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KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-23 22:14:29
June 23 2010 22:13 GMT
#1
So...I'm a Geometry teacher at a NYC high school. Last week my kids took the NYS Standardized Geometry Regents Exam and 25% of them passed...

I was very depressed about that until today.

Because the physics teacher told me that her kids' passing rate is 0%.


THAT FUCKING MADE MY DAY.

micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-23 22:16:28
June 23 2010 22:14 GMT
#2
Mine was good.... for the first time in 3 years. Definitely worth discussing but probably better to pm than just chat in a blog if you want.

25% passing is not that bad (from your perspective) if you are placed in a difficult teaching situation where kids are unprepared, you are unsupported, etc... although I don't know much about the new math curriculum.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 23 2010 22:16 GMT
#3
I am sure if you allow them to google the answers they will be smarter.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-23 22:24:27
June 23 2010 22:23 GMT
#4
Btw does she know they announced today that question 33 is being given back to all students? They forgot to put units in the answers so it's a freebie :3

There was a couple of really tough questions on the physics regents ._.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32073 Posts
June 23 2010 22:25 GMT
#5
I still can't believe some people think merit based pay will somehow improve this situation....

Who the hell is going to want to take a job where only %25 of your kids pass the test
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
June 23 2010 22:37 GMT
#6
regents exams are easy as pie. all m scores were 97 or higher, with 2 100's. /end brag

ah, good for you, op, it's a good feeling lol. but dont be thinking that it's your fault only 25% passed. in my experience in middle/high school and standardized tests, the teacher does and can help a student pass when he or she would otherwise fail, but most of a time i feel like the burden falls on the student more. ive had really good teachers who taught the material well and made the classes interesting, but some classmates are just stubborn. they even have the capability to do well, but dont want to.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
June 23 2010 22:41 GMT
#7
On June 24 2010 07:37 ieatkids5 wrote:
regents exams are easy as pie. all m scores were 97 or higher, with 2 100's. /end brag

They are regular level. If you are someone who is capable to take and do reasonably well in AP classes for example then the Regents exams SHOULD be easy. It's difficult to do very well (>95 let's say) in all subject areas though... like I got 100 on Sequential 1, 2, and 3, and did well on physics (not 100 can't remember number), but only got like a b+ on a couple of ones in social studies/English...
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 23 2010 23:06 GMT
#8
What's regents, that test sometime after the AP exams to make sure you are still going to school?

Jokes aside, where in NYC are you? But yeah, from what I can remember, physics regents was the one regent that killed the most in high school. I'd like to say that a teacher definitely matters though, and even 25% is pretty good if you are working with regular students (or not Queens). No idea of how the math curriculum changed from when I was in HS, but I recall people I know in my school had the most difficulty with that particular regents math wise, with the amount of proofs and random things you need to know in order to solve geometry problems.
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
June 23 2010 23:21 GMT
#9
Where the students black and poor? It's been shown that low income students from underprivileged families do bad in school
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
June 23 2010 23:50 GMT
#10
On June 24 2010 08:21 Rev0lution wrote:
Where the students black and poor? It's been shown that low income students from underprivileged families do bad in school


just because you have some minority kids doesn't mean that they can't do good... as a teacher, it feels good helping out kids that the world has low expectations for do well.

think you meant to say 'were', not 'where' btw
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
June 24 2010 00:04 GMT
#11
On June 24 2010 08:50 Navi wrote:
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On June 24 2010 08:21 Rev0lution wrote:
Where the students black and poor? It's been shown that low income students from underprivileged families do bad in school


just because you have some minority kids doesn't mean that they can't do good... as a teacher, it feels good helping out kids that the world has low expectations for do well.

think you meant to say 'were', not 'where' btw

One of my students who has had great difficulty all year despite working really really hard just barely passed but I'm soooooo happy for her.
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Ravloo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States145 Posts
June 24 2010 00:18 GMT
#12
Hi KH. I taught hs Math this past year too.

Congrats on your success! Keep up the great work homie, the world needs it.

And make sure you celebrate your well-deserved achievement
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natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
June 24 2010 00:36 GMT
#13
yea, it's pretty sad, cuz the regents are so ridiculously easy. kids are mad dumb these days
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
June 24 2010 00:44 GMT
#14
On June 24 2010 09:36 natturner wrote:
yea, it's pretty sad, cuz the regents are so ridiculously easy. kids are mad dumb these days

Are kids actually getting dumber? Is there evidence to support this claim?
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KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
June 24 2010 01:54 GMT
#15
On June 24 2010 07:25 Hawk wrote:
I still can't believe some people think merit based pay will somehow improve this situation....

