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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 24 2010 15:58 GMT
#21
And you have to use mouse for everything, bnet1 you could do basically everything with keyboard shortcuts, which if you haven't noticed, makes things faster. Oh, and you can't forget random drops in game where you don't lose internet connection or even connection to bnet2 (you go back to the multiplayer menu, still logged in, and in many cases it's obvious there was no drophack involved). Oh don't forget, no way to squelch someone in game. And if one of your real-id friends is being a real ass and bothering you, you can't squelch him unless you've also added him via 3 digit identifier.
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RushGG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom212 Posts
August 24 2010 15:59 GMT
#22
On August 25 2010 00:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I present you with CALCULATOR 2.0.!

I worked for months on this and its great, you're gonna love it. Server maintenance going on right now for an undetermined amount of time so sit tight before you get to your calculations.
[image loading]


Rofl, this is brilliant.
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:21:24
August 24 2010 16:03 GMT
#23
Speaking as someone who works with software and is aware of the challenges Blizzard might be facing in rolling out a large new project:

They suck.
They're lazy.
They're stupid.
They're run by interns.

You're absolutely correct to be outraged by a lot of these issues. There are good and simple fixes to the UI issues (assuming they haven't relegated the job to interns), the lack of LAN, cross-realm games, hosted live replays, & chat rooms. This bullshit is 100% political inertia - it's super easy to implement these things (unless they have interns writing all of their code).

I know Blizzard has a lot of smart engineers (full-time employees, not slave interns), so it has to be a failure of leadership and decisiveness. Or maybe they just plan on charging you extra for chat rooms in an expansion pack?

Why is it every time something new and improved comes out, no matter what it is. They always make it look all flashy and shit but totally forget the utilitarian side of it?

A lot of people who go into the game industry are artists & 3D graphics programmers. Only an experienced subset of Blizzards engineers (read: not interns) make the calls regarding how the engine runs - the overall performance of the game is therefore in the hands of a few, but performance optimization is always an afterthought (especially by interns).

We'll likely see a lot of lag and usability issues get fixed in major patches to come - after they've been complained about a lot in forums and the developers have had time to fully analyze the problem.

The devs have probably been so tied up with bugs in the unit physics/interactions, game logic and map editor, and cutting corners on the graphics prior to game release that they haven't had time to worry about game play. Also consider that the lobby code was probably developed by a separate team from the game engine (probably a team of interns).
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
August 24 2010 16:07 GMT
#24
i think this battle net topic covers most of our concerns...

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374941825

maybe we can just get teamliquid to win the internet again and get some changes implemented
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:17:31
August 24 2010 16:12 GMT
#25
I regret buying the game just to play online...server disconnects counts as loss, match finding takes up to half an hour at high levels, profiles doesn't load and everything else OP mentioned.

So much for a decade of expectations. All thou personally I'm not even disappointed because since 07 I didn't have any expectation that they would deliver the sequel to the best RTS of all-time.

Edit : Oh and for the past 2 days on the http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/ server, I can't play online because "No StarCraft II license found", I hope this is temporary...
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 24 2010 16:15 GMT
#26
wow bnet 2 sounds like big steaming pile of shit.

no hotkeys (ctrl c ctrl j ctrl H whatever/!??! WHAT!?)
no online replaying watchin a la war3.. -_-
no /f m
no / r

fffffffffffffffffffff

turns me off sc2 evne more even though bnet2 isnt part of the game..
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2010 16:15 GMT
#27
On August 25 2010 01:07 Freaky[x] wrote:
i think this battle net topic covers most of our concerns...

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374941825

maybe we can just get teamliquid to win the internet again and get some changes implemented

lot of these are really important/good.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 24 2010 16:18 GMT
#28
Maybe raise hell about it at blizzcon?
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
August 24 2010 16:18 GMT
#29
You know what, I thought I'd get used to it, but I haven't. Bnet 2 is just dumb. It is just dumb, for real.

What a colossal mistake by Blizzard. You gotta think there's something up in their office. This kind of shit would be unimaginable before WoW.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:25:08
August 24 2010 16:24 GMT
#30
Guys but the interface is so pretyyyyyyyyy how can you say these mean things .
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
August 24 2010 16:25 GMT
#31
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:30:53
August 24 2010 16:30 GMT
#32
On August 25 2010 01:25 mucker wrote:
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.

but at this logic, why would they even waste money creating all this inferior shit and marketing it only to have it ridiculed? Why not just stick with the same old shit they had before, its much cheaper.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:41:11
August 24 2010 16:31 GMT
#33
On August 25 2010 01:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 01:25 mucker wrote:
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.

but at this logic, why would they even waste money creating all this inferior shit and marketing it only to have it ridiculed? Why not just stick with the same old shit they had before, its much cheaper.


