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lol mindcontrol

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Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 04:25:53
October 13 2010 04:11 GMT
#1
So I played a game on Fighting Spirit today against Korean tosses and what do you know, he decides to 12 nex. Seeing as how it's a Korean and fortunately for him we were at cross positions, I decided to just go for a normal Siege expand, where I tried to use Dropship harass to overcome that small economic advantage that he got. And lol... boy did he surprise me this game.

When I tried to take 9, he zealot dropped on me and dropped a .... DARK ARCHON. You know what happens next.....
[image loading]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU he mind controlled my SCV. I unfortunately didn't find out until later when he took the whole map LOL. And yet, this game showed me how strong Terran defense truly is. Even though he had 1 more base than I did, he couldn't overcome my defenses.

Later on, I just got bored and kept trying to kill 11, where all his factories were. And he won by an economic advantage. But now to be serious, how do you deal with a Protoss who mind controls one of your SCVs? It gets really frustrating and becomes a MINDFUCK when you're seeing Tanks used against you in a TvP O_O. Here's the replay lol. My macro was terrible as I haven't played in a couple of weeks so please try to focus on other aspects that I probably should have improved on.
Mind Control

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To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
October 13 2010 04:15 GMT
#2
i think your link is broken and so is your picture
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
October 13 2010 04:15 GMT
#3
good links ;d
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Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
October 13 2010 04:17 GMT
#4
Fixed ^^.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
October 13 2010 04:19 GMT
#5
Iono bout rep but pic still ain't working D:
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Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
October 13 2010 04:20 GMT
#6
(( Use this link: http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9215/96086992700.gif ))

I've always wanted to pull off a Mind Control in a real game (always used to do it against AIs as a kid), though that's pretty awesome (well not that it happened to you!) that it managed to happen haha.

Two 200 food-caps FTL.
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
October 13 2010 04:28 GMT
#7
really kinda bad game high mineral counts by both players
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
October 13 2010 04:33 GMT
#8
Your picture is of mind-controlling a Siege Tank, not an SCV.. YOU LIE. I WILL NOT WATCH THE REPLAY.

And is this viable? Building a second army, I mean. I always used to do it as a kid against the computer for fun but as I recall, even from when I was 12, money was pretty tight.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
October 13 2010 04:36 GMT
#9
On October 13 2010 13:28 FlameSworD wrote:
really kinda bad game high mineral counts by both players

Yeah, that's why I asked to disregard my macro, it's more of what I was supposed to do that I was confused about. My macro is actually usually on key in most of my games, but this game I was really shocked by what this Protoss did and it affected my macro.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9030 Posts
October 13 2010 05:00 GMT
#10
The map in the pic is not Fighting Spirit is it?
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 05:04:28
October 13 2010 05:03 GMT
#11
hey prozen use a real screenshot from the actual game not some google images crud next time gosh what a nub!

lol but srsly, sounds like a crazy game.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 05:11:35
October 13 2010 05:09 GMT
#12
Solution: don't let him get to DA...

Plus seriously, as people said, raising a second race after MC'ing one of the workers takes 1) a lot of time and 2) a lot of resources.

CC - 400min
Barrack - 150min
Factory - 200min 100gas
Machine Shop - 50min 50gas

So he'd have to spend an extra 800/150 just to be able to produce his first tank, which as you know, costs 150/100, so 950/250! For just one tank! I mean, he could have made 5 goons and 3 zealots with that money and still have a few pennies left over.

*edit: I forgot the machine shop addon in the original reply.
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Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
October 13 2010 05:11 GMT
#13
the only way to deal with a protoss who mind controls an scv of yours and starts making tanks is to mass wraith. see, tanks can't hit air, and he will always make tanks since tanks are clearly the best terran unit. you just scan and kill his observers with your wraiths, and then kill all his units, since he can't see you. really though if he starts making a command centre and terran buildings AFTER making the dark archon, you can probably just roll him then and there with what you have.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
October 13 2010 06:32 GMT
#14
when was fighting spirit a desert tileset?
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 13 2010 07:28 GMT
#15
what map is that?!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11392 Posts
October 13 2010 07:38 GMT
#16
He just google image'd mindcontrol as he couldn't get screenshot from the replay to work.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11071 Posts
October 13 2010 07:45 GMT
#17
Psh. Rainbow did it years ago

Mnn think Ill download that.
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
October 13 2010 08:32 GMT
#18
Dark Archons + Mind Control is very expensive, and your mineral lines are probably defended --> hard to drop. Even if he does manage to squirrel away an SCV, if you're not already far behind, you should be able to push before he gets any use out of his new Terran faction.

That said, this technique if successful crushes the TvP fallback plan of "I'm-not-winning-let-me-turtle-to-200/200-3/3." If you let Protoss build a dozen siege tanks, you will never get to push out.
My strategy is to fork people.
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