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MountainDewJunkie
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Risen
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On September 15 2010 09:53 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Because as crazy as she is about me, as I know her, she does not compromise for any man. Even me. Then she isn't crazy about you. There is no such thing as a relationship without compromise (one that lasts anywho) Edit: Also, if she's willing to talk about it you need to be honest with her and let her know before she becomes comfortable with the notion that you are okay with it. | ||
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Nyovne
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
she seems open about it, you should discuss this with her, not with TL. girls understand the reasoning of "not feeling well about it" | ||
mOnion
United States5651 Posts
comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
You are right in saying it doesn't make sense to drink but have an issue with smoking pot, I would consider alcohol abuse to be much worse and it doesn't seem like she's really even what you would call a "pothead". The best thing to do is to come to a mutual compromise that doesn't involve her quitting but just limiting her use when with you or just getting over it. You don't have a great logical reason for your problem with it so maybe it's easier just to deal with it and let it go. | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid | ||
MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: honestly i think alcohol is worse than weed. you should get over it, and if you cant then leave. comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw [and @ Doc] Like I said, I feel stupid for feeling this way. On September 15 2010 09:59 Nyovne wrote: MountainDewJunkie uses wall of text! It's super effective! *leaves blog* You don't think I'll call out a scary Bangling for a retarded pokemon reference? Thanks for the contribution. | ||
Scarecrow
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid because one is proven to cause cancer and an array of respiratory disorders and the other isn't would be my guess weed doesn't smell nearly as bad as cig smoke either | ||
mOnion
United States5651 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid uh what? have you ever smoked? weed smells like christmas trees. and there's no residual smell. if i walk into a cig smokers house i know he smokes cigs, not so with weed i think youre guessing that weed smells bad | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid I think he was referring more to the contrast in health effects not their odors. Although the odors are vastly different as well, imo. The smell of weed 1. does not stick around long relatively speaking 2. smells good to me, but that's just my opinion. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44002 Posts
If you really feel this way (and I understand how you feel), then you need to bring it up. It's implicitly destroying your relationship, because it's clearly bothering the hell out of you. Living with her and having this hidden resentment isn't going to be any good for either for you. Your idea that its gross, and your confusion aren't abnormal. You guys need to talk it out. If you guys talk it out, then one of two things will happen: 1. She'll stop (or attempt to stop) = Great for you ![]() 2. She won't stop (and the result is pretty much the same as if you didn't mention it, except you can't feel guilty for not bringing up why you feel uncomfortable) = Not great for you, but clearly not your problem It sucks that it needs to be brought up, but it's a problem that won't go away on its own. Good luck! On September 15 2010 09:59 Nyovne wrote: MountainDewJunkie uses wall of text! It's super effective! *leaves blog* Nyovne uses snide, irrelevant, sarcastic comment! It's not very effective... I don't understand why you posted. | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nyovne uses snide, irrelevant, sarcastic comment! It's not very effective... I don't understand why you posted. Because he likes to poke smot in the amsterest of dams. | ||
Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid because one is proven to cause cancer and an array of respiratory disorders and the other isn't would be my guess weed doesn't smell nearly as bad as cig smoke either I would argue that they both smell equally bad, just different. Marijuana causes respiratory problems btw. And cancer has never been proven in either cig smoking or marijuana smoking, trends indicate that BOTH do, however. (With cig smoking showing a larger trend) | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:13 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid because one is proven to cause cancer and an array of respiratory disorders and the other isn't would be my guess weed doesn't smell nearly as bad as cig smoke either I would argue that they both smell equally bad, just different. Marijuana causes respiratory problems btw. And cancer has never been proven in either cig smoking or marijuana smoking, trends indicate that BOTH do, however. (With cig smoking showing a larger trend) Wow -_-; | ||
Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
*leaves blog* lol no but, i kinda understand, talk to her about it and figure something out, and if she is willing to break up with you for not liking it, then move on imo. | ||
Relickey
United States145 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Edit: Relicky's post made me giggle | ||
MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:15 Relickey wrote: Be a man, give her an ultimatum you or the weed. If she picks weed, she isn't worth it anyway. Stop being such a beta male, and alpha it up yo. Oh come on. Do what I say or I'll leave you? That shit is beneath any man. | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:15 Relickey wrote: Be a man, give her an ultimatum you or the weed. If she picks weed, she isn't worth it anyway. Stop being such a beta male, and alpha it up yo. Being an alpha male means to be confident and assertive, not a controlling manipulative dick. Maybe that's what it means to you. | ||
mOnion
United States5651 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:13 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid because one is proven to cause cancer and an array of respiratory disorders and the other isn't would be my guess weed doesn't smell nearly as bad as cig smoke either I would argue that they both smell equally bad, just different. this is proof you've never smelled weed | ||
Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:18 mOnion wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:13 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid because one is proven to cause cancer and an array of respiratory disorders and the other isn't would be my guess weed doesn't smell nearly as bad as cig smoke either I would argue that they both smell equally bad, just different. this is proof you've never smelled weed This is proof that you disregard any argument that doesn't agree with yours. Edit: See? We can both do it. Take it to PMs | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:13 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid because one is proven to cause cancer and an array of respiratory disorders and the other isn't would be my guess weed doesn't smell nearly as bad as cig smoke either I would argue that they both smell equally bad, just different. Marijuana causes respiratory problems btw. And cancer has never been proven in either cig smoking or marijuana smoking, trends indicate that BOTH do, however. (With cig smoking showing a larger trend) there are also trends that indicate marijuana smoke inhibits the growth of cancer cells and there aren't any cases linking emphysema to marijuana smoke that I am aware of although feel free to dispute that | ||
Cirn9
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I knew a girl, we wanted to date, but I told her I wouldn't date someone that smokes (anything). She stopped because she felt I was worth it. Though we don't date now, she still doesn't smoke, and shes glad for that. Wins all around. If shes not willing to stop for that, then its probably not worth it. Or you stay in the relationship, so it must not bother you too much. >The words I speak are jumbled and probably make no sense | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:15 Relickey wrote: Be a man, give her an ultimatum you or the weed. If she picks weed, she isn't worth it anyway. Stop being such a beta male, and alpha it up yo. this alpha/beta thing has gotten way out of hand to be perfectly honest. it's completely retarded | ||
MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:18 mOnion wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:13 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid because one is proven to cause cancer and an array of respiratory disorders and the other isn't would be my guess weed doesn't smell nearly as bad as cig smoke either I would argue that they both smell equally bad, just different. this is proof you've never smelled weed Weed smells x1000 better than cigs, even with my disdain, and I am greatful she doesn't smoke them. | ||
Polar_Nada
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ "Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers." So if your problem is that it's something unhealthy you don't want in your life, you may feel justified. However, by your own admission she doesn't smoke that often and I haven't seen a study showing health issues relating to sporadic marijuana usage. Edit: I've grown up around cigarette smoke... maybe that makes it smell less awful or something, because to me they're both awful Edit 2: The whole marijuana argument comes down to personal freedom imo. Does your marijuana smoking harm others? (Other than a bad smell) I don't believe it does. Does marijuana put you at an unacceptably high risk? I don't believe it does, at the very least it's on par with alcohol (if not under it) Edit 3: Personal testimony from an anonymous internet user claiming to have gotten emphysema from near daily smoking of marijuana. http://www.marijuana.com/medicinal-marijuana/112018-6-yr-daily-smoker-diagnosed-emphysema-age-23-a.html To point out what emphysema is to those believing it is limited to smoking cigs... Emphysema is a serious lung disease where the alveoli and the narrow passages leading to these air sacs become permanently swollen air. Emphysema is not caused by smoking. But the smoking burns the tissue in the lungs so that the cells are dying faster than the body is able to replace them with new cells. So ANY smoking increases the risk of emphysema. Keep yourselves aware of ALL risks before trying any drugs people. Now, if you deem the risk sufficiently low, then go for it, that's a personal decision I feel you should be allowed to make. I couldn't let misinformation be propagated in this thread, though, sorry for the derail. | ||
QuanticHawk
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mOnion
United States5651 Posts
