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I think if the products were that great they'd send them to you free (with return mailing free) and subtract your sales from your commissions. Why not just go to walmart or the Filipino equivalent, buy some water bottles and sell them? Or whatever.
A real company will provide its salesmen with the tools to make sales free of charge, that policy benefits everyone. Can you imagine a car salesman having to buy their cars before selling them? How about appliance salesmen? TV salesmen? etc.
Do you think medical device salesmen go to hospitals and doctor's conferences with pacemakers they bought? Do real estate agents buy the houses before they sell them (this is actually illegal in a lot of places)? Even alcohol salesmen don't have to buy their own liquor. That wouldn't make any sense at all.
What is this product that its so special and irreplaceable that you need to pay for the privelege of making someone else money? Why isn't their business model commission based?
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I'm not about to have this agrument again on TL. PM me if you want my direct marketing experiences, but it was a definite success for me. If you think the product is sellable go for it. Just stay away from the stuff like what was on the "easy money" episode of this season of Penn & Teller Bullshit! (go look for it)
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On August 19 2010 14:08 mikeymoo wrote:
I'm not about to have this agrument again on TL. PM me if you want my direct marketing experiences, but it was a definite success for me. If you think the product is sellable go for it. Just stay away from the stuff like what was on the "easy money" episode of this season of Penn & Teller Bullshit! (go look for it)
Already watched that episode of Penn & Teller. Also, I'm already saying no to this one.  Would like the PM too mikey, if you read this. :p
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On August 19 2010 12:00 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2010 21:19 Lucid90 wrote:
My advice is to not even consider it. Go into a real industry or get an education that can actually land you a real job, not just a arts or business degree. I'm already a graduate from one of the best (if not the best) schools here in the Philippines; so having an education isn't a problem for me. Also, I have already said that I'll just keep on playing them with a string then cut loose (tell them I'm not interested anymore) because I've found a different opportunity.
If you're paying up front you're not winning by quitting a few weeks in...
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On August 19 2010 21:55 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2010 12:00 Ciryandor wrote:On August 18 2010 21:19 Lucid90 wrote:
My advice is to not even consider it. Go into a real industry or get an education that can actually land you a real job, not just a arts or business degree. I'm already a graduate from one of the best (if not the best) schools here in the Philippines; so having an education isn't a problem for me. Also, I have already said that I'll just keep on playing them with a string then cut loose (tell them I'm not interested anymore) because I've found a different opportunity. If you're paying up front you're not winning by quitting a few weeks in...
I'm just toying with their offers, being non-committal about even going into it. I've decided that focusing my energies on getting overwhelmed with interviews and whatnot is a better way to spend my time.
*disclaimer: I could ask for a tempban on my account to make sure I focus on that alone*
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ehh, stay away from this sort of stuff.
just get a white collar office job to start. pay doesnt have to be good, internship even. got to get your foot in the door, get more work experience on your resume, and hope for the best.
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It IS possible to make money in these sort of schemes, but isn't fast, it isn't easy, and it isn't worth it. The only way to do it is to put tons of time and effort into it (like any job I guess) and you are starting out with a debt basically.
If you have Showtime (or want to rent/buy a DVD I guess) there is a decent episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit show that goes into this. I forget what season/episode though.
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like all things in life. you gotta get down to the nitty gritty and sell your ass off. recruit and sell, recruit and sell. thats the only way to make it. if you like to sit in front of the pc and fuck around, then direct marketing is not for you. find a good product to pitch and go SELL IT!
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Or you could join a legit company and become a salesman without having to cough up nearly a week's paycheck for shit that any legit place would give you...
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On August 21 2010 02:54 itzme_petey wrote:
like all things in life. you gotta get down to the nitty gritty and sell your ass off. recruit and sell, recruit and sell. thats the only way to make it. if you like to sit in front of the pc and fuck around, then direct marketing is not for you. find a good product to pitch and go SELL IT!
Dude, the odds of making any decent money in direct marketing are about 0.3%
Even if you "get off your PC, and try to recruit and sell the best product in the world in the best direct marketing company in the world", the odds are just against you. its NOT a realistic career. People will give you just about any goddamn reason why they DONT wanna be recruited in your business, and potential customers will be almost as hard to get. it just doesnt make any sense to invest even just 1 hour in direct marketing unless youre genetically amongst the top 1% salesmen in your country. it just doesnt work. The second you get on the phone with a friend or someone you barely know, and you try to invite them to a meeting to get them in the business, the conversation turns negative and sour after about 3.5 seconds. People are just against the idea. Whatever you say, you dont stand a fuckin' chance. GG
On top of that, you gotta lie on a daily basis. Lying to people about how they have a chance at making it and how they're as good salesmen as you are, and lying about how they best thing for them is to continue trying to recruit and sell. i had 65 reps under me and they all quit because i wasn't making any money and they weren't making any money. Nobody had more than 10 personal customers, and pretty much none of my friends and none of their friends wanted to do it. it was like each rep had 1 friend out of 35 who said yes about joining. but nobody had more than 2 personal recruits. . nobody makes money unless your rep count is in the thousands. and thats beyond impossible for 99.7% of would-be salespeople in this world.
IT DOES NOT WORK.
Doesnt
Dont
Not Working
Failure.
Never will
Never did.
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