsible and inconsiderate of those who've put their lives into eSports, so it sets a poor precedent for future negotiations they might make.
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On November 14 2010 10:56 Chef wrote:
My concern is that I think Blizzard makes eSports look very unattractive to investors when they are being so controlling over it. Who wants to put their money into something that is at the whim of Blizzard? Blizzard is proving themselves to be irresponsible and inconsiderate of those who've put their lives into eSports, so it sets a poor precedent for future negotiations they might make.
This is where I wish companies such as EA or Valve would step up and release a fantastic, well-balanced (of course not instantly but over time) RTS and fully support the esports community. To see a company pump money into tournaments, listen to the user base (it feels as though Blizzard has lost touch with its user base over the years), and really push the game into a competitive atmosphere.
By doing so, it'd force Blizzard to step up it's game and start being more pro-active with balance patches and listening to the community's feedback when it comes to issues such as balance, maps, and the Battle.net platform.
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I feel the same way as you, OP. I don't like the way SC2 fanboys and bandwagoners are completely disregarding BW and what it's done for competitive gaming either.
However, most of what you're saying is pretty baseless bordering absurd.
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On November 14 2010 11:02 Graham wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 10:56 Chef wrote:
My concern is that I think Blizzard makes eSports look very unattractive to investors when they are being so controlling over it. Who wants to put their money into something that is at the whim of Blizzard? Blizzard is proving themselves to be irresponsible and inconsiderate of those who've put their lives into eSports, so it sets a poor precedent for future negotiations they might make. This is where I wish companies such as EA or Valve would step up and release a fantastic, well-balanced (of course not instantly but over time) RTS and fully support the esports community. To see a company pump money into tournaments, listen to the user base (it feels as though Blizzard has lost touch with its user base over the years), and really push the game into a competitive atmosphere. By doing so, it'd force Blizzard to step up it's game and start being more pro-active with balance patches and listening to the community's feedback when it comes to issues such as balance, maps, and the Battle.net platform.
Well really, it's kind of odd for the creator of the game to set up the tournaments and pay for the prize pool to begin with... At least on this scale. I can't call it cheating, but lol... BW has sponsors that aren't Blizzard, and I think that says something about legitimacy as a sport.
Imagine I were a rich kid and I invented some game. "Okay, how can I make people play my game over the tried and true games that already exist and prosper... I know, I'll give a million dollars to the winner of a tournament for my game!" I can't read minds, but I'd say that's about the only reason any SC1 pros have switched over (who by and large aren't going to see anymore money in SC1 since the game is so hard). I'm sure Blizzard is hoping that their game will get popular enough to attract real sponsors, but this kind of method is a bit ugly to me.
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On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!"
I've seen this occasionally in BW forums but not enougth for it to bother me. Does this kind of statement pop up more in SC2 forums? I wouldn't know because i keep all the SC2 tabs closed =S.
These kinds of posts shouldn't worry anyone. I mean really... expressing the wish that BW will die and then claiming apathy...
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On November 14 2010 11:22 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!" I've seen this occasionally in BW forums but not enougth for it to bother me. Does this kind of statement pop up more in SC2 forums? I wouldn't know because i keep all the SC2 tabs closed =S. These kinds of posts shouldn't worry anyone. I mean really... expressing the wish that BW will die and then claiming apathy...
I don't visit the SC2 forums either (with the exception of the single player subforum occasionally), and so I didn't really care, but ever since every interview or translation gets bumped into the "Community News" section those threads end up a cesspool of insults (like the ones Garrl mentioned). Community News is kind of annoying in general, since it mixes both BW and SC2 and many people care for one and not the other. It makes sifting for news harder because now you check both BW/SC2 general and sift through community news, but thats another story for another time. To answer your question, yes I see those comments in community news in many of the bw translation threads that end up there (couldn't tell you about the sc2 threads there since I don't really know).
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A bit poorly written if you ask me...
You paint charging $50 for an expansion pack as a nightmare example? Come on, we all know 95+ % of this community would pay that for Heart of the Swarm. It's easily worth even more if you base the value on content and playtime.
