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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 29 2010 05:27 GMT
#21
On October 29 2010 13:29 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
If you're so proud of your Chinese culture, then why don't you move to China, or do you plan to? Just curious.


Lots of people are proud of their culture (especially on college essays ;o ;o), but that doesn't mean they will (or even want to?) move to their fatherland, especially if they've grown up elsewhere.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 05:55:11
October 29 2010 05:53 GMT
#22

Evaluate a significant experience, achievement, risk you have taken, or ethical dilemma you have faced and its impact on you.


I don't think you addressed the question very well. I'm assuming you are targeting "experience", but I don't feel that it was particularly significant from reading your story. I think you need to focus more on why it was a turning point in your life, rather than simply narrating a past event.

It might help to add an introduction and a conclusion to help you narrowing the focus.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 06:18:02
October 29 2010 06:16 GMT
#23
Hey why don't you use this as your college essay. I hear dialogue makes you stand out.

----

"Let's see, middle class asian kid from a pressure cooker public high school, wants in on an easy major to stand out. Probably going to flip into one of those crazed banker-psycho-clones like the rest of them as soon as he gets in. Should we admit him or not?"

"Sir, I suggest you do. Think about all the donations he can give us as a rich, miserable alum! While he's working 100+ hours a week on Wall Street, unable to spend his money, we can manipulate his emotions to make donations to us with his bonus money, and if he really makes it big by going back to his home country and starting a PE fund raping the shit out of it in the name of Yankee capitalism, he can even donate us a couple hundred million to get the honor of a house named after him."

"Mmmmmm. Big Wang's house, I do like the humor value in that."

"Sir, I see an expected value of around 155,000 dollars in donations from Ramen247. With a left-skewed distribution, of course. The 5% high end of the tail should reach well into the millions."

"Good, good. I love the smell of money in the morning. Just think of how much money his parents can give us."

"Sir--it says here that his parents make 180,000 dollars a year."

"Great--this means his folks are probably underwater on their mortgage, and as soon as we start slapping them with hefty tuition bills, they'll have to resort to Ramen247 just to make ends meet."

"Sir--and remember our study a while back..."

"Oh yes, Jeeves. Most definitely. We know that by making all these Asian kids understand how much their parents are sacrificing for them, we subconsciously shift them onto these careers where they make tons of money but are miserable, because somehow, somehow they want to make thier parents investment in them worthwhile."

"Yes sir--and that boosts our alumni giving, no doubt, because then they wind up miserable, insecure financial professionals. Marvelous."

"A most marvelous plan indeed, Jeeves. I say we admit this fine young fellow."

"What was his name again, sir?"

"Chen? Wang? Zhang? I don't know, they're all the same to me."
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
October 29 2010 06:20 GMT
#24
On October 29 2010 14:27 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 13:29 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
If you're so proud of your Chinese culture, then why don't you move to China, or do you plan to? Just curious.


Lots of people are proud of their culture (especially on college essays ;o ;o), but that doesn't mean they will (or even want to?) move to their fatherland, especially if they've grown up elsewhere.


Translation: lots of Asians feel alienated by white culture and want to become more Asian to compensate, but that doesn't mean they'll give up the milk teat of Wall St/BigLaw/Med School for a third world country, especially if they grew up in a nice suburban house.
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 06:26:52
October 29 2010 06:26 GMT
#25
Just like last time, I read the post and realized "this sounds like Tho-". Then I looked up.
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_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
October 29 2010 06:29 GMT
#26
On October 29 2010 13:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm gonna assume this is early action/decision, so here I go:

It's decent. The writing itself is very personable and casual, which can help or hurt you.

What is irking me is the message that you're trying to give out. While I find the story entertaining, by the end of the essay, all I got from the essay was: "Here's someone who realized the true nature of his heritage.....great."

People write about their heritage a lot, and at this moment in time, your story is a bit nonunique in terms of making the reader understand that you're revelation about your heritage is phenomenally different from the revelations of others. By the end of the essay, while the prose is executed well, I'm not going to remember your essay from the many other essays about heritage and realizing the importance of one's origins.

This also leads me to the second problem I see so far: disbelief. I have a hard time believing that your one experience with that Chinese lady suddenly revealed that you needed to pursue Asian Studies and reconnect with your heritage. While the read flowed so that by the end, I wasn't questioning much, admissions offices may be anticipating why this particular experience with this Chinese woman affected you so much.

Because in all honesty, there are a lot of times where I don't know words that my relatives are flinging at me in Mandarin. And I don't feel a sudden revelation to reestablish connections with my heritage....I just feel mildly embarrassed.

