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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24757 Posts
October 14 2010 23:02 GMT
#21
Definitely don't do stupid passive aggressive revenge stunts. Follow the proper protocol depending on the type of dwelling you live in. If there is nothing in place for you THEN deal with the noise disturbance... if this isn't a case for the laws to be used to justify police activity then what is? 200 decibel shock waves knocking down nearby buildings?
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SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:04:49
October 14 2010 23:04 GMT
#22
I recommend the following novel; How to Win Friends and Influence People

I propose that the letter you have written is going to engender more conflict and discomfort in your future than you perhaps realize.

P.S
I think you're right though.
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-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:22:15
October 14 2010 23:21 GMT
#23
Your message will have a much more profound effect if you deliver it in person.

"To the guys downstairs,

You guys are nice people playing nice music. However when your passion interferes with our daily lives, we have no choice but to ask you guys to turn it way down.

We live in a duplex; with that said, when you guys rock out the ground and glassware shake as if there’s an earthquake upstairs. We’re university students and we don’t mind a bit of noise here and there, but when it’s this excessive we must ask you to, we repeat, turn it way down as it severely disrupts our ability to do just about anything - studying for midterms, napping, and hell, we can't even hear our movies from our laptop speakers when you guys blast your music."


Memorize this and say it to them. Definitely stay away from the threats to report them unless they laugh in your face or ignore your request.

If you really want them to listen to you then you need to say what you've written with conviction and confidence. I'm not saying that you should try and intimidate them but you have to let them know you mean business all the same.

Good luck.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 14 2010 23:36 GMT
#24
On October 15 2010 08:21 frog HERO wrote:
Your message will have a much more profound effect if you deliver it in person.

"To the guys downstairs,

You guys are nice people playing nice music. However when your passion interferes with our daily lives, we have no choice but to ask you guys to turn it way down.

We live in a duplex; with that said, when you guys rock out the ground and glassware shake as if there’s an earthquake upstairs. We’re university students and we don’t mind a bit of noise here and there, but when it’s this excessive we must ask you to, we repeat, turn it way down as it severely disrupts our ability to do just about anything - studying for midterms, napping, and hell, we can't even hear our movies from our laptop speakers when you guys blast your music."


Memorize this and say it to them. Definitely stay away from the threats to report them unless they laugh in your face or ignore your request.

If you really want them to listen to you then you need to say what you've written with conviction and confidence. I'm not saying that you should try and intimidate them but you have to let them know you mean business all the same.

Good luck.
Have fun.


Sadly, he said they ignored his requests to turn off the music.

Give them the notice, and wait a day. If it's still there, turn to the landlord. If the landlord does nothing, call the cops.
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ArbAttack
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada198 Posts
October 14 2010 23:48 GMT
#25
Always trust TL to provide you with the most logical solution to your life's problems.

Thanks guys, they stopped playing (for the day) and I read the replies, so I'm going to talk to them in a much more serious tone later tonight, wait until tomorrow, then call the landlord, and finally whip them with the letter if they continue to ignore us at every turn. Hopefully I don't have to resort to the legal route.

Thanks again to all.
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
October 14 2010 23:53 GMT
#26
Tbh I think the letter was good. If you've already asked them twice then I don't see why you shouldn't start spelling out the law, they clearly have no respect for other people. Noisy neighbors are one of the most infuriating things to deal with. It can make your life a living hell. Good luck.
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
October 15 2010 00:46 GMT
#27
Environmental Noise

Weakest sound heard 0dB
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500', Truck Traffic 90dB

You guys are at more than 85dB (not even counting the horrible vibration) when you rock out. The maximum allowance for noise levels in Waterloo is 55dB. Therefore, we kindly ask you guys to lower your volume by a factor of at least 25 (to 60dB) meaning turning that volume dial on your AMP all the way to the left.


The numbers are kinda funky to me or maybe I'm reading it wrong. If a normal conversation is 65db, Waterloo only allow you to be at 55dB? So you're not allowed to have a normal conversation?
ArbAttack
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada198 Posts
October 15 2010 00:58 GMT
#28
On October 15 2010 09:46 crazeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
Environmental Noise

Weakest sound heard 0dB
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500', Truck Traffic 90dB

You guys are at more than 85dB (not even counting the horrible vibration) when you rock out. The maximum allowance for noise levels in Waterloo is 55dB. Therefore, we kindly ask you guys to lower your volume by a factor of at least 25 (to 60dB) meaning turning that volume dial on your AMP all the way to the left.


The numbers are kinda funky to me or maybe I'm reading it wrong. If a normal conversation is 65db, Waterloo only allow you to be at 55dB? So you're not allowed to have a normal conversation?


55dB at the receiving end. You can be 190dB if you want as long as you sound-proof properly and the noise that reaches your neighbors is only 55dB.