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On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!".
Who has said this in all seriousness? I haven't heard anyone
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On November 14 2010 11:33 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!".
Who has said this in all seriousness? I haven't heard anyone
On November 14 2010 08:07 darmousseh wrote:
I hope gretech wins and then changes the terms to 200,000,000 won per season.
Who indeed.
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On November 14 2010 11:22 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!" I've seen this occasionally in BW forums but not enougth for it to bother me. Does this kind of statement pop up more in SC2 forums? I wouldn't know because i keep all the SC2 tabs closed =S. These kinds of posts shouldn't worry anyone. I mean really... expressing the wish that BW will die and then claiming apathy...
It appears on both forums, in both directions, and BW elitists claim ignorance as if the SC2 part of the community is the only one with idiots. I read "I wish Blizzard and SC2 would fail I don't care about it!" every damn day from the idiots from the BW side who wander over into the SC2 forums. Likewise I read ignorant SC2 fans trash talking the BW peeps.
I like both games, and both sides have retarded people who spout idiotic statements.
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People who reply to this need to keep in mind that this is all opinion, these aren't facts.
Just throwing that out there...
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My concern is blizz monopoly over sc2. They have complete control over sc2, even fan-made sc2 videos is owned by blizz. That's ridiculous.
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When and if BW dies, let this old veteran, pioneer of e-sports, die with the greatest honors a game could receive. Dying because of a lawsuit, killed by its own parents is something BW doesnt deserve.
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On November 14 2010 11:33 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!".
Who has said this in all seriousness? I haven't heard anyone
You'll undoubtedly find some if you sift through these threads. There's been a lot of trash talk from both sides, and I find a lot of it really rests on assumptions. If Blizzard wins AND BW takes a nosedive from there, THEN we can conclude that Blizzard killed BW. I say we follow Milkis' advice and see how this plays out before saying anything. SC2 fans who haven't experienced BW and BW fans who haven't experienced SC2 are simply giving heavily opinionated arguments all over the place, and it's no good for the community at all.
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Did you specifically link a post that I made or Quasar made.....because I've made my stance clear in all this shit anyway.I guess because of a lot of posts that I make are more in defense of blizzard than the defense of KeSPA you would all assume that I am more of an SC2 fanboy than a BW fanboy which is not true.
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On November 14 2010 11:17 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 11:02 Graham wrote:On November 14 2010 10:56 Chef wrote:
My concern is that I think Blizzard makes eSports look very unattractive to investors when they are being so controlling over it. Who wants to put their money into something that is at the whim of Blizzard? Blizzard is proving themselves to be irresponsible and inconsiderate of those who've put their lives into eSports, so it sets a poor precedent for future negotiations they might make. This is where I wish companies such as EA or Valve would step up and release a fantastic, well-balanced (of course not instantly but over time) RTS and fully support the esports community. To see a company pump money into tournaments, listen to the user base (it feels as though Blizzard has lost touch with its user base over the years), and really push the game into a competitive atmosphere. By doing so, it'd force Blizzard to step up it's game and start being more pro-active with balance patches and listening to the community's feedback when it comes to issues such as balance, maps, and the Battle.net platform. Well really, it's kind of odd for the creator of the game to set up the tournaments and pay for the prize pool to begin with... At least on this scale. I can't call it cheating, but lol... BW has sponsors that aren't Blizzard, and I think that says something about legitimacy as a sport. Imagine I were a rich kid and I invented some game. "Okay, how can I make people play my game over the tried and true games that already exist and prosper... I know, I'll give a million dollars to the winner of a tournament for my game!" I can't read minds, but I'd say that's about the only reason any SC1 pros have switched over (who by and large aren't going to see anymore money in SC1 since the game is so hard). I'm sure Blizzard is hoping that their game will get popular enough to attract real sponsors, but this kind of method is a bit ugly to me.
Well, SC2 is one of the first games ever released with E-sports in mind. I can imagine people at Blizzard sitting down and saying "okay, how can we make this game easy and fun to watch for viewers".
