• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:57
CET 03:57
KST 11:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets0$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)12Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18
Tourneys
$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1063 users

Bringing more people into the BW scene...

Blogs > Black[CAT]
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
November 08 2010 13:18 GMT
#1
So, SC2 is out...Number of people playing BW has decreased...
Nope, this is not a blog stating that BW is dying.

I'm very aware it is ALIVE.

I missed those days during day time in my time zone, there are at least 900+ people online, and at night time in my time zone, there are like 1.5k people online.

Now im seeing even a 400 people online nowadays, which is like O.O to me.
Some players have move on to the newer SC2. Nope, I'm not hating on it.

So, I'm thinking of bringing new players into BW. So far, i have 3 friends i managed to pull into playing BW and we play 2~3 time a week using campus computers in the midst of overflowing dota players(IM IN SOUTH EAST ASIA after all!). They are very interested, sometimes discussing about the game with me. All of course are just some 50~80apm newbie's, so im teaching them builds and those finer things of the game. What i find very amusing, is that the dota players or just some random dudes/girls go "OMG!" or "WOW!" when they see me play, they go like "damn his fingers move non-stop" or "he's so fast" when in truth I only got 150+APM!(i dont spam as much as possible).

Last friday, since there were quite a group of people watching me play with my friends, i decided to be as fast as possible and give them a show. I was surprised later, checking my APM is about 200+ after that game of 1v2. And yes, they go like as stated before, "OMG!","That's insane!"

Just yesterday, i met some player online and played an offrace game with him.
He told me that he just started 2 months ago and is at D- currently.
That pretty much made my night coz its cool to see new players coming to play BW.


Actually, i dont even know the point of this blog. I guess i can conclude that starcraft brood war is still attracting people even though its graphics are considered outdated in this era.
We all should try to do our part in showing people that BW is a cool game and aint just stuff for nerds.
And of course bringing in more new people.




***
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9527 Posts
November 08 2010 13:48 GMT
#2
I agree, BW is not going anywhere.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
November 08 2010 13:50 GMT
#3
Well, I don't think BW will increase anytime soon, but it will stay as it is. That's my oppinion!
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
November 08 2010 13:54 GMT
#4
I see quite some users on iccup who were dissapointed with sc2 and went to play the original, for their first time, instead.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
November 08 2010 14:03 GMT
#5
On November 08 2010 22:48 2Pacalypse- wrote:
I agree, BW is not going anywhere.


You're wrong sir.
Brood War is going

TO INFINITY, AND BEYOND!
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
November 08 2010 14:05 GMT
#6
You're wrong sir.
Brood War is going

TO INFINITY, AND BEYOND!


Haha, quote of the day! Made me LOL.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 08 2010 14:08 GMT
#7
Well, I play SC2, zerg. But the inspiration of me becoming a SC2 zerg is actually (Z)sAviOr and microing mutas in BW. I even changed races to be able to mutamicro, watched "HyungJoon becomes a progamer" show 5 times or so, watched FPVODs of (Z)sAviOr (don't say "why (Z)sAviOr, everybody knows that he's the boss).

I sometimes go on iccup to play some D- games, but after being unable to find a person to play with, I usually quit and (if I'm on mood) I play against computer, mostly it's ZvZ where I try build orders for all MUs (I sometimes go 9pool speedlings, 12pool, 12 hatch 11pool or 2/3 hatch muta or even 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydralurker into defilers OR EVEN CRAZY ZERG IN ZVZ). If I'm not on mood, I say "FU SC2 PLAYERS, EAT SHIT AND DIE", probably shut down computer and play SC2 when I get back on it.

The whole point in this: Add LoboMuzenza @iCCup regardless of RRR (Race-Rank-Region) issues and play whenever i go online I won't say no to a BW game.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 14:28:03
November 08 2010 14:27 GMT
#8
He told me that he just started 2 months ago and is at D- currently.


This is not suprising. Iccup is horrible to new people. I due like how sc2 has a more enjoyable ladder experiance. I dont understand how people can play sc for that long and still want to play. Even i recall my self going 4-97 when i first played iccup. I didnt quite > but hell i dont see why people would do it for a uhhh not as popular of a game now.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 08 2010 14:30 GMT
#9
I'm sure there'll be a stream of people getting back into bw as time goes by. I'm not too worried about the small niche bw scene disappearing but if proleague/osl/msl dies off that would be so tragic.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
November 08 2010 14:38 GMT
#10
BW will never die as long as there are still fans. NEVER.
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
November 08 2010 14:56 GMT
#11
i heard theres a macro king in malaysia with the name stargamer/ madox
moshi moshi~
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
November 08 2010 15:09 GMT
#12
All games rise and fall in popularity eventually. BW isn't ever going to die per se. I mean... there are still WC2 players out there amirite?
Retired BW Noob
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 08 2010 16:13 GMT
#13
Im still playing Iccup. Enjoy it a lot
ॐ
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
November 08 2010 16:17 GMT
#14
i have been playing bw only lately and haven't touched sc2 for a long time. bw will forever be there because i think if sc2 were to meet bw's standards, it would take a really long time.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
November 08 2010 17:13 GMT
#15
Stargamer/madox....never heard of him...
Suddenly when u mention about him, something that (T)iloveoov
said once just struck me.
And i feel now what he probably feels at that time as well.
Haha, i must be sleepy to say that out..
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
November 08 2010 17:24 GMT
#16
I've been laddering a lot recently. I think we are halfway through the season and I've played the most games that I have ever done in one single season, and I don't intend to stop. I'm barely at C- getting my ass kicked by the Koreans but damn I <3 this game
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
November 08 2010 17:30 GMT
#17
Everyone will agree with the statement "Brood War is Better than SC2" but the thing is right now the popularity outside of korea has swung to SC2 and the amount of money being thrown at it has made people Stop playing the good game and start playing the new game. If money weren't involved everyone would have already switched back to BW.
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
November 08 2010 18:58 GMT
#18
I LOVE broodwar. Im a lowly 1398 D player with 16-22 winloss in my 4th season. Last season i finished 13-20 (fist season 3-13 Ugghhhh even worse).

Ive never been good or even had a good winloss but i LOVE brood war and will continue to watch Proleague, OSL and MSL as well as try to keep laddering iCCup and I hope a good number of you will too!
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 19:58:30
November 08 2010 19:57 GMT
#19
On November 09 2010 00:09 StarN wrote:
All games rise and fall in popularity eventually. BW isn't ever going to die per se. I mean... there are still WC2 players out there amirite?

Exactly. No game can ever truly die. Even if Blizzard stopped supporting battle.net for SC:BW, people would still run servers and play. However, it had it's time in the sun, a long time may I add and it's over.

It was a lot of fun while it lasted.

Edit: Not to say I didn't love the game. It's safe to say anyone on here adored the game, obviously.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
November 08 2010 22:51 GMT
#20
This made me want to play iccup
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 174
White-Ra 120
CosmosSc2 40
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 768
Shuttle 168
GoRush 56
NaDa 43
Noble 25
ZergMaN 4
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm96
LuMiX0
League of Legends
C9.Mang0514
Counter-Strike
summit1g7862
Coldzera 1665
m0e_tv273
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox672
Other Games
tarik_tv6704
JimRising 566
Maynarde160
ZombieGrub33
Livibee30
minikerr18
Liquid`Ken4
Models2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3128
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 36
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 56
• davetesta23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki25
• RayReign 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22526
Other Games
• Shiphtur549
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
9h 3m
PiGosaur Cup
22h 3m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 9h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
All Star Teams
3 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
All Star Teams
4 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-12
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.