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Her name is Maggie and she is a pure bred golden lab and is around 9 months old. We got her as a little puppy and she seemed healthy enough back then.
The reason she is getting put down is because she has serious hip problems (Hip displaysia) and some spine problems too. She can barely run (it's more like her back legs are hopping) and it hurts her to walk very far. She basically just sits around the house all day and is more like a cat than a dog. She can move on her own but if we try to take her for a walk she will collapse about 20 feet and just bark/cry. We have to carry her up and down the stairs every time. Her growth is also stunted and she is really skinny. Her rib cage is visible and her back hips look really bizarre.
Our family loves her very much but I guess my parents feel that her condition is no life for a dog. She is basically just a dog's head.
Anyways, now I just get really sad whenever I look at her knowing that she's going to die in a couple of days. It's a real tragedy. I have mixed feelings on whether or not she should be put down or not but in the end it's not my decision (or at least I don't want to be a part of the decision.)
Really sad because she's so young and so sweet. Putting down old, dying dogs is one thing but this is just heartbreaking.
 
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God that is so sad =[ I'm so sorry I can't imagine how that entire situation must feel.
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That is quite sad.
It is a tough thing to put down a beloved pet, most people put it off because they don't want to face that kind of decision. In the end it is selfish though if the pet is in pain.
Honestly I wouldnt be able to make such a decision. My family lost our pet to cancer and we put off the option of putting her to sleep because we loved her too much and it seemed hard to predict what would really happen. Or perhaps we were just avoiding what was to come.
On a side note, hip displaysia is a big problem with labs and many breeders produce dogs that will develop the problem. You need to find a high quality breeder who has certification and a history of the parent dogs for healthy genetics.
Sorry your puppy had to go through this.
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This blog would be so much better if you provided a picture, im really curious to see the dog.
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I really hate most dog breeders. It's downright depressing what they've done to some of these breeds.
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On August 01 2010 08:29 Biochemist wrote:
I really hate most dog breeders. It's downright depressing what they've done to some of these breeds.
Yea I have to agree.
After seeing how many issues pure breeds tend to have I only get mixed breeds as pets. They are just over all much healthier.
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I've lost two dogs. It's like the saddest thing ever 
Really sorry man, enjoy what time you can with your puppy.
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On August 01 2010 08:33 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 08:29 Biochemist wrote:
I really hate most dog breeders. It's downright depressing what they've done to some of these breeds. Yea I have to agree. After seeing how many issues pure breeds tend to have I only get mixed breeds as pets. They are just over all much healthier.
I don't actually necessarily agree there. While specific breeds have specific health problems which can be genetically washed out with interbreeding, I have a purebred siberian husky who is perfectly healthy, and many of my friends have healthy purebreds as well.
That being said, there's nothing wrong with mixed breed animals - often they're nicer and more docile.
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my family also had my dog put down years ago, its not an easy thing to go through with. I still have regrets about her (my dog) to this day, but it doesnt hurt nearly as much. Sometimes getting another pet can help, even though it feels like its wrong. My mom/sister wanted to get cats a couple years after our dog was put down, and I resisted it, but I still love them now (even though dogs are better lol). If your dog is in that much pain, its clear what the choice should be though imo.
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I will post a picture, I just need to find some batteries.
Well I took pictures but I'm having trouble with the drivers atm.
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It is so sad that so many labradors get that disease, and I really feel for you OP. One of my exes whom i lived with for some time had a labrador, and I gotta say i really miss that bitch. No, not my ex, the other bitch. 
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I had to put down our 16+ year old golden retriever, Duke.
He had been suffering from arthritis for the past 2 years or so, but still, he was usually happy to see us, and had a good time playing around with our new beagle. I came home from high school one day, and my mom told me that he couldn't get up the outside stairs, and had urinated on himself where he lay. I went and carried him inside, and I told my mom to call the vet; I knew it was his time.
It's very sad to put down a loved pet, and believe me, my whole family mourned the loss of ol' Duke. In the end though, it's the right thing to do. Don't let your pet suffer a day they don't necessarily have to.
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What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it.
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On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it.
I love dogs, but sadly you can't compare a dog to a human. Although I do love my dog a lot more than most humans
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I also had to have my dog put down when it was not that old. I was even there assisting the vet set the final injection. It was a very hard decision to make, especially considering the age of the dog. It was a very emotional situation. And for the next couple of weeks the house felt emptier.
Your parents probably made the right call to put her down because she would only get worse and worse. And dogs are really good about hiding pain so if she is complaining, that should tell you that it is pretty bad. Hopefully you'll be able to enjoy your last days with the dog without thinking too much about that she will be gone. Spoil her as much as possible. Feed her from the table, let her sleep in your bed, let her eat unhealthy things etc.