Thought that would be obvious, guess I'll edit that into the letter to avoid confusions for these Arts and Business kids.
BoldMan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 01:22:49
October 15 2010 01:21 GMT
#29
nicely written, i think i would listen to a letter like that

maybe if they're dolts, though they would derail when you provide the laws and everything and stuff, i might have just told them off verbally sometimes works better for some people

i myself live in an apartment and the people right upstairs yell and shout at eachother at night, bang things, and make a consistent ~10-15 minute noise at night which is probably f***ing but its def not as bad as yours

- ya frog HERO wrote basically what i meant, the letter starts off great and then it gets "boring" and those idiots might not go with that part, so just go with frog HERO's advice i was thinking exactly the same thing
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
October 15 2010 02:19 GMT
#30
On October 15 2010 07:55 arb wrote:
those fucking downstairs guys
fucking partying up ruining my life


oh god an imposter! yeah take out the huge legal code part of the letter. just send htem the part telling them to turn it down. if they don't, call your landlord.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
October 18 2010 13:23 GMT
#31
I know your pain man. Good luck. Don't be afraid to send the cops on them.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
October 18 2010 14:12 GMT
#32
yeah, id go buy newer, louder speakers if someone wrote me a letter stating how they actually measured how many fucking decibels my stereo was pumping out.


"You guys are at more than 85dB (not even counting the horrible vibration) when you rock out. "

You sound like a 55 year old due yelling at kids for having fun. Jesus.
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King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 14:52:10
October 18 2010 14:47 GMT
#33
oh lol you're in waterloo.

Do you live near non-students? Because if they don't listen to you eventually one of the city residents (they're really easy to piss off) will call the cops.

Anyways, I would've asked the landlord and then gotten the cops involved, but if the landlord sucks major dick, then you can't do much about it.

On October 18 2010 23:12 Hawk wrote:
yeah, id go buy newer, louder speakers if someone wrote me a letter stating how they actually measured how many fucking decibels my stereo was pumping out.


"You guys are at more than 85dB (not even counting the horrible vibration) when you rock out. "

You sound like a 55 year old due yelling at kids for having fun. Jesus.

OP mentioned that it was excessive, having fun does not equate to having fun all the time. It's impossible to think or do any sort of work when the noise is like that.

Why should OP have to change his life to suit the needs of those other kids? Anyways.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
October 18 2010 14:59 GMT
#34
I was actually guilty of causing some noise problems in my apartment in Williamsburg and had the cops called on me I think once... maybe twice... to give stern reprimanding. I think the measure was very persuasive and I refrained from turning up my bass in the future. Of course my roommates and I were just humble nerds not looking for trouble, just phat tank sieging noises, so we were amenable to persuasion.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 18 2010 16:45 GMT
#35
I suggest you write everything in legalese just to sound serious. Right now you wrote it in a way that is too easy to understand.
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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
October 18 2010 17:43 GMT
#36
On October 18 2010 23:12 Hawk wrote:
yeah, id go buy newer, louder speakers if someone wrote me a letter stating how they actually measured how many fucking decibels my stereo was pumping out.


"You guys are at more than 85dB (not even counting the horrible vibration) when you rock out. "

You sound like a 55 year old due yelling at kids for having fun. Jesus.


Seriously? You'd just blast your music even louder? Fucking self centered assholes like you piss me off to no end. Has nothing to do with how old you are and everything to do with not being a petty, conceited, douchebag. I'm sure that if your downstairs neighbors got trashed everyday and puked all over the stairs and around the property you'd just be "lols kids having fun". OP has it even worse because its goddamn shitty amateur indie rock music. OP somehow manages to write a civil letter to the guys rather than breaking in and destroying their instruments and you're getting on his ass for sounding like an old unfun dude?
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 17:59:25
October 18 2010 17:57 GMT
#37
On October 15 2010 09:58 ArbAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 09:46 crazeman wrote:
Environmental Noise

Weakest sound heard 0dB
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500', Truck Traffic 90dB

You guys are at more than 85dB (not even counting the horrible vibration) when you rock out. The maximum allowance for noise levels in Waterloo is 55dB. Therefore, we kindly ask you guys to lower your volume by a factor of at least 25 (to 60dB) meaning turning that volume dial on your AMP all the way to the left.


The numbers are kinda funky to me or maybe I'm reading it wrong. If a normal conversation is 65db, Waterloo only allow you to be at 55dB? So you're not allowed to have a normal conversation?


55dB at the receiving end. You can be 190dB if you want as long as you sound-proof properly and the noise that reaches your neighbors is only 55dB.

Thought that would be obvious, guess I'll edit that into the letter to avoid confusions for these Arts and Business kids
.


Take a look at your contract you signed for the place and see what the rules are for noise. The landlord might just say sorry, but I have no rules against that. Then you have to get the legal action going.

Not an art of business student, but I hope this takes a while to come to a resolution for you now. I guess I figured that would come from a from some waterloo students anyway so I am not surprised.

Brood War forever!
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
October 18 2010 18:29 GMT
#38
I salute OP for handling an awkward yet infuriating situation like a complete rational adult. Power to you, ignore the folks saying "i'd play it louder" or "be passive aggressive/vengeful."

lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
October 18 2010 18:46 GMT
#39
Why don't you just talk directly to the landlord now that you've already tried with the actual tenants? It's really on the landlord to abide by quiet enjoyment, so it's on him to make them stfu. Plus, landlord telling them to be quiet or eviction > some fines by the city that you threaten them with. But maybe there's less of a burden on the landlord in Canada than USA.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#40
On October 18 2010 23:12 Hawk wrote:
yeah, id go buy newer, louder speakers if someone wrote me a letter stating how they actually measured how many fucking decibels my stereo was pumping out.


"You guys are at more than 85dB (not even counting the horrible vibration) when you rock out. "

You sound like a 55 year old due yelling at kids for having fun. Jesus.

You are so cool, man.
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