And besides, Sony Ericsson and Intel are sponsors for GSL?
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lol @ this. a blind fanboy complaining about blind fanboyism.
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On November 14 2010 11:46 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 11:33 happyness wrote:On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!".
Who has said this in all seriousness? I haven't heard anyone You'll undoubtedly find some if you sift through these threads. There's been a lot of trash talk from both sides, and I find a lot of it really rests on assumptions. If Blizzard wins AND BW takes a nosedive from there, THEN we can conclude that Blizzard killed BW. I say we follow Milkis' advice and see how this plays out before saying anything. SC2 fans who haven't experienced BW and BW fans who haven't experienced SC2 are simply giving heavily opinionated arguments all over the place, and it's no good for the community at all.
I don't know, waiting for something I love to die in the shadow of something I find mediocre isn't a fair shake for me, or any other BW fan. But we're vastly outnumbered nowadays and, let's be honest, our favorite site has its own SC2 team. The transition is obvious and it blows for people who find SC2 uninspiring.
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BW is, currently, the ONLY proven, competitive (and don't say SC2 to me, SC2 is only a few months from release, definately not proven competitive) RTS in the world.
Your whole post is about how are you against monopoly and yet you says that BW has the monopoly over competitive e-sports. So according to you, the past 10 years have been horrible for Esports because BW has the monopoly?
In any case, i do hope BW can survive especially because all the infrastructure and system it has put in are advanced and it will be a waste to see everything Esports related start from scratch again.
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A lot of what you post, here and in other sections of the forum, begin with things like "the general consensus is" or "i've seen a lot of people saying."
We need a [citation needed] tag for posts like yours.
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On November 14 2010 12:04 toadstool wrote:lol @ this. a blind fanboy complaining about blind fanboyism.
How is he a blind fanboy?
He is being objective about what was written in the blog, completely unbiased.
Get your head out of your ass before you post plz.
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If you see people saying they want BW to just die let me know it's not a comment we appreciate on here. This site has built everything it is with BW for people to just come in and make comments like that is ridiculous.
That said though I think most of your post is bullshit especially the price related part. Other games out there are usually played for like 20 hours before people stop touching them whereas Blizzard games can be enjoyed for thousands of hours of play and additional viewing pleasure. For them to charge more like OMG 50 pounds is not something that bothers me at all.
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On November 14 2010 12:08 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I don't know, waiting for something I love to die in the shadow of something I find mediocre isn't a fair shake for me, or any other BW fan. But we're vastly outnumbered nowadays and, let's be honest, our favorite site has its own SC2 team. The transition is obvious and it blows for people who find SC2 uninspiring.
Clearly the solution is to make the most of BW right now rather than waiting for it to die.
I've seen lots of games that I loved die, or deteriorate, or all my friends stop playing, or the community changes. It happens. Sometimes, you just gotta play until you can't. When there's no longer a moderated BW forum on TL people can start crying foul. Some trolling on the Internet? That's nothing, especially when it happens about equally on both sides.
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i dont know where people get this whole they will charge £50 for an expansion stuff... they already basically have an monopoly on subscription based MMO's with WoW and don't do it...... they have the only MMO based esport in the world and they do very well for themselves off it.
BW will die, it is inevitable. Whether it dies now or in two years it wont make any real difference to SC2 apart from how long the sc1 pros take to come over... and they're coming over fast atm. Most new sc2 players dont care if broodwar lives or dies, they might rage about stuff but in reality it doesnt effect them, the older players have moved on and look back with fond memories.
The only people who care are the die hard BW fans, thats the way its supposed to be. The fans determine how long a game lives not the developers, many games have great lvies after the developers check out, my fav game of all time was Starfleet Command: Orion Pirates which still is going years after the developers gave up on it, there are new community based mods and tourneys etc all the time, the game played now is nothing like the original, all new ship models, all new ships, all new maps etc..... BW will only die when the fans let it die.... so really stop moaning about blizz and sc2 and play the damn game you want to play! Thats how you keep it going.