either you are covering up ur fear of commitment and moving in with this petty annoyance, or youre a hypocrite. i dont mean that negatively btw, lots of people are hypocritical, i think the word gets a bad connotation | ||
sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:21 itzbrandnew wrote: From a PRO marijuana website. http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ "Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers." So if your problem is that it's something unhealthy you don't want in your life, you may feel justified. However, by your own admission she doesn't smoke that often and I haven't seen a study showing health issues relating to sporadic marijuana usage. Edit: I've grown up around cigarette smoke... maybe that makes it smell less awful or something, because to me they're both awful Edit 2: The whole marijuana argument comes down to personal freedom imo. Does your marijuana smoking harm others? (Other than a bad smell) I don't believe it does. Does marijuana put you at an unacceptably high risk? I don't believe it does, at the very least it's on par with alcohol (if not under it) For some reason usually neither the proponent or detractors of marijuana usage ever seem to actually know the actual studies that have been performed. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html EDIT: lol, maybe you should have read the rest of the passage you quoted: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana. By the way that study found the cigarette users in the group had 20x greater chances of cancer. You can read about it at the link. | ||
Tazza
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:25 mOnion wrote: i think the fact that your illogically annoyed by this even though you seem to be a logical person seems to indicate something deeper either you are covering up ur fear of commitment and moving in with this petty annoyance, or youre a hypocrite. i dont mean that negatively btw, lots of people are hypocritical, i think the word gets a bad connotation It's more an annoyance with anything people use as a crutch (I am not saying all people use such things as a crutch, but I do believe a lot of people tend to mislead themselves as they become more and more reliant on any substance, but hey, we all have our vices and maybe this is what bothers the OP). Alcohol, marijuana, any mind-altering drug. But that's a personal belief, and you are correct in that I am logical, so I do not hold my own beliefs over other people and allow them the ability to choose (I am pro marijuana legalization) | ||
Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:27 sob3k wrote: EDIT: lol, maybe you should have read the rest of the passage you quoted I did read the entire thing, I also read the study in which the researchers were CLEARLY biased in their testing. Just because an article says a study was presented does not mean the ATS accepted said study as factual findings. I'd also like to note that I had to dig around for the study myself, as the marijuana facts page does not cite it. Probably because anyone who clicks the link and reads the study would realize how full of shit it was. | ||
Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:31 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:25 mOnion wrote: i think the fact that your illogically annoyed by this even though you seem to be a logical person seems to indicate something deeper either you are covering up ur fear of commitment and moving in with this petty annoyance, or youre a hypocrite. i dont mean that negatively btw, lots of people are hypocritical, i think the word gets a bad connotation It's more an annoyance with anything people use as a crutch (I am not saying all people use such things as a crutch, but I do believe a lot of people tend to mislead themselves as they become more and more reliant on any substance, but hey, we all have our vices and maybe this is what bothers the OP). Alcohol, marijuana, any mind-altering drug. But that's a personal belief, and you are correct in that I am logical, so I do not hold my own beliefs over other people and allow them the ability to choose (I am pro marijuana legalization) Because you think that would weed out the idiots? | ||
sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:21 itzbrandnew wrote: From a PRO marijuana website. http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ "Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers." So if your problem is that it's something unhealthy you don't want in your life, you may feel justified. However, by your own admission she doesn't smoke that often and I haven't seen a study showing health issues relating to sporadic marijuana usage. Edit: I've grown up around cigarette smoke... maybe that makes it smell less awful or something, because to me they're both awful Edit 2: The whole marijuana argument comes down to personal freedom imo. Does your marijuana smoking harm others? (Other than a bad smell) I don't believe it does. Does marijuana put you at an unacceptably high risk? I don't believe it does, at the very least it's on par with alcohol (if not under it) Edit 3: Personal testimony from an anonymous internet user claiming to have gotten emphysema from near daily smoking of marijuana. http://www.marijuana.com/medicinal-marijuana/112018-6-yr-daily-smoker-diagnosed-emphysema-age-23-a.html To point out what emphysema is to those believing it is limited to smoking cigs... Emphysema is a serious lung disease where the alveoli and the narrow passages leading to these air sacs become permanently swollen air. Emphysema is not caused by smoking. But the smoking burns the tissue in the lungs so that the cells are dying faster than the body is able to replace them with new cells. So ANY smoking increases the risk of emphysema. Keep yourselves aware of ALL risks before trying any drugs people. Now, if you deem the risk sufficiently low, then go for it, that's a personal decision I feel you should be allowed to make. I couldn't let misinformation be propagated in this thread, though, sorry for the derail. From wikipedia: ![]() ![]() | ||
Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:33 Murderotica wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:31 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:25 mOnion wrote: i think the fact that your illogically annoyed by this even though you seem to be a logical person seems to indicate something deeper either you are covering up ur fear of commitment and moving in with this petty annoyance, or youre a hypocrite. i dont mean that negatively btw, lots of people are hypocritical, i think the word gets a bad connotation It's more an annoyance with anything people use as a crutch (I am not saying all people use such things as a crutch, but I do believe a lot of people tend to mislead themselves as they become more and more reliant on any substance, but hey, we all have our vices and maybe this is what bothers the OP). Alcohol, marijuana, any mind-altering drug. But that's a personal belief, and you are correct in that I am logical, so I do not hold my own beliefs over other people and allow them the ability to choose (I am pro marijuana legalization) Because you think that would weed out the idiots? I'm trying to figure out whether the weed reference was intended ![]() I don't think anything is likely to "weed" out idiots. Humans are pretty evenly distributed between geniuses and retards. | ||
sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:33 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:27 sob3k wrote: EDIT: lol, maybe you should have read the rest of the passage you quoted I did read the entire thing, I also read the study in which the researchers were CLEARLY biased in their testing. Just because an article says a study was presented does not mean the ATS accepted said study as factual findings. I'd also like to note that I had to dig around for the study myself, as the marijuana facts page does not cite it. Probably because anyone who clicks the link and reads the study would realize how full of shit it was. Care to enumerate why this study was biased and full of shit? | ||
Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:38 sob3k wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:21 itzbrandnew wrote: From a PRO marijuana website. http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ "Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers." So if your problem is that it's something unhealthy you don't want in your life, you may feel justified. However, by your own admission she doesn't smoke that often and I haven't seen a study showing health issues relating to sporadic marijuana usage. Edit: I've grown up around cigarette smoke... maybe that makes it smell less awful or something, because to me they're both awful Edit 2: The whole marijuana argument comes down to personal freedom imo. Does your marijuana smoking harm others? (Other than a bad smell) I don't believe it does. Does marijuana put you at an unacceptably high risk? I don't believe it does, at the very least it's on par with alcohol (if not under it) Edit 3: Personal testimony from an anonymous internet user claiming to have gotten emphysema from near daily smoking of marijuana. http://www.marijuana.com/medicinal-marijuana/112018-6-yr-daily-smoker-diagnosed-emphysema-age-23-a.html To point out what emphysema is to those believing it is limited to smoking cigs... Emphysema is a serious lung disease where the alveoli and the narrow passages leading to these air sacs become permanently swollen air. Emphysema is not caused by smoking. But the smoking burns the tissue in the lungs so that the cells are dying faster than the body is able to replace them with new cells. So ANY smoking increases the risk of emphysema. Keep yourselves aware of ALL risks before trying any drugs people. Now, if you deem the risk sufficiently low, then go for it, that's a personal decision I feel you should be allowed to make. I couldn't let misinformation be propagated in this thread, though, sorry for the derail. From wikipedia: ![]() ![]() You linked to wikipedia. Good job failing ANY academic research paper. At this point you're arguing semantics. I understand your point, but what you lack the education in is that emphysema isn't a by-product of smoking. Once again emphysema is... A disease that damages the air sacs and/or the smallest breathing tubes in the lungs. As the lungs lose elasticity, similar to an overused rubber band, the affected areas become enlarged. Smoking kills the cells causing them to regenerate at a slower rate. What smoking does is accelerate the process. We're arguing whether acceleration of this process constitutes cause of the process. You may be right, but in my mind acceleration is not cause. Regardless, in the best of scenarios you have proven a small statement wrong, and in the process further proven the danger of marijuana. | ||
Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:40 sob3k wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:33 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:27 sob3k wrote: EDIT: lol, maybe you should have read the rest of the passage you quoted I did read the entire thing, I also read the study in which the researchers were CLEARLY biased in their testing. Just because an article says a study was presented does not mean the ATS accepted said study as factual findings. I'd also like to note that I had to dig around for the study myself, as the marijuana facts page does not cite it. Probably because anyone who clicks the link and reads the study would realize how full of shit it was. Care to enumerate why this study was biased and full of shit? Give me a day and I'll bump this with the study itself. I've done research on marijuana usage in the past because I like to be informed about my voting decisions. I had to go through my school's research paper department to get access to the study. From memory, the study was funded by a pro-marijuana activist group and the lead researcher used a medical marijuana center as his pool to gather data from. Edit: I'd like to point out that in all fairness, being funded by a pro-marijuana group isn't BAD per se. But when every study that comes out leans towards the funding group's philosophy... | ||
Grobyc
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MountainDewJunkie
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:49 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:38 sob3k wrote: On September 15 2010 10:21 itzbrandnew wrote: From a PRO marijuana website. http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ "Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers." So if your problem is that it's something unhealthy you don't want in your life, you may feel justified. However, by your own admission she doesn't smoke that often and I haven't seen a study showing health issues relating to sporadic marijuana usage. Edit: I've grown up around cigarette smoke... maybe that makes it smell less awful or something, because to me they're both awful Edit 2: The whole marijuana argument comes down to personal freedom imo. Does your marijuana smoking harm others? (Other than a bad smell) I don't believe it does. Does marijuana put you at an unacceptably high risk? I don't believe it does, at the very least it's on par with alcohol (if not under it) Edit 3: Personal testimony from an anonymous internet user claiming to have gotten emphysema from near daily smoking of marijuana. http://www.marijuana.com/medicinal-marijuana/112018-6-yr-daily-smoker-diagnosed-emphysema-age-23-a.html To point out what emphysema is to those believing it is limited to smoking cigs... Emphysema is a serious lung disease where the alveoli and the narrow passages leading to these air sacs become permanently swollen air. Emphysema is not caused by smoking. But the smoking burns the tissue in the lungs so that the cells are dying faster than the body is able to replace them with new cells. So ANY smoking increases the risk of emphysema. Keep yourselves aware of ALL risks before trying any drugs people. Now, if you deem the risk sufficiently low, then go for it, that's a personal decision I feel you should be allowed to make. I couldn't let misinformation be propagated in this thread, though, sorry for the derail. From wikipedia: ![]() ![]() You linked to wikipedia. Good job failing ANY academic research paper. At this point you're arguing semantics. I understand your point, but what you lack the education in is that emphysema isn't a by-product of smoking. Once again emphysema is... A disease that damages the air sacs and/or the smallest breathing tubes in the lungs. As the lungs lose elasticity, similar to an overused rubber band, the affected areas become enlarged. Smoking kills the cells causing them to regenerate at a slower rate. What smoking does is accelerate the process. We're arguing whether acceleration of this process constitutes cause of the process. You may be right, but in my mind acceleration is not cause. Regardless, in the best of scenarios you have proven a small statement wrong, and in the process further proven the danger of marijuana. ok, your definition of cause and disease is pretty nonsensical. By this definition you could say that being stabbed in the heart is not really the CAUSE of death, as the heart naturally over time weakens and loses structural integrity, the stabbing only accelerates this process.... On September 15 2010 10:40 sob3k wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:33 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:27 sob3k wrote: EDIT: lol, maybe you should have read the rest of the passage you quoted I did read the entire thing, I also read the study in which the researchers were CLEARLY biased in their testing. Just because an article says a study was presented does not mean the ATS accepted said study as factual findings. I'd also like to note that I had to dig around for the study myself, as the marijuana facts page does not cite it. Probably because anyone who clicks the link and reads the study would realize how full of shit it was. Care to enumerate why this study was biased and full of shit? Are you going to address this, you made pretty serious claims about the validity of the largest study ever done on cancer and Marijuana usage, do you have anything to back them up? | ||
PanN
United States2828 Posts
Pretty much sums it up, you should. You have a girl that likes you very much and choose to be down about some random petty thing. | ||
Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:56 sob3k wrote: Are you going to address this, you made pretty serious claims about the validity of the largest study ever done on cancer and Marijuana usage, do you have anything to back them up? PMs. Sorry for shitting up your thread OP | ||
SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:52 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 10:40 sob3k wrote: On September 15 2010 10:33 itzbrandnew wrote: On September 15 2010 10:27 sob3k wrote: EDIT: lol, maybe you should have read the rest of the passage you quoted I did read the entire thing, I also read the study in which the researchers were CLEARLY biased in their testing. Just because an article says a study was presented does not mean the ATS accepted said study as factual findings. I'd also like to note that I had to dig around for the study myself, as the marijuana facts page does not cite it. Probably because anyone who clicks the link and reads the study would realize how full of shit it was. Care to enumerate why this study was biased and full of shit? Give me a day and I'll bump this with the study itself. I've done research on marijuana usage in the past because I like to be informed about my voting decisions. I had to go through my school's research paper department to get access to the study. From memory, the study was funded by a pro-marijuana activist group and the lead researcher used a medical marijuana center as his pool to gather data from. Edit: I'd like to point out that in all fairness, being funded by a pro-marijuana group isn't BAD per se. But when every study that comes out leans towards the funding group's philosophy... Ok, cool, I'd love to see it. It seems obvious that the data would come from a medical marijuana system, as any data drawn from illegal usage is sure to be extremely unreliable and extremely difficult to collect. I have only done cursory investigation of the study, it seemed pretty legitimate to me, not to mention that the lead on the study has in the past produced several studies used by drug enforcement agencies as evidence of the danger of marijuana (such as this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16128224), so he's not some hippy mouthpiece. | ||
HeadhunteR
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
You acknowledge your dislike is illogical, thus it is not her responsibility to acquiesce to your admittedly dumb prejudices. If you cannot deal with her small marijuana usage then it sucks for you, but it IS your job to get over it. We all do things that we know are stupid and make no sense, it is far better to work on fixing these things than trying to force other people to live in our fantasies. | ||
HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:03 mOnion wrote: honestly i think alcohol is worse than weed. you should get over it, and if you cant then leave. comparing weed to cigs is ridic btw Cigarettes are 10 times worse in terms of smell and health issues. Ive lost more people to cigarettes than marijuana, nobody dies from marijuana. I really find its weird that this comes up only when you move in. why werent you bothered by this earlier? You should be grateful she aint any other kind of girl, cause girls who smoke are different from the ones that dont. But as ive had problems with people around me smoking weed so i know where you are coming from. But i believe that if you are not ok with her smoking then you should think why are you with her then you will find out that you have much more to lose than to win if you leave her or decide not to move in yet. In my opinion you are being a huge wuss about it and you should just brush it off and you are going to get diss hard. Girls can find a million things that bother them and you my friend are a man you are made to make girls crazy, you will most likely be schooled on how much stuff you do wrong and how you are much worse at keeping the place nice and tidy and a lot of other things that you do wrong. If she doesnt do that then she is not "wife" material, wives are supposed to show you how bad you are doing things.... To sum up, yeah you are stupid for making something like this a problem when a serious issue comes up then you will be feeling much more dumb about it. | ||
SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
On September 15 2010 10:07 itzbrandnew wrote: Not to derail... but why? Both smell horrid cigs smell like garbage but weed smells awesome actually. | ||
Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
Honestly I think you need to worry about more than the pot smell if you need to make a post on TL.net about this instead of just having the conversation with her. | ||
synapse
China13814 Posts
(Maybe you quitting your drinking might set an example ![]() | ||
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Chill
Calgary25969 Posts
I'd like to say "man up bitch" or something but we've all had one thing like this. I'd bring it up once for a serious discussion, bring it as close to resolution as possible, and then I wouldn't bring it up again. | ||
endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
I mean, according to your wall of text, you are only bothered by the smell, right ? So a good tooth brushing should do the job ! | ||
InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
