• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:23
CEST 21:23
KST 04:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent8Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues7LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris70
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL Asl 20 … BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group A [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1297 users

lol mindcontrol

Blogs > Prozen
Post a Reply
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:25:53
October 13 2010 04:11 GMT
#1
So I played a game on Fighting Spirit today against Korean tosses and what do you know, he decides to 12 nex. Seeing as how it's a Korean and fortunately for him we were at cross positions, I decided to just go for a normal Siege expand, where I tried to use Dropship harass to overcome that small economic advantage that he got. And lol... boy did he surprise me this game.

When I tried to take 9, he zealot dropped on me and dropped a .... DARK ARCHON. You know what happens next.....
[image loading]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU he mind controlled my SCV. I unfortunately didn't find out until later when he took the whole map LOL. And yet, this game showed me how strong Terran defense truly is. Even though he had 1 more base than I did, he couldn't overcome my defenses.

Later on, I just got bored and kept trying to kill 11, where all his factories were. And he won by an economic advantage. But now to be serious, how do you deal with a Protoss who mind controls one of your SCVs? It gets really frustrating and becomes a MINDFUCK when you're seeing Tanks used against you in a TvP O_O. Here's the replay lol. My macro was terrible as I haven't played in a couple of weeks so please try to focus on other aspects that I probably should have improved on.
Mind Control

*****
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
October 13 2010 04:15 GMT
#2
i think your link is broken and so is your picture
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
October 13 2010 04:15 GMT
#3
good links ;d
skyhighftw on iccup
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
October 13 2010 04:17 GMT
#4
Fixed ^^.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
October 13 2010 04:19 GMT
#5
Iono bout rep but pic still ain't working D:
Dota 3hard5me
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
October 13 2010 04:20 GMT
#6
(( Use this link: http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9215/96086992700.gif ))

I've always wanted to pull off a Mind Control in a real game (always used to do it against AIs as a kid), though that's pretty awesome (well not that it happened to you!) that it managed to happen haha.

Two 200 food-caps FTL.
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
October 13 2010 04:28 GMT
#7
really kinda bad game high mineral counts by both players
skyhighftw on iccup
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
October 13 2010 04:33 GMT
#8
Your picture is of mind-controlling a Siege Tank, not an SCV.. YOU LIE. I WILL NOT WATCH THE REPLAY.

And is this viable? Building a second army, I mean. I always used to do it as a kid against the computer for fun but as I recall, even from when I was 12, money was pretty tight.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
October 13 2010 04:36 GMT
#9
On October 13 2010 13:28 FlameSworD wrote:
really kinda bad game high mineral counts by both players

Yeah, that's why I asked to disregard my macro, it's more of what I was supposed to do that I was confused about. My macro is actually usually on key in most of my games, but this game I was really shocked by what this Protoss did and it affected my macro.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9027 Posts
October 13 2010 05:00 GMT
#10
The map in the pic is not Fighting Spirit is it?
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 05:04:28
October 13 2010 05:03 GMT
#11
hey prozen use a real screenshot from the actual game not some google images crud next time gosh what a nub!

lol but srsly, sounds like a crazy game.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 05:11:35
October 13 2010 05:09 GMT
#12
Solution: don't let him get to DA...

Plus seriously, as people said, raising a second race after MC'ing one of the workers takes 1) a lot of time and 2) a lot of resources.

CC - 400min
Barrack - 150min
Factory - 200min 100gas
Machine Shop - 50min 50gas

So he'd have to spend an extra 800/150 just to be able to produce his first tank, which as you know, costs 150/100, so 950/250! For just one tank! I mean, he could have made 5 goons and 3 zealots with that money and still have a few pennies left over.

*edit: I forgot the machine shop addon in the original reply.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
October 13 2010 05:11 GMT
#13
the only way to deal with a protoss who mind controls an scv of yours and starts making tanks is to mass wraith. see, tanks can't hit air, and he will always make tanks since tanks are clearly the best terran unit. you just scan and kill his observers with your wraiths, and then kill all his units, since he can't see you. really though if he starts making a command centre and terran buildings AFTER making the dark archon, you can probably just roll him then and there with what you have.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
October 13 2010 06:32 GMT
#14
when was fighting spirit a desert tileset?
POGGERS
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 13 2010 07:28 GMT
#15
what map is that?!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
October 13 2010 07:38 GMT
#16
He just google image'd mindcontrol as he couldn't get screenshot from the replay to work.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11051 Posts
October 13 2010 07:45 GMT
#17
Psh. Rainbow did it years ago

Mnn think Ill download that.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
October 13 2010 08:32 GMT
#18
Dark Archons + Mind Control is very expensive, and your mineral lines are probably defended --> hard to drop. Even if he does manage to squirrel away an SCV, if you're not already far behind, you should be able to push before he gets any use out of his new Terran faction.

That said, this technique if successful crushes the TvP fallback plan of "I'm-not-winning-let-me-turtle-to-200/200-3/3." If you let Protoss build a dozen siege tanks, you will never get to push out.
My strategy is to fork people.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
MNW 22
SteadfastSC848
TKL 581
IndyStarCraft 256
BRAT_OK 183
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 848
TKL 581
IndyStarCraft 256
BRAT_OK 183
UpATreeSC 95
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3637
Flash 755
Mini 301
Zeus 178
Dewaltoss 147
sSak 55
Hyun 33
Rock 32
scan(afreeca) 30
Noble 9
[ Show more ]
Britney 0
Dota 2
qojqva5332
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps624
Stewie2K504
Foxcn66
Super Smash Bros
PPMD2
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu391
Other Games
Grubby3201
FrodaN1755
B2W.Neo640
Hui .205
KnowMe192
C9.Mang0161
ToD125
SortOf117
Sick114
QueenE110
ArmadaUGS109
OptimusSC26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2042
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 136
• Reevou 4
• davetesta3
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21598
• Noizen42
League of Legends
• Jankos1960
Other Games
• imaqtpie1242
• Shiphtur375
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
14h 38m
BeSt vs Alone
Queen vs Bisu
PiGosaur Monday
1d 4h
OSC
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
4 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.