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On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it.
Are you part of their family? Have you met their dog? Get off the high horse, there's no need for that crap here.
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yeah because his dog would totally be able to live in a wheelchair, if there even was such a thing for dogs. The dog can barely walk, its life is pretty much hell. If it were living in the wild it wouldnt last a day.
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=( such a sad blog. my condolences
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On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it.
This is something I can't deny and that's why it's a really hard decision. But can a dog really have a happy life living in a wheel chair? I don't know... She can't do anything a dog should be able to do. She seems happy enough at times but I think it will only get worse and her pain will only increase.
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On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it.
A person in a wheelchair is still a perfectly functional human being, unable to walk but still able to move around because of the wheelchair. And also human != animal.
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On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it.
Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do.
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we also had to do that to our beagle, Snoopy. it was a long time ago, but I think something inside her ruptured and she had internal bleeding. that dog had lived for 3 or 4 years without eyes, because there was pressure building in them and they were getting really big, so my parents paid for the surgery. we had to put padding on the chair legs for her. she was put down around 16 years old. I couldn't watch them do it. I like to remember my childhood, when she'd jump on my bed and sleep on my sheets with me.
I feel for you, it's a hard choice to make and live with.
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i feel you i woke up a couple weeks back to find my dog had died in his sleep, he was a 5 year old cavalier king charles spaniel that a couple years back start having problems being touched as his brain was pressed against his skull and it caused his nervous system to get all fucked up so his legs would have spasms that would make it look like he was just scratching himself, he yelped when you tried to pick him up and and it was so sad, and then he was just gone
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god i really hate to hear stuff like this T_T
im really sorry man.... best of luck to you, your family, and your dog
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sorry to hear this, we just got two cats 9 months ago and I can't even imagine how it'd be to have one of them be in such a condition
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On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do.
A dog can still love you even if it cant run.
It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it.
You're an asshole.:X
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Poor dog. I'm not a huge fan of animals and don't keep any pets other than 2 fish, but still...
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i will consider myself young until the day my dog dies. it's the single event i dread the most, every time i try to look ahead.
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On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X
i think it's far more asshole to see the poor thing in visible pain and suffering every day of its life.
We had to put my dog down cause of health problems too, though she'd lived out her life expectancy that was easily the hardest thing ive ever been through
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I guess since everyone is sharing....
We had a Cocker-Spanial Mix that we got in Spain. She stayed healthy for the most part but when she got older, she started going blind. One day she just stopped eating so we took her to vet and thats when they found out that not only had she gone completely blind by this point, but she had cancer as well T_T
I did'nt even have the luxery or getting to spend time with her before it.....
My parents just came home and told me they were putting her down, and to say goodbye to her. Worst day of my life.
Like most people said, just remember the good times.
My condolences to you and your family, It's a very hard thing to go through, just had a cat that had to get surgery to remove a tumor in her jaw a couple of months ago, luckily she survived, but its one of those things that just does'nt get any easier with time.
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Horrendous
I hate to say it, but it's probably better to do it before you get even more attached to the poor dog.
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Honestly I love my dog so much, she is actually what got me to love dogs in general. Getting bit teary just imagining her dying. My family euthanized my dog when I was like 3 or something, it was a bit different but if I had to lose my new dogs....
Just want you to know there are people who feel your pain and have gone through it. Doesn't make it any happier, but I just want you to know you aren't alone. I'm sorry.
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Aww.. as a 9 month old puppy, not being able to run around and do mischievous puppy things is not the way she should be living. Even after surgeries and replacements, a dog wouldn't be the same =/
I'm sure it was a hard decision - losing a pet really sucks. I lost my cat of 12 years - she was found Thanksgiving morning 2007, dead in her bed. And now that I have Taco, I can't imagine how he's be if he had hip/leg problems, it would just be unfair to let him live in pain like that.
I agree with a previous poster, spoil her as you can in her final days and show her lots of love
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Losing a pet is never easy, I have had to put down two. One was my 1st dog ever that we got when I was six years old... He had been having seizures and one just left him completely out of it, was the hardest thing ever. Sorry for you OP
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On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X
Dog's don't have the psyche of a human. Dogs try to hide away all the pain because if they cry it makes them look weak (from their instinct point of view).
My dog came home after a long surgery, I carried her home with the just made stitches and she wanted to get up continuously for 3 hours, even though she was drugged up from the surgery and weakened because she didn't ate much for it. When I asked the vet he told me about that.