its about someone who doesnt like fuckin weed or smokers or watever... I can relate to u man! I grew up in a place where nobody around me ever did drugs, and if they did they d do it behind ppls back and no1 would ever know. Now, I live in the States and everybody knows weed isnt that big of a deal, but at least for me it is... even though ive done it, I will not date a girl that smokes weed. It just bothers me in the back of my mind because I dont associate it with any good. I find it really really stupid and why do I have to accept a girl that smokes weed? If I really like her Ill tell her I dont like it and I couldnt take her serious cuz of it; so at that point its her choice to smoke or be with u. Its not that complicated, matter fact it bothers u so u need to tell her... u guys could be great friends if she chooses weed over u, she wouldnt be worth ur time if she chooses weed over u imo You like people for who they are and what they do, u will never like her as much as u d want to because of the fact that she smokes weed, it makes total sense and u shouldnt feel stupid for feeling that way, It's you! its how u feel | ||
MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On September 15 2010 12:09 synapse wrote: (Maybe you quitting your drinking might set an example ![]() Well, she drinks more than I do, and I'm actually a "responsible" drunk [oxymoron?] (I cut myself off, don't drink till I puke, etc.). She is pretty much a binge drinker. She'll say no to weed at first, but X beers later and she's all over that shit if it's available. Goes that way for lots of people I know. But I mean, we'll never meet a girl that never does anything that we don't like, which is why I feel awkward even making a big deal out of this. They say don't knock it till you try it, but I really have no desire to smoke it. | ||
InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On September 15 2010 13:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 12:09 synapse wrote: (Maybe you quitting your drinking might set an example ![]() Well, she drinks more than I do, and I'm actually a "responsible" drunk [oxymoron?] (I cut myself off, don't drink till I puke, etc.). She is pretty much a binge drinker. She'll say no to weed at first, but X beers later and she's all over that shit if it's available. Goes that way for lots of people I know. But I mean, we'll never meet a girl that never does anything that we don't like, which is why I feel awkward even making a big deal out of this. They say don't knock it till you try it, but I really have no desire to smoke it. itd be dumb if u smoke because of it. Actually every1 is different, so just follow your heart and do what makes you happy, not what makes others happy | ||
Therapist..
United States57 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
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brian
United States9616 Posts
On September 15 2010 14:45 Therapist.. wrote: You should've been honest as soon as you found out she smoked weed. Dump her IMO, talking to a high girl while your sober is fucking annoying. lol what? how many high girls have you talked to? Was that generalization supposed to be serious? | ||
Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
You can't live with someone and supress your own needs just to make her happier (which might not even be the case). The sooner you ask the sooner you'll find out whether or not you want to continue being in this relationship. Best of luck to you =D | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32034 Posts
On September 15 2010 13:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 12:09 synapse wrote: (Maybe you quitting your drinking might set an example ![]() Well, she drinks more than I do, and I'm actually a "responsible" drunk [oxymoron?] (I cut myself off, don't drink till I puke, etc.). She is pretty much a binge drinker. She'll say no to weed at first, but X beers later and she's all over that shit if it's available. Goes that way for lots of people I know. But I mean, we'll never meet a girl that never does anything that we don't like, which is why I feel awkward even making a big deal out of this. They say don't knock it till you try it, but I really have no desire to smoke it. Im still missing why you havent just told her that you dont like it, but that all youre asking is that she just not do it around you | ||
Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
She can be doing worst things then weed but if it really bothers you that much then you better step it up and tell her this relationship wont work if she continues. | ||
Happy.fairytail
United States327 Posts
On September 15 2010 09:58 itzbrandnew wrote: Show nested quote + On September 15 2010 09:53 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Because as crazy as she is about me, as I know her, she does not compromise for any man. Even me. There is no such thing as a relationship without compromise (one that lasts anywho) Edit: Also, if she's willing to talk about it you need to be honest with her and let her know before she becomes comfortable with the notion that you are okay with it. This ... commitment and communication is so key and foundational to any relationship. As two different people, you need to know how to meet each other's needs, and the only way you can do that is by (1) finding out each other's needs through communication and (2) committing to meet each other's needs [which often necessitates compromise on both parties]. I think if you really care for her and she cares for you, then you should lay out both of your thoughts while reiterating how much you care for her and you want to make this relationship work. As she said, "her issues are our issues", so she needs to be aware of your needs and how the two of you can work out a way to meet both your needs and her needs. tl;dr: communicate more please, and make the decision of whether you want to commit or not =P | ||
InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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huyNh
Canada366 Posts
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