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Why Achivements Fucking Suck

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jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 17 2010 02:26 GMT
#1
So I’m playing a ZvT on SoW, some dumb ass achievement caring about noob decides he wants to get his unbreakable achievement (50 kills one unit or building)

After I destroy his main and natural, he hides in bottom right corner, and fills the entire thing with cannons doesn’t even have a nexus. I had gone ultras so run ultras up the ramp with hydras behind, throw away 2 maxed armies like this and realize it’s not going to do anything. So I have to put down spire and go BL.

Once I get BL this dumb bitch gets mad me for killing him before he can get his achievement, this is the first time he mentions it. And he says either run lings till he gets the achievement or kill every building, naturally I don’t want to help him after he wasted like 15 minutes of my time so I spend another 5 minutes finding and killing everything.

FUCK ACHIVEMENTS STAY ON THE XBOX WHERE YOU BELONG

/rant


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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 17 2010 02:28 GMT
#2
lol thats awesome he mustve been so mad that u didnt let him get it

y r u complaining?

i think its great he was trying to do this, it made an ordinary 1v1 much more hilarious
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 17 2010 02:29 GMT
#3
I think Achievements on the XBox were also pretty lame.

I could care less if I was a Terran macro master. I already knew my macro was good enough for that.

I can sort of agree with you, though I would have to say that I'm thinking achievement whores are pretty rare...
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 17 2010 02:30 GMT
#4
I don't like them either, but damn how did you think running up a ramp vs cannons would work out? Just cast dark swarmPeople have been doing this shit forever anyways, even before achievements.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
July 17 2010 02:30 GMT
#5
Don't let other people's idiocy ruin your day. If you get frustrated every time someone does something annoying then you'll spent your entire life pissed off. In this case you won the game, and he left pissed, so just smile and play another game.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
July 17 2010 02:30 GMT
#6
Wait until Blizzard add the achievement of winning in X minutes.

Then noobs will cheese just to achieve that.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 17 2010 02:32 GMT
#7
On July 17 2010 11:30 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wait until Blizzard add the achievement of winning in X minutes.

Then noobs will cheese just to achieve that.

Funnier if it's about say 5-10.

Step 1: Cheese
Step 2: Beg your opponent to stay in the game.
Jaedong
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 17 2010 02:32 GMT
#8
On July 17 2010 11:30 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wait until Blizzard add the achievement of winning in X minutes.

Then noobs will cheese just to achieve that.


Or even worse, "Play a 1.5 hour game."
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 17 2010 02:32 GMT
#9
On July 17 2010 11:30 Megalisk wrote:
I don't like them either, but damn how did you think running up a ramp vs cannons would work out? Just cast dark swarmPeople have been doing this shit forever anyways, even before achievements.


Well i already had the ultras and hyrdas so i just did it, they killed a lot of cannons (ultras do so much damage vs buildings) Then i just remaxed and did it again thinking it would take 2 or 3 tims, but apprently he had planned this the whole way and stockpiled a butt fuck of minerals and just rebuilt
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jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 17 2010 02:33 GMT
#10
On July 17 2010 11:32 Bibbit wrote:
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On July 17 2010 11:30 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wait until Blizzard add the achievement of winning in X minutes.

Then noobs will cheese just to achieve that.


Or even worse, "Play a 1.5 hour game."


If they do that I will cry
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 17 2010 02:34 GMT
#11
On July 17 2010 11:32 jamesr12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 11:30 Megalisk wrote:
I don't like them either, but damn how did you think running up a ramp vs cannons would work out? Just cast dark swarmPeople have been doing this shit forever anyways, even before achievements.


Well i already had the ultras and hyrdas so i just did it, they killed a lot of cannons (ultras do so much damage vs buildings) Then i just remaxed and did it again thinking it would take 2 or 3 tims, but apprently he had planned this the whole way and stockpiled a butt fuck of minerals and just rebuilt


A "butt fuck" of minerals?

Fuuuuckk......I could only imagine that!
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Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
July 17 2010 02:36 GMT
#12
Achievments are the most useless feature the game can have, the gameplay itself should provide you with sense of achievement, not some shiny badge popping up once in a while informing you that you won X games vs completely random opponents.