So even though the love may still have it's happy moments, it's still very hard say "he will live a normal life" in a wheelchair. A human has an intelligence to objectively analyze things and put other things aside. Animals don't work the same as we do, so we can't really put ourselves in their place.
Deciding to put a pet down is a very hard decision, and it's not about "not wanting to have a crippled pet in home" but to save them from the pain.
All that said, I don't know the details for this case, but it sounds pretty bad. I would talk to a vet to know how good / bad the situation could get.
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This is obviously the best choice and we do this to our dogs when they have problems(really sick etc etc)
Best of luck man
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it's the fucking worst dude...just took my dog to the vet a week ago to get him checked and he never came back out.. not much to say about these things honestly, but you are for sure making the right choice here for your dog.
RIP our little buddies you will be missed
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On August 01 2010 09:35 intrigue wrote:
i will consider myself young until the day my dog dies. it's the single event i dread the most, every time i try to look ahead.
I hate to think of what my house will be like without my cats, I get really sad thinking about it now even. I'll be kind of happy that I don't live there anymore after they are gone.
Sorry to hear about your dog, OP, but it's probably the right thing to do.
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i don't know what you're going through, since i'm not too big of an animal person and most of you posters seems you can relate to this guy.
i hope for the best, give your doggy lots of kisses ^_^
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On August 01 2010 10:07 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X Dog's don't have the psyche of a human. Dogs try to hide away all the pain because if they cry it makes them look weak (from their instinct point of view). My dog came home after a long surgery, I carried her home with the just made stitches and she wanted to get up continuously for 3 hours, even though she was drugged up from the surgery and weakened because she didn't ate much for it. When I asked the vet he told me about that. So even though the love may still have it's happy moments, it's still very hard say "he will live a normal life" in a wheelchair. A human has an intelligence to objectively analyze things and put other things aside. Animals don't work the same as we do, so we can't really put ourselves in their place. Deciding to put a pet down is a very hard decision, and it's not about "not wanting to have a crippled pet in home" but to save them from the pain. All that said, I don't know the details for this case, but it sounds pretty bad. I would talk to a vet to know how good / bad the situation could get.
You notice how you contradict yourself? First you describe how an animal feels and then you say we cant put ourself in their place.
Putting pet down is a decision you have no right to make. It is in no way in more sane then having sex with an animal. It's just something commonly accepted because it's more convenient than looking after a sick pet. Blaah, sick pets arent fun!
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On August 01 2010 09:49 lilsusie wrote:
Aww.. as a 9 month old puppy, not being able to run around and do mischievous puppy things is not the way she should be living. Even after surgeries and replacements, a dog wouldn't be the same =/
that's exactly the issue with all of you monsters.
Oh my toy wouldnt be the same, time for a new one.
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On August 01 2010 10:45 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 10:07 IntoTheWow wrote:On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X Dog's don't have the psyche of a human. Dogs try to hide away all the pain because if they cry it makes them look weak (from their instinct point of view). My dog came home after a long surgery, I carried her home with the just made stitches and she wanted to get up continuously for 3 hours, even though she was drugged up from the surgery and weakened because she didn't ate much for it. When I asked the vet he told me about that. So even though the love may still have it's happy moments, it's still very hard say "he will live a normal life" in a wheelchair. A human has an intelligence to objectively analyze things and put other things aside. Animals don't work the same as we do, so we can't really put ourselves in their place. Deciding to put a pet down is a very hard decision, and it's not about "not wanting to have a crippled pet in home" but to save them from the pain. All that said, I don't know the details for this case, but it sounds pretty bad. I would talk to a vet to know how good / bad the situation could get. You notice how you contradict yourself? First you describe how an animal feels and then you say we cant put ourself in their place. Putting pet down is a decision you have no right to make. It is in no way in more sane then having sex with an animal. It's just something commonly accepted because it's more convenient than looking after a sick pet. Blaah, sick pets arent fun!
That's not a contradiction. The first is animal behavior study, the second phrase means we cannot put ourselves in a dogs place and think as humans to make decisions.
Also, try to remember where you are posting. You are not making this a better place by mocking people and using cheap attacks at people.
