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Does Zerg really suck?

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KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 17 2010 01:54 GMT
#1
People need to go back to WoW, and learn that SC is much tougher. (Z)Just because you play the (T)Game for 15 hours a (Z)Day, doesn't mean that you're going to be #1 with top tier macro, and (T)Sexy micro. I'm sick of hearing all these people saying OP after every time they lose.

You need to understand that zerg is a (Z)great race. I am top 100 in my league, and I play zerg. The (T)Only (Z)ReasoN why people are so good with toss and terran is that people play with those 2 races the most in the campaign. If zerg was in the campaign, then people would be saying zerg is op all the time.

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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 17 2010 02:00 GMT
#2
The most interesting part of your blog was clicking on the liquipedia pages for all the different players.

For the purpose of not getting banned, I would like to say that while the bronze level distribution might be changed, I think most people will just choose what seems most interesting to them. I somehow doubt that the campaign content had any serious effect on IdrA/Artosis/Dimaga's opinion of balance.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 17 2010 02:00 GMT
#3
Possible (poor) troll attempt? In any case, 1/5
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 17 2010 02:05 GMT
#4
I think idra/artosis/dimaga's opinion of balance were just like in sc1. Idra chose terran, because of slayers_'boxer' and assen. Everyone knows that. Artosis changed races, because of the beta, before the game was even out, and dimaga wanted to micro more. Don't you think it's weird when people complain about how imbalanced zvz is? You start with the same workers and same hatch. It's balanced.
Phil4994
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States143 Posts
August 17 2010 02:08 GMT
#5
T he only thing i have to say is that Zerg is OP! I seriously cant even compete with them. They are Really good. I'm a 600+ point Diamond Protoss, and my PvT and PvP are my best. The Zerg I verse Own. Everything I try to do just fails. I go 2 Gate, then I get RAPED by roaches, or banelings or
Lings. I'm thinking about switching to Zerg because I want to own just like them. I would freaking just Love to mass mutas and win. What a freaking stupid game. It's so imbalanced.
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
August 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#6
I don't think an incendiary post to tell people to go back to WoW will work on a forum where everyone plays SC. I mean, why make a blog about the number of people who QQ about races being OP just so you can add to the number of such posts?

In SC1 and SC:BW all three races were in the campaigns. But especially in vanilla StarCraft, the races were not at all "balanced" upon release. I'm not going to go into the balance stuff, since this has been discussed over and over on these forums. However, the campaign content of SC1 did not change the myriads of "imba"s that existed upon release. Oddly enough I remember that in the Zerg campaign's first mission, even if your version is patched to have 200 min spawning pools, Daggoth will still tell you to build your pool when you get 150 mins. And I'm pretty sure 150 min spawning pools were responsible for lots of complaints about imbalance early in SC history, despite the relative unimportance to the campaign. Campaign and multiplayer are not related in the balance discussion.
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#7
Yeah, toss plays in the dark once the roaches/ling come out. It's like you have to make some big guess about what tech the zerg is going. They'll probably patch it soon. Just stick with the toss, and you'll be good once they patch it.
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 17 2010 02:14 GMT
#8
When the pool was 150 mins, you didn't hear boxer complaining to yellow. I think i heard more people whine about how the terrans could wall. "OMG the rush won't work. Terran is too good, because they can wall their ramp."
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 17 2010 02:16 GMT
#9
On August 17 2010 11:10 KeKeZergRush wrote:
Yeah, toss plays in the dark once the roaches/ling come out. It's like you have to make some big guess about what tech the zerg is going. They'll probably patch it soon. Just stick with the toss, and you'll be good once they patch it.

this doesnt seem like something they would patch out...try out some HALLUCINATED PHOENIX! they are insanely useful for scouting
or if your going robo tech (lololololol....ive been moving farther and farther from robo in all mu except PvP bc its insanely hard to rebuild) just grab an obs
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#10
On August 17 2010 11:16 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 11:10 KeKeZergRush wrote:
Yeah, toss plays in the dark once the roaches/ling come out. It's like you have to make some big guess about what tech the zerg is going. They'll probably patch it soon. Just stick with the toss, and you'll be good once they patch it.

this doesnt seem like something they would patch out...try out some HALLUCINATED PHOENIX! they are insanely useful for scouting
or if your going robo tech (lololololol....ive been moving farther and farther from robo in all mu except PvP bc its insanely hard to rebuild) just grab an obs



Hey,
I know you from iccup
What's your sc2 ID#?
If you scout like that, then it puts you way behind though. Zerg has so many options to counter it. I just make mutas, and use the moving shot.
Mantown Mayor
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 17 2010 02:22 GMT
#11
This guy knows what the hell he's talking about, Zerg is the Sentinel of this game.
Veni, Vedi, Vici
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
August 17 2010 02:23 GMT
#12
On August 17 2010 11:14 KeKeZergRush wrote:
When the pool was 150 mins, you didn't hear boxer complaining to yellow. I think i heard more people whine about how the terrans could wall. "OMG the rush won't work. Terran is too good, because they can wall their ramp."


Yeah you're right. Boxer is that much of a man. On the other hand though, all the low level banter about zergling rushes pretty much CREATED the zerg rush meme. Also, i don't think most terran wall-ins on old school maps were ling proof back then. It wasn't until Boxer started doing really well did people find terran to be viable and subsequently good in multiplayer. And, the Terran OP talk in SC2 is a similar phenomenon here imo. It may very well pass w/ expansions or a shift in map balance or the metagame.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 17 2010 02:28 GMT
#13
This really doesn't explain why zerg was bad in later stages of beta too. And how does playing campaign help that much? It doesn't. And as I said, it does NOT explain zerg's bad performance in beta
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 17 2010 02:33 GMT
#14
What about when roaches cost just 1 unit count and healed faster than medics heal when burrowed? If you call that bad performance, then you deserve to be in wood league.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17248 Posts
August 17 2010 02:46 GMT
#15
On August 17 2010 10:54 KeKeZergRush wrote:
If zerg was in the campaign, then people would be saying zerg is op all the time.


That's not even a kind-of-good attempt at logic. It's a completely fallacious line of thought.

Protoss is in the campaign, yet all the OP threads seem to be solely about Terran. It's just that damn irrelevant.
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 17 2010 02:51 GMT
#16
Thank you for your insight, a thousand posts from now you'll probably look back on this and laugh
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Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 17 2010 02:53 GMT
#17
On August 17 2010 11:51 n.DieJokes wrote:
Thank you for your insight, a thousand posts from now you'll probably look back on this and laugh


no need to wait for a thousand posts, I laugh right now. Good lord
"this is op"

I think I'm gonna use this in rl from now on
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KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
August 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#18
People complain about toss being op. Look at how fast void rays shields regenerate. Toss regenerates shields quicker than zerg regenerates health, and yet toss moves faster than zerg, builds units faster, and yet people who play toss just say terran is op, because their units are slowed by marauders and they can't fight.

I just say to them, learn to use psi storm.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
August 17 2010 03:04 GMT
#19
Why did you TLPD-ize the entire post?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 17 2010 03:06 GMT
#20
The Only ReasoN why people are so good with toss and terran is that people play with those 2 races the most in the campaign. If zerg was in the campaign, then people would be saying zerg is op all the time.

I'm confused now.... Is he serious?
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