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On November 14 2010 12:23 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
If you see people saying they want BW to just die let me know it's not a comment we appreciate on here. This site has built everything it is with BW for people to just come in and make comments like that is ridiculous.
That said though I think most of your post is bullshit especially the price related part. Other games out there are usually played for like 20 hours before people stop touching them whereas Blizzard games can be enjoyed for thousands of hours of play and additional viewing pleasure. For them to charge more like OMG 50 pounds is not something that bothers me at all.
hahaha spot on,
I mean blizzard is actually doing a lot of good things for the community (ehem except the balance issues ehem) They've already made pre paid cards so that the poor masses can play the game (look at SEA server, that will be filled with new players who couldn't afford the 60 dollar Sea version).
I also don't think BW will die as of the moment, might take more than that (gretech lawsuit) to finish off something so awesome.
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On November 14 2010 11:37 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 11:33 happyness wrote:On November 14 2010 10:34 Garrl wrote:
I've seen a lot of people saying "I wish BW would die and the proes would move on, I don't care about it!".
Who has said this in all seriousness? I haven't heard anyone Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 08:07 darmousseh wrote:
I hope gretech wins and then changes the terms to 200,000,000 won per season. Who indeed.
Oh man i just came across that post in that "final offer" thread. Disgusting really =="
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BW won't die. I'll still play! 
And I mean....you still get certain streams who are returning to the BW scene to play it again. I don't think the death of the teams and all of that stuff is enough to "kill" the game....
If anything, there are still a lot of SC fans who alternate between the games.
I do at least. >.>
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lol i hope you weren't referring to my post when you said "charge them more". I love watching brood war and was fine with kespa and ogn and mbc until the minute they decided to stop negotiating for IP rights. As a software developer myself I know how frustrating it can be when someone takes your IP and uses it for their personal gain. Software is not something you can "own", it is a license to use an executable file within a given terms of service. If you do not agree to these terms, then don't buy the game. One of the terms with starcraft is that you will not broadcast starcraft without the consent of blizzard. This is a very clear cut law that makes sense and not only is this a law in the US, but it is protected by international IP. Before, you had to go to every country and ask for IP rights, but now you can get the IP in one country, and by treaty that IP belongs in all countries.
Blizzard winning this lawsuit is significantly more important than any money that blizzard can make (which is frankly 0 after the effort they put into negotiations). Blizzard only wants to make sure that their IP rights are respected in korea. Blizzard has no desire to kill BW or force players to switch over. Blizzard knows that good players will play sc2 anyway, what blizzard does not want is to threaten the life of SC2. If blizzard does not sue mbc or ogn, then they might start casting sc2 leagues and cite the fact that they were able to run sc1 without any interruption. For blizzard, this lawsuit is more about protecting the sc2 brand than stopping BW.
As far as the perspective of MBC and OGN, they are ok with being sued because they know that if they lose, they can countersue kespa. If MBC loses, they will blame kespa for illegally selling liscences to a game they do not own, this will either result in a negotation, or in another lawsuit. Kespa has been approved by the ministry of culture, however, the ministry of culture is not neccesarily aware of the IP rights regarding broadcasting and probably just turned a blind eye.
I forsee 2 possible outcomes from this whole thing.
1. Blizzard gets an injunction, and then OGN and MBC agree to the terms previously presented to them. OGN and MBC go to kespa and negotiate a contract to keep the leagues going. Total downtime? 1 day.
2. Blizzard gets and injunction, OGN and MBC decide to suspend all of the leagues. They then go on a smear campaign against blizzard and try to explain their side in the media. Kespa then goes to blizzard and negotiates a sub-liscening contract for starcraft BW only and agrees to limit the number of subliscences and other terms. Kespa then goes to OGN and MBC and renegotiates all of the leagues. Total downtime? 2-3 weeks.
I don't see how any other possible outcome can happen. If blizzard loses, then the international court will step in and overrule korea. If blizzard wins and OGN and MBC decide to cancel all of the leagues because of "no profit", then gretech will simply take over and start doing BW tournaments. Kespa does not want this to happen, so i don't see this happening.