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OP I'm sorry to hear it. I'm almost glad I was spared this pain with our 17 year old dog when she was dognapped and died while escaping (my first blog post here I think)
On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X
What a horrible post. Dogs live to run. If a dog is going to be in pain every day for the rest of its life, and unable to do what it was bred to do, what it longs to do, it is a selfish cruelty to keep it around. You would be the asshole for making it suffer to make yourself feel better
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On August 01 2010 10:47 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 10:45 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 10:07 IntoTheWow wrote:On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X Dog's don't have the psyche of a human. Dogs try to hide away all the pain because if they cry it makes them look weak (from their instinct point of view). My dog came home after a long surgery, I carried her home with the just made stitches and she wanted to get up continuously for 3 hours, even though she was drugged up from the surgery and weakened because she didn't ate much for it. When I asked the vet he told me about that. So even though the love may still have it's happy moments, it's still very hard say "he will live a normal life" in a wheelchair. A human has an intelligence to objectively analyze things and put other things aside. Animals don't work the same as we do, so we can't really put ourselves in their place. Deciding to put a pet down is a very hard decision, and it's not about "not wanting to have a crippled pet in home" but to save them from the pain. All that said, I don't know the details for this case, but it sounds pretty bad. I would talk to a vet to know how good / bad the situation could get. You notice how you contradict yourself? First you describe how an animal feels and then you say we cant put ourself in their place. Putting pet down is a decision you have no right to make. It is in no way in more sane then having sex with an animal. It's just something commonly accepted because it's more convenient than looking after a sick pet. Blaah, sick pets arent fun! That's not a contradiction. The first is animal behavior study, the second phrase means we cannot put ourselves in a dogs place and think as humans to make decisions. Also, try to remember where you are posting. You are not making this a better place by mocking people and using cheap attacks at people.
No it is a contradiction. If you can't approach their thinking as a human, how do you know what is best for them. Now seriously, if your dog had a choice do you think it would choose to be put down, or spend its last days quietly? Weak animals would die in natural habitat and as a human you have a gift to prolong their life, and instead of utilizing this amazing gift you want to do the opposite? Murder it?
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That is sad. Having any kind of animal u own die is such a depressing time
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On August 01 2010 10:48 MamiyaOtaru wrote:OP I'm sorry to hear it. I'm almost glad I was spared this pain with our 17 year old dog when she was dognapped and died while escaping (my first blog post here I think) Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X What a horrible post. Dogs live to run. If a dog is going to be in pain every day for the rest of its life, and unable to do what it was bred to do, what it longs to do, it is a selfish cruelty to keep it around. You would be the asshole for making it suffer to make yourself feel better
Are you insane? Keep it around? I'm not keeping it around, i'm just not killing it. I don't have a God complex and i don't think i have the right to decide who dies and who lives.
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Thanks guys for all the encouragement, it helps. It's good to know most people agree with the choice (although of course some people will disagree) and not think it is a horrible decision.
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On August 01 2010 10:53 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 10:48 MamiyaOtaru wrote:OP I'm sorry to hear it. I'm almost glad I was spared this pain with our 17 year old dog when she was dognapped and died while escaping (my first blog post here I think) On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X What a horrible post. Dogs live to run. If a dog is going to be in pain every day for the rest of its life, and unable to do what it was bred to do, what it longs to do, it is a selfish cruelty to keep it around. You would be the asshole for making it suffer to make yourself feel better Are you insane? Keep it around? I'm not keeping it around, i'm just not killing it. I don't have a God complex and i don't think i have the right to decide who dies and who lives.
Wait, first you accuse others of being 'monsters' that treat the animals as mere toys and discard these said 'toys' when they are inconvenient to take care of, then you later say that you wouldn't keep these fatally disabled animals around either and you are vindicated - because you didn't kill them! But you are still detaching any responsibility over such animals precisely for the same reasons - because they are inconvenient.
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On August 01 2010 11:02 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 10:53 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 10:48 MamiyaOtaru wrote:OP I'm sorry to hear it. I'm almost glad I was spared this pain with our 17 year old dog when she was dognapped and died while escaping (my first blog post here I think) On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X What a horrible post. Dogs live to run. If a dog is going to be in pain every day for the rest of its life, and unable to do what it was bred to do, what it longs to do, it is a selfish cruelty to keep it around. You would be the asshole for making it suffer to make yourself feel better Are you insane? Keep it around? I'm not keeping it around, i'm just not killing it. I don't have a God complex and i don't think i have the right to decide who dies and who lives. Wait, first you accuse others of being 'monsters' that treat the animals as mere toys and discard these said 'toys' when they are inconvenient to take care of, then you later say that you wouldn't keep these fatally disabled animals around either and you are vindicated - because you didn't kill them! But you are still detaching any responsibility over such animals precisely for the same reasons - because they are inconvenient.
you misunderstood my post.
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On August 01 2010 10:47 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:49 lilsusie wrote:
Aww.. as a 9 month old puppy, not being able to run around and do mischievous puppy things is not the way she should be living. Even after surgeries and replacements, a dog wouldn't be the same =/
that's exactly the issue with all of you monsters. Oh my toy wouldnt be the same, time for a new one.