This is a really good paper, but I think it's missing a tad bit of believability. On top of that, it was missing some deeper issues.

Talking about being Chinese American is great....but I feel like on top of that, you need to add something else. Your message at the end, while being the most important part of the essay, is the shortest section. Some implication of your heritage maybe would do. Things to think about are (but not necessarily put in your essay, this is just something to spur some more deeper stuff at the end):

1. Have you forgotten your heritage (only briefly explained)
2. Have your parents played a role in Americanizing you?
3. Do you intend on restarting your Chinese lessons?
4. Do you feel like you're on the fringe of both nationalities?
5. Do you feel a sense of pride for your heritage?
6. Why is reconnection of your other half important? (I would argue this is the most important one to think about and write about).
7. What's your goal after pursuing Asian studies?


Hope this helps!


Seriously though--

Why don't you just write about something NEAR to you. Not fucking far away like "Chinese culture"; that which you have learned is probalby about as chinese as General Tso's Chicken is a Chinese dish. You grew up in a comfortable, middle class existence as the son of asian parents who wanted you to work hard and make it. The marker of maturity in this situation is to see what has been handed to you and why you want what you want.

Only by displaying some sort of fresh genuineness in your essay can you really stand out from, and I hate to be racist here, all your other Asian male peers.

It took me ages to actually realize why I wanted so badly to make money and succeed, and as soon as I learned to unshackle the shadows haunting me to make me do that, ironically, success became much easier.

Seriously, there are a lot of honest experiences you can write about that don't involve some sort of contrived discovery of asianness. You can write about, for example, realizing how the college to which you are attending is NOT the answer to all your problems, but rather merely the way to tell you which questions do not have answers, and more importantly, which answers don't have questions, for example. (Here's a hint: money is not an answer to anything, and the only thing success "answers" or "solves" is inadequacy.)

So I guess you could write about how you could "plan" for success, and strive for it, but never, ever think that it will be the answer to your problems, because it won't be. Nor will learning some contrived bullshit culture. Really, it is more about realizing shit about yourself, and slowly discovering your own passions.

Don't give in, don't put out. Fight the machine, man.

Probe your heart man. Open up and THINK about
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 06:41:20
October 29 2010 06:39 GMT
#27
^-^
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
October 29 2010 06:41 GMT
#28
I'm always scared that any essay I post will be immediately STOLEN.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
October 29 2010 06:52 GMT
#29
On October 29 2010 15:41 Karliath wrote:
I'm always scared that any essay I post will be immediately STOLEN.


lol what are you trying to say. you made me kinda scared.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
October 29 2010 06:54 GMT
#30
If I had to re-do my college apps, I would pull a near-death experience out of my ass.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
October 29 2010 07:01 GMT
#31
On October 29 2010 15:52 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 15:41 Karliath wrote:
I'm always scared that any essay I post will be immediately STOLEN.


lol what are you trying to say. you made me kinda scared.


nah nothing. It's just that I want to post my own essay up on TL too, but I don't dare.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 07:17:17
October 29 2010 07:01 GMT
#32
On October 29 2010 16:01 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 15:52 ramen247 wrote:
On October 29 2010 15:41 Karliath wrote:
I'm always scared that any essay I post will be immediately STOLEN.


lol what are you trying to say. you made me kinda scared.


nah nothing. It's just that I want to post my own essay up on TL too, but I don't dare.



its a legit threat.....

thanks guys for all the comments.

@romantic that sounds insanely difficult to do. I am actually drawn to Asian studies, and am not just looking for an easy major. I 100 percent intend on double majoring it with something else.
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Number41
Profile Joined August 2008
United States130 Posts
October 29 2010 07:45 GMT
#33
I thought most of the essay was well written and very engaging. It seems to fall apart with the last paragraph, however.

I agree with most of what zulu_nation8 posted.

The whole re-connecting with your culture thing as demonstrated by a story about anti-wrinkle cream... Seems a bit odd.

And worrying about being "Americanized" while speaking to someone in the USA that doesn't speak English at all - it almost seems offensive.

Overall I think it's a great essay. It just needs some fine-tuning.
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
October 29 2010 07:47 GMT
#34
On October 29 2010 14:13 Ludrik wrote:
I'm guessing college essays only make a difference if you're borderline markswise? Glad you don't have to do them in australia.

Your essay seems well enough written. The conclusion is kinda, 'wow my passion is engrained below my level of consciousness". Fairly persuasive and puts you across as a good person.


