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Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 05:49:57
August 23 2010 05:34 GMT
#1
I am in a game right now.

He has about 20 battlecruisers hovering over his mined out island on scrapstation. The island is full of turrets. Turrets apparently kill 3/3 voidrays and interceptors. I got a mothership in by suiciding 200/200 voidrays but my recall lost to BCs.

I have infinite money, since he only had 2 bases all game long.

TL, YOU'RE MY ONLY HOPE.

EDIT: MAN I LOST WHEN I WAS AFK. I thought people like this didn't exist at 700+ diamond. Thanks for the help though. Hallucination is a good idea for next time . Yah I couldn't feedback anything because he parked his BCs over his island and just went AFK himself for a long time. Recalls died before units could be clicked on :/

So embarrassing, but it's probably worth it for the time saved

EDIT2: On second thought I'm not really sure what to do: hallucinated recalls would probably die as fast as my regular recalls. Remember, he's on an island and he has turrets over literally every inch of terrain

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Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
August 23 2010 05:37 GMT
#2
Set up an impenetrable fortress at the opposite end of the map. Then send some probes to negotiate until you strike a deal.
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 23 2010 05:38 GMT
#3
LOLled so hard at 1st post.
Each day gets better : )
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
August 23 2010 05:39 GMT
#4
Hallu?
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 05:40:03
August 23 2010 05:39 GMT
#5
Mothership round 2. Use the black hole and get his bc's while your voidrays wreck everything else, once they're charge they'll destroy the bc's.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 23 2010 05:39 GMT
#6
How much money is infinite? Because his losses are intensely definite and yours are replenish able. even like 6:1 losses should be fine.
Each day gets better : )
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 05:40:29
August 23 2010 05:40 GMT
#7
On August 23 2010 14:39 huameng wrote:
Hallu?

Even though this video is SC1, I think
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is a good reference
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 06:15:53
August 23 2010 05:40 GMT
#8
Wear down his BCs with void rays until he's out of money.

Never sacrifice too many void rays at once so that he can counter attack. Just suicide and rebuild a few at a time.

Aren't carriers superior to void rays? You can sacrifice interceptors cheap while spiking BCs.

Although void rays are more likely to get kills. You could also spike the turrets if he has no minerals.

But it's possible he'll rebuild turrets. BCs are safer kill.

But BCs can be repaired more successfully because they have more HP / armor. Turrets die faster.

But repair costs money also.

Maxed carriers should be able to walk right in.
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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 23 2010 05:43 GMT
#9
get storm, rays, and start FAZING!!!
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 23 2010 05:45 GMT
#10
On August 23 2010 14:43 Loser777 wrote:
get storm, rays, and start FAZING!!!

I thought fazing doesn't work anymore?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
August 23 2010 05:46 GMT
#11
E-mail this rep to me when you're done?

Seems like you'd do the same thing as you would vs a turtling 2base T in BW on, say, HBR... except the cliff leading to the nat collapsed... and no mines.

Hallu recall sounds fun. GL!
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
August 23 2010 05:47 GMT
#12
Make Sentries and research hallucinations.

If there is a place where you can drop, add more warp gates and get warp prisms in.
Stalkers may do better than your air?

If there is enough place for pylons then drop probes there too.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 23 2010 06:03 GMT
#13
I say make some carriers and snipe stuff.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
August 23 2010 06:16 GMT
#14
Feedback spam?
Can't collosii hit islands with range upgrade?
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
August 23 2010 06:28 GMT
#15
mass hallucinate, bring mothership, recall tons of ht's, feedback/storm everything
Long live BroodWar!
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 23 2010 06:33 GMT
#16
The archon toilet!
Zaul
Profile Joined March 2010
17 Posts
August 23 2010 06:41 GMT
#17
Could've blinked over tons of stalkers too ... even if they only kill a few BCs, sooner or later the numbers will get low enough to kill em.

Oh well, too late now I suppose.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 23 2010 07:02 GMT
#18
On August 23 2010 15:41 Zaul wrote:
Could've blinked over tons of stalkers too ... even if they only kill a few BCs, sooner or later the numbers will get low enough to kill em.

Oh well, too late now I suppose.

Against 20 BCs the stalkers would die without killing a single BC most likely
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 23 2010 07:05 GMT
#19
mine out the map and sit tight lol. of course make stargates also. and get units with energy.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
August 23 2010 09:06 GMT
#20
Yeah in that situation I'd probably just do mass production facility and mine out everything. Deal damage slowly until he eventually runs out of cash and you win.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 23 2010 09:13 GMT
#21
Reminds me of the days when I would whore carriers from the two islands on LT lol
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
August 23 2010 09:42 GMT
#22
I think the black hole idea would have worked..Then you could attack with void rays and carriers
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19138 Posts
August 23 2010 10:07 GMT
#23
All I'll say is don't underestimate 20 yamato's. You're 20 voidrays or 10 carriers down before hardly even taking your first shot.
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Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia936 Posts
August 23 2010 10:14 GMT
#24
1)Mine out whole map with a void ray/carrier force to defend if he tries to move out. Be prepared to sac your main to yamatos, but don't let him yamato your force every once in a while - at least, make him go away from turrets if he wants to try that.
2)Kill most of your probes, get a bunch of stargates.
3)On ~90 free supply, add 30 more void rays/carriers.

4)Attack, rebuild, attack - you should have resources for at least couple of 200 air waves. He might survive one, but then he's dead.

5)Yup, hallucinations are good.

6)Can you vortex his BCs?
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
August 23 2010 11:25 GMT
#25
The best idea would of been sit back mass up like 10+/20+ stargates/warpgates and sit back with carriers, because you do not want to attack into that
Can you feel the rush?
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