... A dog wouldn't be the same as in he wouldn't be able to run around freely and with the confidence that a dog should have.
You apparently know nothing of animal psychology and how dogs work. You cannot compare a human and a dog, the way we work is different. You cannot put a dog in a wheelchair all his life; you cannot keep a dog to his bed forever either. A dog needs to be free to run, dig, jump, scratch - all with their legs. You, sir, are the monster if you wish to keep your dog around while its in pain. It's not about the "omg I can't take care of a sick dog" but rather what is best for the dog. I suppose then one should just let the dog that is in pain out into the wild and have him get killed "naturally"? How is that any better than allowing him to die peacefully in the safety of a vet clinic?
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And also you guys are saying you would put down your dog because it was born to run and shit?
Did you not neuter your dog? Is it only born to run, but not to have sex? ? ? Why didnt you put it down immidiately after you neutered it? It was born to procreate wasnt it?
You guys are just too selfish to think about your pet and just do whatever is convenient for you.
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On August 01 2010 11:05 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 10:47 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:49 lilsusie wrote:
Aww.. as a 9 month old puppy, not being able to run around and do mischievous puppy things is not the way she should be living. Even after surgeries and replacements, a dog wouldn't be the same =/
that's exactly the issue with all of you monsters. Oh my toy wouldnt be the same, time for a new one. ... A dog wouldn't be the same as in he wouldn't be able to run around freely and with the confidence that a dog should have. You apparently know nothing of animal psychology and how dogs work. You cannot compare a human and a dog, the way we work is different. You cannot put a dog in a wheelchair all his life; you cannot keep a dog to his bed forever either. A dog needs to be free to run, dig, jump, scratch - all with their legs. You, sir, are the monster if you wish to keep your dog around while its in pain. It's not about the "omg I can't take care of a sick dog" but rather what is best for the dog. I suppose then one should just let the dog that is in pain out into the wild and have him get killed "naturally"? How is that any better than allowing him to die peacefully in the safety of a vet clinic?
I covered all those points you made already.
And there are plenty of dogs who run around with those wheel carts attached and have decent life.
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On August 01 2010 09:10 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
yeah because his dog would totally be able to live in a wheelchair, if there even was such a thing for dogs. The dog can barely walk, its life is pretty much hell. If it were living in the wild it wouldnt last a day.
For me, life is life. But maybe you are right, killing your pet so that they dont hurt anymore, and so you dont have to see them and feel guilty, seems reasonable. They should do that with humans, too. I think my uncle should be put down due to his last stage lung cancer...
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On August 01 2010 11:05 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 10:47 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:49 lilsusie wrote:
Aww.. as a 9 month old puppy, not being able to run around and do mischievous puppy things is not the way she should be living. Even after surgeries and replacements, a dog wouldn't be the same =/
that's exactly the issue with all of you monsters. Oh my toy wouldnt be the same, time for a new one. ... A dog wouldn't be the same as in he wouldn't be able to run around freely and with the confidence that a dog should have. You apparently know nothing of animal psychology and how dogs work. You cannot compare a human and a dog, the way we work is different. You cannot put a dog in a wheelchair all his life; you cannot keep a dog to his bed forever either. A dog needs to be free to run, dig, jump, scratch - all with their legs. You, sir, are the monster if you wish to keep your dog around while its in pain. It's not about the "omg I can't take care of a sick dog" but rather what is best for the dog. I suppose then one should just let the dog that is in pain out into the wild and have him get killed "naturally"? How is that any better than allowing him to die peacefully in the safety of a vet clinic?
Isn't the fact that we humans try to make an art out of the breeding of animals and our own inane stubbornness for purity of breeds the reason why there are such a high number of these genetically bottlenecked freaks that suffer from diseases that they surely would not be so easily susceptible to if they were left to breed naturally? Regardless of the ethical questions of whether killing an animal for such health problems is right or wrong, the fact is that the very reason that such a large number of these animals even exist falls right into our hands. We are guilty for their pains.
On August 01 2010 11:04 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 11:02 koreasilver wrote:On August 01 2010 10:53 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 10:48 MamiyaOtaru wrote:OP I'm sorry to hear it. I'm almost glad I was spared this pain with our 17 year old dog when she was dognapped and died while escaping (my first blog post here I think) On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X What a horrible post. Dogs live to run. If a dog is going to be in pain every day for the rest of its life, and unable to do what it was bred to do, what it longs to do, it is a selfish cruelty to keep it around. You would be the asshole for making it suffer to make yourself feel better Are you insane? Keep it around? I'm not keeping it around, i'm just not killing it. I don't have a God complex and i don't think i have the right to decide who dies and who lives. Wait, first you accuse others of being 'monsters' that treat the animals as mere toys and discard these said 'toys' when they are inconvenient to take care of, then you later say that you wouldn't keep these fatally disabled animals around either and you are vindicated - because you didn't kill them! But you are still detaching any responsibility over such animals precisely for the same reasons - because they are inconvenient. you misunderstood my post.