Depends totally on the school. Some schools will let you in if you have a kickass essay even if you don't have such great grades, while some will scan through the essay to look for mistakes before moving on to your exam scores.

Your essay seemed pretty okay, I guess. Didn't quite blow me away, but it was well written and I felt what you were trying to convey.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
October 29 2010 08:14 GMT
#35
May I ask what your grades/extracurriculars are like?
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 08:22:11
October 29 2010 08:20 GMT
#36
Normally I would say this essay topic is retarded, (nobody wants to hear how you reconnected with your asian roots, considering half the students at the colleges you're applying to are asian) but given that your intended major is asian studies, that's probably okay.

Good luck, bro.

Also, if you do end up submitting this essay, take it down from TL. The admissions office will probably to a brief search as a baseline check against plagiarism.

They'll end up seeing this site, and then they'll know way more secrets about your gamer lifestyle than you'd like.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
October 29 2010 09:55 GMT
#37
Pretty good essay! I'm not sure if I'm doing anything right but you may consider what I have done. Maybe its right or helpful? I unno lolXD

+ Show Spoiler +

For a long time, I did not understand why I studied Chinese. Every Saturday for three years, I ATTENDED Chinese School to learn my ethnic language alongside my normal schoolwork.

Through those years, I learned without purpose; I just blindly absorbed the pinyin and memorized passages but found little use for it in my life. AT school, I spoke English, and at home, I SPOKE English as well. The knowledge was pushed aside and collected dust in a lonely corner IN my head. Ironically, I decided to apply to college IN Asian Studies.

Last summer, I didn't build homes for the poor in Guatemala nor DID I do groundbreaking research with Nobel Laureates REMOVE COMMA HERE but INSTEAD worked alongside a pharmacist as her technician in a Chinese pharmacy. My workday mainly consisted of scanning prescriptions or working the cash register selling merchandise, which I preferred because of interaction with Chinese customers. <- THIS SENTENCE IS WEIRD. FIX Because of my previous Chinese schooling, I could speak well enough to efficiently communicate with the customers. However, three years of schooling has its limits and occasionally, YOU HAVE EXTRA SPACE HERE I had trouble following especially inquisitive customers and went to my boss for aid.

One day, the store was VACANT? USE SOME HIGH VOCAB WORD HERE, so my boss decided to leave me alone in the store while she ran an errand. Moments later, a young female customer walked in to inspect our beauty care section. While she was preoccupied, I mentally readied myself by preparing responses to any questions she might ask. I started to get nervous because the boss would not be here to come to my rescue, and I did not want to give a bad impression of myself, especially to the opposite sex. She finally asked a question, but it was so specific and the vocabulary was so advanced that my first instinct was to say, “Huh?” Laughing and shaking her head, the female customer turned back to the products. She had the wrong impression of me. She thought I was clueless and too Americanized to know any Chinese. To show her otherwise, I quickly replied with, “What, I did not understand.” She nodded encouragingly and asked the question again. Her attitude had completely changed just because I showed her that I could speak and would try my best to speak Chinese. She then seemed eager for my help, especially because she could not read the English labels. I struggled a lot ; I could not translate specific terminology. When I had to translate “anti-wrinkle cream,” I mentally scrambled for the right words, but they never came and I resorted to physically gesticulating the word, “wrinkle.” By running my fingers down my face and pressing my cheeks to create creases, I was able to show her what I was trying to say. She confirmed this by asking, “Do I have any?” to which I quickly retorted “No, of course not!”

This experience showed me what I learned Chinese all these years for – to recreate the connection between me and my Chinese culture. I am a Chinese American and to only be suited to the American ways means I am only half of what I could be. By further pursuing Asian Studies, I can hope to reconnect with the other half of me so I can be complete with the best of both worlds.

Jaedong :3
mookaboom
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1 Post
October 29 2010 10:08 GMT
#38
So I've been lurking on TL for... basically ever, but I've never made an account. And today I did. Because I love helping people write. It's like my favorite thing in the entire world. So sorry if this seems a bit harsh, but I really mean the best. And I totally relate to you. Because I wrote basically the same essay when I applied to college.

--------------

In my experience, the hardest part about being Chinese American is coming to terms with your nothingness– because you are not white, you cannot be American, and because you live in America, you cannot be Chinese.

I, and plenty other people I've talked to, have felt that to be Chinese is the worst thing in the world. The whole "why do Asian girls get white guys but we can't get white girls?" thing. To be Chinese-American is not to be Chinese, nor is it to be American, nor is it to be both at the same time. It is something entirely different that has nothing to do with being Chinese and nothing to do with being American.