Who the hell is going to want to take a job where only %25 of your kids pass the test


They're *trying* to figure out a way so that you measure the merit on the improvement - so that it's fair. IMHO there is no way to ensure fairness, and doing so will only promote teaching to the test.


On June 24 2010 08:06 Ecael wrote:
Jokes aside, where in NYC are you? But yeah, from what I can remember, physics regents was the one regent that killed the most in high school. I'd like to say that a teacher definitely matters though, and even 25% is pretty good if you are working with regular students (or not Queens). No idea of how the math curriculum changed from when I was in HS, but I recall people I know in my school had the most difficulty with that particular regents math wise, with the amount of proofs and random things you need to know in order to solve geometry problems.


I teach at Far Rockaway, in the old Far Rock high school building - District 27 in NYC.
And yes, Geometry is significantly more difficult than Integrated Algebra. Integrated Algebra has a retarded curve...basically if you get half of Part I(Multiple Choice) correct, and you can miss all of part II, III, and IV, you would still pass. (For reference sake, my school's algebra pass % is about 35%)

On June 24 2010 08:21 Rev0lution wrote:
Where the students black and poor? It's been shown that low income students from underprivileged families do bad in school

To answer your question, yes and yes. And yes, you are correct that statistically they are at a disadvantage.

Some of the are very smart and learn very quickly, just that they may not be academically inclined and may not learn the way you and I do.

On June 24 2010 09:04 micronesia wrote:
One of my students who has had great difficulty all year despite working really really hard just barely passed but I'm soooooo happy for her.


Yeah I have a few students like that too....except that they still came up short. It was agonizing grading their papers

On June 24 2010 09:18 Ravloo wrote:
Hi KH. I taught hs Math this past year too.

Congrats on your success! Keep up the great work homie, the world needs it.

And make sure you celebrate your well-deserved achievement

Thanks! Counting on what little success I have is what keeps me going...gonna go get drunk this weekend, then maybe attend TL NYC LAN#5

On June 24 2010 09:36 natturner wrote:
yea, it's pretty sad, cuz the regents are so ridiculously easy. kids are mad dumb these days

"Dumb" is probably the last word I would use to describe my students. You need to hear the story of some of my kids.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
June 24 2010 01:58 GMT
#16
God bless you for working at Far Rockaway... but yeah it definitely explains the struggle. Still I'd be really cautious about giving that specific info away so readily... I try to keep my online identify separate from my teaching one. ESPECIALLY prior to tenure :p
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KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 02:11:33
June 24 2010 02:10 GMT
#17
heh...thanks for your kind words...

i don't really have to worry about that... i'll just leave it at that without further explanation
drewcifer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States192 Posts
June 24 2010 03:54 GMT
#18
On June 24 2010 09:18 Ravloo wrote:
Hi KH. I taught hs Math this past year too.

Congrats on your success! Keep up the great work homie, the world needs it.

And make sure you celebrate your well-deserved achievement




Is this sarcasm? I have no idea what world you come from where 25% of the students actually learning something is something to be celebrated.

The incompetence of our education system is mind numbing. I remember going to school and hating every second of it including the sciences. Now I'm in college and am deeply fascinated with science and majoring in it as well. What gives? Did science change? or maybe it was just impossible to learn anything or become inspired in a setting like HS. My HS asked me to dropout to improve their statistics for attendance. I live in Queens, maybe someone can explain to me why education just gets shoved under the rug every single presidential election because I'm genuinely curious if there is any real logical reason.[/rant]
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 24 2010 06:16 GMT
#19
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 10:35:35
June 24 2010 10:34 GMT
#20
On June 24 2010 12:54 drewcifer wrote:
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On June 24 2010 09:18 Ravloo wrote:
Hi KH. I taught hs Math this past year too.

Congrats on your success! Keep up the great work homie, the world needs it.

And make sure you celebrate your well-deserved achievement

Is this sarcasm? I have no idea what world you come from where 25% of the students actually learning something is something to be celebrated.

It is when you are in the school in Queens with the worst track record.

Also I don't think 'learning something' and 'passing the regents are synonymous.

On June 24 2010 15:16 krndandaman wrote:
wait wtf where do you teach?

2 years ago i went to rank 400 high school and it was 100% pass rate for my class as well as 25% of the kids getting a perfect score. (for Math A which is similar to geometry)

it was a normal honors math class

I believe Math A is an easier test overall. Also, why are you comparing your rank 400 school to this one? An honors class.... no less.
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