Then explain.
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If that's the way we're going to think of it, then all domesticated animals shouldn't exist, for it is not natural.
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It will be okay Mr. OP.
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And I do not really think they should. The specialized breeding systems for dogs and cats are much more acutely destructive than the methods that were used for cows though, for example. Cows were at the very least bred for physical rigour and healthiness was considered to be a very important asset for the animals. When it comes to cats and dogs a great deal of the whole thing is about some insanely inane physical characteristics and hilariously obtuse and arbitrary standards of beauty, and to attain and adhere to these standards of beauty the animals are bred in destructive methods quite often. And so we have created a myriad of specimens that are completely useless at survival and are at the ultimate mercy of the human owner to be alive. It is a pitiful existence.
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my dog suddenly got really bloated and fat a year or so ago, and the vet said she had cancer and it was destroying the tissue in her tummy and she needed to be put down :C
worst part was, only my ma took her up to the vet practice and he told her that information then, and she decided to put the dog down without letting us say goodbye or anything. felt so angry about that, like my dog got snatched away from me
ive gotten another dog who is also a lab. great dogs, im sorry for your loss :C take care
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On August 01 2010 10:53 Sfydjklm wrote:
Are you insane? Keep it around? I'm not keeping it around, i'm just not killing it. I don't have a God complex and i don't think i have the right to decide who dies and who lives.
Hi. I've had to put down several animals in my adolescence because my mother was soft-hearted and couldn't bear to. As it happens, so am I, but there is a breaking point, and it has nothing to do with inconvenience.
Spoiler'd because it's a little gross and sad. My dying cat story.
+ Show Spoiler +After over $2,000 in vet bills, my 18 year-old cat Rusty had a growing cancer in his stomach. It was to the point that it was the size of your fist, and he would regularly howl in pain (5-6 times per day, for about 10 minute stretches). In addition, he was incontinent and had lost control of his bowels... we had to clean feces out of carpet and off tile several times daily, all while Rusty was getting thinner and sicker-looking, despite force-fed food the vet prescibed. We were giving him several kinds of medication, but his condition kept getting worse, and he always seemed to hate the medicine and even eating in general.
When I looked into that cat's eyes (I was about 14 at the time) I only saw pain and shame. He barely even responded to affection anymore at that point and had lost every ounce of dignity he had. It might be my child imagination, but it seemed like he stopped making eye contact toward the end... and yet still my mother loved him too much to put him down.
Sure, we could have let him live out his pain and shame for maybe a few months... maybe he'd make it a year before natural causes took him, but he was utterly miserable, anyone who looked at him could tell you. As his best friend, I made the choice to have him euthanized, and I held him until his last breath, looking more peaceful than I had seen him in years. And yes, I cried for days.
An animal cannot tell you it doesn't want to live anymore, so yes we are burdened with playing God with our pets. As far as cruelty goes... There's no question in my mind that it would have been FAR more cruel to let Rusty keep living.
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That said, I'm very sorry for your (soon to be) loss, Chrispy. It sounds like your puppy would only continue to be miserable and in pain if you let her live... I can't imagine having to make that choice for such a young pet. I agree with Susie though, spoil the heck out of her before Tuesday!
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On August 01 2010 11:07 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 11:05 lilsusie wrote:On August 01 2010 10:47 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:49 lilsusie wrote:
Aww.. as a 9 month old puppy, not being able to run around and do mischievous puppy things is not the way she should be living. Even after surgeries and replacements, a dog wouldn't be the same =/
that's exactly the issue with all of you monsters. Oh my toy wouldnt be the same, time for a new one. ... A dog wouldn't be the same as in he wouldn't be able to run around freely and with the confidence that a dog should have. You apparently know nothing of animal psychology and how dogs work. You cannot compare a human and a dog, the way we work is different. You cannot put a dog in a wheelchair all his life; you cannot keep a dog to his bed forever either. A dog needs to be free to run, dig, jump, scratch - all with their legs. You, sir, are the monster if you wish to keep your dog around while its in pain. It's not about the "omg I can't take care of a sick dog" but rather what is best for the dog. I suppose then one should just let the dog that is in pain out into the wild and have him get killed "naturally"? How is that any better than allowing him to die peacefully in the safety of a vet clinic? I covered all those points you made already. And there are plenty of dogs who run around with those wheel carts attached and have decent life.