And if you haven't gotten over this fact, if you haven't come to the brink of despair over your identity, if you haven't recognized the fact that you are stuck in this grey area of nothingness, then I think it hurts your chances at getting into school rather than helping.

What college essay readers want to read is a person who has this ability of self-reflection, who can show that they have done the work to become a person. Nobody cares how hard you advertise yourself with your work ethic and your knowledge of language and your working in a pharmacy. That doesn't matter.

What does matter is this idea of you doing the work to become self-aware, to become conscious of your self, to grow. That's what they want to see. Growth.

Asian Studies is not about language, not about culture. It's about understanding the difficulties in translation, in alienation, in the fragmentation of that culture and of that language. Appreciation in and of itself is almost dangerous– almost like a fetishization of some shallow.... purely aesthetic infatuation (ie Japanese culture is manga! yay!).

How can you talk about being Chinese American without taking the easy way out? You are not Chinese and you are not American. You do not have two halves, nor do you have two worlds.

I'm sure you've thought about this sort of thing time and again. It's annoying as hell to have some white person come up to you and start asking you to speak Chinese as if you're some sort of entertainment for them. It's annoying to think in terms of one language and be unable to communication what the hell you really want to say.

And even beyond language, you will always be seen as an outsider in mainstream (white) American society. How do you deal with this?

I've become a firm believer that culture, that identity, is performative: that is, you make your own identity by doing that which you believe you are. By finally creating an account on TL, I've established Starcraft as a big part of myself. That sort of thing.

And for me that is how you break out of this idea of being two things. You are nothing. But the great thing about being nothing is you get to figure out what you are on your own terms, without having to rely on such abstract ideas as "Chinese culture," or "American culture."

Basically, your essay at this point leads me to believe that you can make no claims as to understanding what it means to be Chinese American, because you haven't done the work in real life to explore this, to challenge your own formation of identity.

Things to think about:

You learned Chinese at Chinese school and did not question why you were learning Chinese. Your thesis is that you learned Chinese so that you could speak Chinese... and that speaking Chinese makes you feel Chinese American.

But you still haven't questioned why you learned Chinese in the first place, or why say, a Polish-American doesn't feel the need to speak Polish in the same way that you feel like being Chinese American means speaking Chinese (he's white).

Your line about not building homes for the poor makes you sound like an ass. Like- I don't know. Don't talk about poverty if you can avoid it. You're already trying to talk about identity. And poverty doesn't seem to be part of your identity, and that's fine, but the way you talk about it makes it seem as if you are of the middle class and unaware of the privilege you have. Like having a house is somehow not important.

You throw around this term "Americanized" like it's a bad thing. You can't help being Americanized. You're American. Here we come again to the impenetrable duality– you can't be both Chinese and American. And you don't get to choose how much of either you are. It's not a percent this, percent that, sort of thing. You will never be Chinese enough to Chinese people, nor American enough to white people.

I think mostly I want to know how you FEEL and THINK through all of this. What does it feel like to have your Chinese-ness challenged? What was going through your head at this point? What do you think about it now? Why was it so important to speak Chinese? When did you become thankful that you'd learned Chinese? Have you thought about learning English? Do you think that your knowing English is important? How did it feel to communicate without words? That's neither Chinese nor English. So, how important is language in communication in general? Why did you so quickly answer that she had no wrinkles? Were you afraid of offending her? Is that part of your culture? Is that your own insecurities in speaking to women? Why would you have these insecurities?

Basically I can go on and on about this sort of thing, but it's this interiority that makes a person come alive. Talk about thoughts and feelings. And you only get like a few words. So like, one scene. And then a bunch of stuff to explain what it means to be YOU. Everyone will talk about being Chinese. But nobody else can talk about being YOU. And since you are Chinese, you can't just NOT talk about it. But it's the combination of knowing that you are Chinese, and being able to think about it.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 29 2010 16:40 GMT
#39
I feel that even though the story is cliche, it's a decent story... but the conclusion doesn't make much sense. mookaboom's 2nd to last paragraph captures it succinctly.

If you answer more of those questions, then you can probably get that catharsis that makes it feel like it was a significant, inspirational moment rather than the forced importance that it feels you're giving it.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
October 29 2010 23:07 GMT
#40
do you guys think i should change "young female" to young woman?
and change opposite sex to attractive woman?

a teacher commented that it sounded like I was referring to lab specimens.
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