I never understood that point of them. Who cares about them? Is it supposed to be like a proof that you did something "crazy" in-game in case nobody believes you?
-dude,I totally managed to build a factory in first 240 seconds of a game,
-That is bullshit, i dont believe you.
-Oh yea well check my profile, i have that achievement at the 2nd slot of my showcase.
-Aw dude, sorry for disbelieving you, you are such a baller.
-*feelin' good*
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
July 17 2010 02:37 GMT
#13
I hate achievements there needs to be an option to turn them off, I don't want them spamming my screen!
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Gogleion
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States534 Posts
July 17 2010 02:40 GMT
#14
Dear Blizzard,

Chat channels > Achievements. The game will be released in 11 days. Use your time wisely.


Regards,
Gogleion
EffOrt. That is all.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
July 17 2010 02:41 GMT
#15
Lol

Achievements are a great idea. Psychologically they do a good job of pointing newbs (most likely to be achievement hunters) in the right direction. Also, that's a really funny rage story.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 17 2010 02:45 GMT
#16
Too many elitists around here.

Achievements are fine. They add something for people to go towards if you aren't a hardcore competitive gamer. Hell, somewhere around here people have even mentioned that there's a way to turn them off. If this is true (and it probably will happen eventually if it isn't), you have zero reason to complain because they don't hurt you in any way.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
July 17 2010 02:45 GMT
#17
ZvP you mean? Anyways, the long term achievements are fun to get. Its something to look forward to.
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 02:54:31
July 17 2010 02:53 GMT
#18
I've developed this (probably bad) habit of not really reading the chat, or like abandoning and ignoring it mid sentence if it sounds dumb. From years of reading bad forum/IM/chats/trolls. Thats why I dont really stress out over dumb things people say hehe . After that its just a plain old guy that sticks around the game too long (happens even before achievements)
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
July 17 2010 02:54 GMT
#19
On July 17 2010 11:41 Sabu113 wrote:
Lol

Achievements are a great idea. Psychologically they do a good job of pointing newbs (most likely to be achievement hunters) in the right direction. Also, that's a really funny rage story.


Kind of. In some cases its a bit ridiculous - I'm fairly certain the Fast Expand achievement requires you to do completely retarded builds like a 10hatch though. I couldn't get a 14hatch to finish on time.
Like a G6
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#20
dude this is fucking amazing, it's everything that makes achievements awesome!

If your ticked off by it simply alt tab and let the kid eagerly await you to suicide 100 lings into his cannons... go make tea or something and laugh to yourself as some lowlife is sitting there praying he gets his achievement.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 03:06:23
July 17 2010 03:05 GMT
#21
Calm down.

Achievements are probably going to suck for MP most of the time, but they'll probably be a blast for single player.

Then noobs will cheese just to achieve that.


Like they weren't cheesing before?

What will be retarded is if they have an achievement like "win a 2 hour game". Ugh.
Too Busy to Troll!
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
July 17 2010 03:12 GMT
#22
Can't he get those achievements in custom games against the computer anyway? Why would you waste someone's time in a ladder game =/
Don't hate the player, hate the game
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
July 17 2010 03:16 GMT
#23
I think achievements are kind of fun. Maybe you should get better at SC2 instead?
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 03:21:10
July 17 2010 03:20 GMT
#24
The OP doesn't hate achievements because they're hard to get or because he loses to people trying to get them. He hates them because noobs waste his time in ladder games by trying to achieve ridiculous achievements instead of playing a normal, semi-challenging ladder game.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
July 17 2010 03:24 GMT
#25
On July 17 2010 12:20 The_Pacifist wrote:
The OP doesn't hate achievements because they're hard to get or because he loses to people trying to get them. He hates them because noobs waste his time in ladder games by trying to achieve ridiculous achievements instead of playing a normal, semi-challenging ladder game.

Same concept as playing any noobs at all. Once you get better yourself, you won't have to deal with them. If you aren't ranked high enough to not run in to noobs all the time, then look at yourself a little more closely
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
July 17 2010 03:25 GMT
#26
I dunno, i kinda like achievements, but i won't go out of my way to ruin someone else's game jsut so i can get the achievement. =\
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GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 17 2010 03:27 GMT
#27
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On July 17 2010 11:54 kzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 11:41 Sabu113 wrote:
Lol

Achievements are a great idea. Psychologically they do a good job of pointing newbs (most likely to be achievement hunters) in the right direction. Also, that's a really funny rage story.


Kind of. In some cases its a bit ridiculous - I'm fairly certain the Fast Expand achievement requires you to do completely retarded builds like a 10hatch though. I couldn't get a 14hatch to finish on time.


I did a 13 hatch on Metalopolis today and received this achievement.
ZvP on Metalopolis I spawn as Z at 4, he spawns at 2 as P.