Did you even read the opening post? This dog doesn't have a leg problem.
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I'm surprised someone would think putting the dog down is selfish when in my experience it's usually the exact opposite.. The selfish ones are the ones that try to prolong the animals life despite its suffering. It's sad in your case because your dog is so young but as long as you took care of him and treated him well when you could, there's nothing else to be done really.
You can tell when a dog is no longer itself, be it old age or whatever. I've had two dogs I had to put to sleep. One went blind and would no longer move, just lay there. The second which I lost last December was I think showing signs of hip displasyia. She had a huge fatty deposit on her side too which made it worse I think. Her legs would give out, but she wouldn't even complain, just fall over and lie there panting. She almost looked embarrassed it happened but it was so sad. It came about so fast too, she was super energetic her whole life then in about a few weeks her legs went out, she had breathing problems etc.
It's just natural, why put them through the weeks/months remaining of a miserable life when they are used to so much more. I think it's the selfless last act of a good owner
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On August 01 2010 10:45 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 10:07 IntoTheWow wrote:On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X Dog's don't have the psyche of a human. Dogs try to hide away all the pain because if they cry it makes them look weak (from their instinct point of view). My dog came home after a long surgery, I carried her home with the just made stitches and she wanted to get up continuously for 3 hours, even though she was drugged up from the surgery and weakened because she didn't ate much for it. When I asked the vet he told me about that. So even though the love may still have it's happy moments, it's still very hard say "he will live a normal life" in a wheelchair. A human has an intelligence to objectively analyze things and put other things aside. Animals don't work the same as we do, so we can't really put ourselves in their place. Deciding to put a pet down is a very hard decision, and it's not about "not wanting to have a crippled pet in home" but to save them from the pain. All that said, I don't know the details for this case, but it sounds pretty bad. I would talk to a vet to know how good / bad the situation could get. You notice how you contradict yourself? First you describe how an animal feels and then you say we cant put ourself in their place. Putting pet down is a decision you have no right to make. It is in no way in more sane then having sex with an animal. It's just something commonly accepted because it's more convenient than looking after a sick pet. Blaah, sick pets arent fun!
Do you really think that the main reason people put down their pets is because they don't want to look after a sick pet that can't play catch and not because they want to end its suffering?
Sick pets aren't hard to look after. When my pets get sick they mostly sit in a dark closet or bathroom and cry all day. How is it hard to look after a pet that can't walk? They are just going to sit in 1 spot and atrophy for the next 15 years. Of course whenever you walk past them they will be wimpering for you to help them but you could always explain to them "I can't do anything for you so suck it up." I'm not sure if they will understand that though.
Humans choose to end their lives all the time. I guess this is a luxury only for humans because animals don't comprehend suicide like we do?
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On August 01 2010 11:09 MadJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:10 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
yeah because his dog would totally be able to live in a wheelchair, if there even was such a thing for dogs. The dog can barely walk, its life is pretty much hell. If it were living in the wild it wouldnt last a day. For me, life is life. But maybe you are right, killing your pet so that they dont hurt anymore, and so you dont have to see them and feel guilty, seems reasonable. They should do that with humans, too. I think my uncle should be put down due to his last stage lung cancer...
if your uncle was a dog id agree.
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that sucks so much really sorry to hear
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My dog is sleeping in my bed behind me and it just kills me to think of the day when I have to put her down
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On August 01 2010 11:09 MadJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:10 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
yeah because his dog would totally be able to live in a wheelchair, if there even was such a thing for dogs. The dog can barely walk, its life is pretty much hell. If it were living in the wild it wouldnt last a day. For me, life is life. But maybe you are right, killing your pet so that they dont hurt anymore, and so you dont have to see them and feel guilty, seems reasonable. They should do that with humans, too. I think my uncle should be put down due to his last stage lung cancer...
I'm detecting an ever-so-slight hint of sarcasm, which suggests that you're strongly against putting pets down in any circumstance.
Hmmmm, yeah... are you familiar with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case
Also, this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_(euthanasia_group)
If you're absolutely opposed to the result of the Schiavo case and the purpose of Dignitas, then I really don't have anything to say to you.
But, if you can actually see both sides of this issue, then just consider that dogs can't exactly decide this stuff for themselves, and sometimes humans have to. Sure, it's a fine line that separates a god complex from a responsible decision. Just don't treat it like it's so black and white, where you're on the morally righteous side and everyone else is awful and heartless.