Whether or not broadcasting video games is counted as an IP is a totally different issue that might deserve attention in the future, but is not the issue at hand. Current law is on blizzard's favor, and renegotiating IP law internationally could take 10-20 years, so it's not going to happen.
There are 2 ways of looking at things: 1. injecting your personal opinion about who is right and wrong for whatever you want 2. Looking at all of the facts and coming to a conclusion objectively. IMO I don't think blizzard should sue ogn or mbc, i think it's bad press and it will definitely hurt BW in some way, but the fact is blizzard owns the IP and there is no arguing against that.
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Didn't Milkis say that we're not IP rights lawyers and not to act like we're going to know what the outcome of the lawsuit is going to be? Directed at above ^
Some things said about Blizzard in this thread:
MMO based e-sport: MLG has already pulled it out of Dallas due to awful balance from Blizzard (they said arena in Cataclysm is unplayable or something to that effect). (The scene was caster-dominant for 11 months plus and Blizzard never did anything. It's also horribly one sided and boring to watch -> WoW players can side with me on this.) Could Blizzard decide to do this to SC2 one day? Possibly.
Pre-paid game cards: Doesn't this seem to be like WoW subscription style money grabbing to you? As many people have said, if Blizzard games are that good, no one would find $60 too steep to pay for a game you can spend countless hours on. Why the game cards? If people found the game great to play during the Free Play weekend wouldn't they just buy it?
Playing BW: I know many people like me, don't have the hand speed/game sense to bother playing SC:BW regularly, but still enjoy watching and following the BW scene due to the sheer intensity of the gameplay and the entertainment value. Watching the players do ridiculous things that we cannot emulate and only marvel at is part of the magic that is pro-BW. If it dies, the game is as good as dead, I think most of the people that still play are motivated by the pro-scene anyway.
As for the OP, while it is mostly speculation, I believe most fans of SC should be able to sympathize with it. I'm sure that some people out there believe that Blizzard is not justified to take full control of their game with the lack of basic support features (chat and LAN obviously), and thus their move to enforce their IP rights on BW (to control it) is seen as a move to hurt it as they don't seem competent enough to handle it.
Of course my post is opinion too, feel free to disagree with it, but as a long time supporter of Blizzard games since WC3 (picked up BW after it), and a huge WoW fanatic it pains me to see them head in this direction. (I also play SC2, and I feel that it could have been much more, new game as it is, but it was released lacking a handful of things, something I feel Blizzard has not done prior to 2007.) Also, I can't help but feel that the expansions are just a delaying tactic for people to keep their faith in Blizzard (yeah it may be new, but we gotta wait for all the expansions (after like 2-4 years) to really see how it is going to be successful <--- where have you heard this before). It's like WoW, people keep pretending the next expansion is going to be better, so they renew/keep their subscription...
Extra note: Anyone else notice that on the BW stream chat every session of games always has some SC2 fanboy come in and be like "Hey guys what game is this, do you know sc2 is out etc.", that's so annoying...
Apologize for the wall of text.
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On November 14 2010 12:20 ThatsNoMoon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 12:04 toadstool wrote:lol @ this. a blind fanboy complaining about blind fanboyism. How is he a blind fanboy? He is being objective about what was written in the blog, completely unbiased. Get your head out of your ass before you post plz.
I was referring to the OP as a blind fanboy, I had a quick read in the link of his past post.
All the OP does is bitch about SC2 and hate on it, yet he's pretending to be subjective and unbiased in his blog.
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On November 14 2010 17:37 toadstool wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 12:20 ThatsNoMoon wrote:On November 14 2010 12:04 toadstool wrote:lol @ this. a blind fanboy complaining about blind fanboyism. How is he a blind fanboy? He is being objective about what was written in the blog, completely unbiased. Get your head out of your ass before you post plz. I was referring to the OP as a blind fanboy, I had a quick read in the link of his past post. All the OP does is bitch about SC2 and hate on it, yet he's pretending to be subjective and unbiased in his blog.
Ah misunderstanding <3
It happens a lot in the internets.
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