When my ovie go to his base, I saw that his workers had not moved from the original positions around the nexus. Figuring he was afk or had dropped but had not yet left the game, I just calmly 13 hatch, 12 pooled and sent 1 ling to kill him while working on my zerg mechanics (spreading creep, putting down creep tumours)
-Will upload the replay and screenshot of this as soon as I finish watching SKT vs CJ Day 1
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
July 17 2010 03:36 GMT
#28
You know what I fucking HATE about achievements? Whenever YOU or your FRIEND or your DOG gets one. Blizzard doesn't just put alittle popup in the bottom right of your screen that lets you know you accomplished something. No. IT HAS TO BLOCK THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLAYING FIELD DURING THE MIDDLE OF A MICRO BATTLE. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
So wait? I'm bad? =(
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
July 17 2010 03:39 GMT
#29
lol, this is a win on your part. you should be happy you stopped a douchy achievement hunter from getting an achievement that he worked so hard to force you to fulfill. be proud!
How's the weather down there?
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
July 17 2010 04:06 GMT
#30
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr11b

The idea I get from this is that Wizards develop their game to a wide variety of audience. People with different interests, resources, different profiles. That column is from quite some time ago, about some 3-4 months ago Rosewater did a new version of this where he added a new profile Vorthos, and I think there is even another one I don't remember, but it does not matter for now.

The three big mtg profiles are:
Timmy: He plays for fun, he plays to do awesome stuff. Getting his 20/20 flying, indestructible, unbockable, with shroud and smashing to the face ^^
Jhonny:He plays to show how creative he is, he does not want to win, he wants to win with style. Cascade Swans from the last block (I loved that deck).
Spike: He plays to win, that's it. Fairies.
*Vorthos: He likes the art in the cards, he likes the story, he collects the cards. Buying books, collecting cards

Now, in terms StarCraft:
Timmy: He likes getting his motherships, with his 3/3/3 carriers and a-moving, playing to unlock those achievements ^^
Johnny: Those crazy builds, Mass Queen ZvZ, Collo - Phoenix , and Still manage to create stable play.
Spike: Idra, playing, refining, improving.
Vorthos: There was a thread a little while ago about the lore of SC2, where it is, what will we see. I read about the Xel Naga reproduction, about Duran, I did not know Anything about that. And there's people who like this, think, and well enjoy it ^^

I sense a lot of elitism in TL. I know this site was formed as a forum for competitive StarCraft gamers, but now Team Liquid is so much more, with such a variety of people we have our Timmys, Johnys, Spikes, Vorthoss.

This went a little off of what I wanted to say, but oh well ^^
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 04:38:45
July 17 2010 04:37 GMT
#31
lol @ op, like it's hard to kill just cannons.

btw

On July 17 2010 11:26 jamesr12 wrote:
So I’m playing a ZvT on SoW, some dumb ass achievement caring about noob decides he wants to get his unbreakable achievement (50 kills one unit or building)

After I destroy his main and natural, he hides in bottom right corner, and fills the entire thing with cannons doesn’t even have a nexus. I had gone ultras so run ultras up the ramp with hydras behind, throw away 2 maxed armies like this and realize it’s not going to do anything. So I have to put down spire and go BL.

Once I get BL this dumb bitch gets mad me for killing him before he can get his achievement, this is the first time he mentions it. And he says either run lings till he gets the achievement or kill every building, naturally I don’t want to help him after he wasted like 15 minutes of my time so I spend another 5 minutes finding and killing everything.

FUCK ACHIVEMENTS STAY ON THE XBOX WHERE YOU BELONG

/rant

Zerg vs Toss
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
July 17 2010 04:44 GMT
#32
it's funny cuz in 10 days all the people who actually do care about achievements will have to start all over again.
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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 07:51:06
July 17 2010 07:47 GMT
#33
On July 17 2010 11:54 kzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 11:41 Sabu113 wrote:
Lol

Achievements are a great idea. Psychologically they do a good job of pointing newbs (most likely to be achievement hunters) in the right direction. Also, that's a really funny rage story.


Kind of. In some cases its a bit ridiculous - I'm fairly certain the Fast Expand achievement requires you to do completely retarded builds like a 10hatch though. I couldn't get a 14hatch to finish on time.

The fast expand achievement is a melee achievement and not a league achievement so you can do it against easy AI. Do something like 6 hatch :p

I think that those achievements like getting 20 zerglings up before 5 minutes etc are there to make newbs develop how to build armies early which is a problem noobs have in most games. And with noobs I don't mean the average bronze player, they usually can play decently being able to execute basic rushes and such but the newbs whojust majorly suck since they have no clue at all about RTS.
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