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Been through that, but not with a young puppy. You could look for a home for her instead. Someone might be willing to take her in, anyways. Had 2 dogs with dysplacia, they lived a long time. One ended up needing Rimadel and taking daily glucosamine, but that can help for them as well.
Really what I would like to suggest however is get a dog from the pound. Mixed breeds rarely have the problems that a pure breed does.
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are you the guy who makes dubstep on youtube?
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On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it.
The difference is a dog can't just find another hobby. A dog can't load up a DVD of Stargate SG-1 when it's bored. A dog can't wheel itself into the workshop to make a new cupboard for the house. A dog can't sit in front of a computer playing StarCraft, or working on a book about the hardships and triumphs in their life.
A dog finds enjoyment in running, in being physically active, in hunting small animals and cars, in walking and running with its family. If you've ever had a dog, you'll know how INSANE they get when you bring out the leash or ask if they want to go walkies.
To the OP: I'm terribly sorry you have to go through this. My first dog, a beautiful Collie, was an escape artist, often sneaking away to visit other dogs or go exploring. Finally disaster struck and he was hit by a car, came home limping. The vet said the internal damage was so severe that the best thing to do was to put him to sleep. He was nine years old, physically active, and affectionate.
That was a pretty shitty fucking day.
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Oh man that sucks
T_T
such an early age...
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On August 01 2010 09:29 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 09:15 BlackJack wrote:On August 01 2010 08:58 Laerties wrote:
What the hell? You don't see ppl in wheelchairs getting put down..... why the hell would you put down your dog because it has hip problems? Seems like the easy way out to me. Instead of working with your dog to give it the best life possible your going to kill her. Thats how I interpreted it. Human's can still do 90% of their daily activities in a wheelchair, a dog can't do anything without its legs. A better example would be comparing it to someone paralyzed from the neck down. This is the humane thing to do. A dog can still love you even if it cant run. It's like oh i cant play fetch with it, lets kill it. You're an asshole.:X
You people are either assholes or a bad readers. OP is upset about losing his dog already and you say this about him? Go ahead and disagree with his decision. But don't belittle it by saying that he's selfish or heartless.
The point is not that the dog can't play with him. The point is that the dog is in pain. That is why it is being put down.
This is nothing like a guy in a wheelchair. This is basically like a guy who takes no pleasure from life, who is in constant pain, and has no hope of getting cured.
Yes, the dog can't tell you that it wants to die. But it can't tell you it wants to live either. We make the best decisons we can given the circumstances.
My parents and I had to put our old dog down. Yes, he could live, but like this dog, he couldn't walk. His hips were completely gone. He could barely eat either because his teeth were infected too. Even if he had survived the tooth extraction, he would still have been unable to walk.
All he liked to do was to walk and eat, and one day he couldn't do either. It was terrifying to come out of the house and find that he had collapsed and had been lying in the mud and rain for hours.
Should we kill an animal that takes no more pleasure from life? Maybe you don't think so. But that doesn't alter the fact that this was a difficult decision.
Now you can say that you disagree with the decision OP is making, and with the decision my family and I made. But don't tell us that we put our dogs down because we are somehow selfish, or that we did it because he didn't fit our definition of what a dog was supposed to be, or because it was too much trouble.
You can say that you think the dog would prefer to live. But don't you belittle what is a very painful, very difficult decision.
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This is a painful decision, but it is the right one.
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T_T I'm glad my parents didn't put me down when I turned out to be a complete retard. Sorry for your loss though.
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I'm so sorry that you have to put your dog down =( Your decision is tough but the right choice. We also have a dog named Maggie that's about to turn 1 and I just cant imagine having to put her down.
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I've seen several labs get put down from something like this..... I love labs- have a mix myself. It's always depressing to see them be put down.
I'm sorry about your dog man.
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On August 02 2010 07:42 Bub wrote:
I've seen several labs get put down from something like this..... I love labs- have a mix myself. It's always depressing to see them be put down.
I'm sorry about your dog man.
Yeah, isn't hip displaysia genetic in purebred labs? I have a golden retriever, and she had some bad hip displaysia. She took some meds or vitamins or something when she was younger, and now it doesn't hurt her as much, I think. She still doesn't like stairs, though.
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Sfydjklm be quiet. This little dog is in excruciating pain and you think ending its pain by the only realistic means possible is having a god complex? minor cases of hip dysplasia are terribly pain, this puppy has a major case. this puppy won't ever be able to enjoy running around outside or playing with its family. how fair is that? 10-15 years of horrible pain for something you love because you don't want to have a god complex?
you sound like a insanely insensitive cold bastard.
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