Because no amount of ridicule from TL and every other sc community will dent their profits. We all bought the game regardless of the obvious issues with bnet 2.0 right?

EDIT: Hell Starcraft 3 can be about the great pony wars of 2546 and we would still buy it.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:40:22
August 24 2010 16:39 GMT
#34
We did it because we believed Blizzard is good at what they do.

The more they keep dirting their name, the less credit Blizzard is gonna receive from us, eventually we will be so disappointed that we will no longer buy the low quality games from them. Of course it is Blizzard, so their credit with us will take a long time of fade out...

edit: just to clarify, I'm by no means saying SC2 is a low quality game!
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:41:19
August 24 2010 16:40 GMT
#35
On August 25 2010 01:31 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 01:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:25 mucker wrote:
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.

but at this logic, why would they even waste money creating all this inferior shit and marketing it only to have it ridiculed? Why not just stick with the same old shit they had before, its much cheaper.


Because no amount of ridicule from TL and every other sc community will dent their profits. We all bought the game regardless of the obvious issues with bnet 2.0 right?

so my argument remains, why would they waste their time making some shit then? Why not just keep the old one?

The only reason they would do this is to make more money with flashy new shit.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:44:06
August 24 2010 16:43 GMT
#36
On August 25 2010 01:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 01:31 Megalisk wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:25 mucker wrote:
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.

but at this logic, why would they even waste money creating all this inferior shit and marketing it only to have it ridiculed? Why not just stick with the same old shit they had before, its much cheaper.


Because no amount of ridicule from TL and every other sc community will dent their profits. We all bought the game regardless of the obvious issues with bnet 2.0 right?

so my argument remains, why would they waste their time making some shit then? Why not just keep the old one?

The only reason they would do this is to make more money with flashy new shit.


Your ninja edit is the answer. Do you think casualites wanna play on bnet 1.0? It is so efficient and simple to use, but its "ugly", there are no stupid achievements, and it lacks the myriad of other shit thats been added to bnet 2.0.

Even with all the development time and money spent, I guarantee that they made a hefty return on their "work".

@Fabiano We can all agree that SC2 kicks ass, but bnet -_-;
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:44:39
August 24 2010 16:43 GMT
#37
On August 25 2010 01:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 01:31 Megalisk wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:25 mucker wrote:
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.

but at this logic, why would they even waste money creating all this inferior shit and marketing it only to have it ridiculed? Why not just stick with the same old shit they had before, its much cheaper.


Because no amount of ridicule from TL and every other sc community will dent their profits. We all bought the game regardless of the obvious issues with bnet 2.0 right?

so my argument remains, why would they waste their time making some shit then? Why not just keep the old one?

The only reason they would do this is to make more money with flashy new shit.


Because the same old shit allowed for things like pirate servers and lan play over hamachi with pirate copies.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2010 16:44 GMT
#38
On August 25 2010 01:43 mucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 01:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:31 Megalisk wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:25 mucker wrote:
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.

but at this logic, why would they even waste money creating all this inferior shit and marketing it only to have it ridiculed? Why not just stick with the same old shit they had before, its much cheaper.


Because no amount of ridicule from TL and every other sc community will dent their profits. We all bought the game regardless of the obvious issues with bnet 2.0 right?

so my argument remains, why would they waste their time making some shit then? Why not just keep the old one?

The only reason they would do this is to make more money with flashy new shit.


Because the same old shit allowed for things like pirate servers and lan play over hamachi.

ie, make more money.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
August 24 2010 16:45 GMT
#39
On August 25 2010 01:44 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 01:43 mucker wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:31 Megalisk wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On August 25 2010 01:25 mucker wrote:
This is how big corporations work. It isn't about excellence, it is about good enough. Yeah, bnet2 blows, and we've all known since the beta. And we all still bought the game. And we're gonna buy the two expansions too, even if bnet2 doesn't improve.

but at this logic, why would they even waste money creating all this inferior shit and marketing it only to have it ridiculed? Why not just stick with the same old shit they had before, its much cheaper.


Because no amount of ridicule from TL and every other sc community will dent their profits. We all bought the game regardless of the obvious issues with bnet 2.0 right?

so my argument remains, why would they waste their time making some shit then? Why not just keep the old one?

The only reason they would do this is to make more money with flashy new shit.


Because the same old shit allowed for things like pirate servers and lan play over hamachi.

ie, make more money.


That's what corporations do.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2010 16:45 GMT
#40
this whole thing is just plain sad. it's just plain fucking sad.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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