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It's been a year since I touched math and my forgetfulness of even the most basic calc knowledge is beyond frustrating.
I'm re-learning most of it all over again, and so far I've been stuck on 3 questions for my assignment:
Find the second derivative of each of the following functions:
a. f(x) = e^(e^x)
b. g(y) = y^y for y > 0
c. h(t) = ln[t^(1/2)] for t > 0
My fail solutions so far:
a. f'(x)=e^(e^x) * (e^x) f’’(x)=e^(e^x) * e^x * e^x + e^(e^x) * e^x = can I simply further?
b. g(y)= y^y= e ^ (y * ln(y)) g’(y)= e ^ (y * ln(y)) * d/dx(y * ln(y)) = e ^ (y * ln(y)) * (ln(y) + y/y)) = e ^ (y * ln(y)) * (ln(y) + 1) = ? (How do I simply and get the second derivative?)
c. Not a clue. If someone could correct my answers and point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated, I’ve been working at this for 6 hours straight already and I’m going crazy:S
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i could be wrong, because its been a while, but i'm pretty sure homework blogs are generally discouraged.
when i enter into TI-89 a) infinity b) y^(y-1) * (y * (ln(y))^2 + 2*y*ln(y) + y + 1) c) 0
EDIT: yeah, Commandment #5
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a) Apart from messing with indices a little that seems to be as good as you'll get.
b) Well you already know what the ( +1) bit looks like, just use the product rule on the other part. It's just like (a) Alternatively you can use the product rule with (e^ylny) and (lny+1). i.e. not expanding the bracket.
c) Just use the chain rule like you have been doing before.
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On June 07 2010 07:55 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:i could be wrong, because its been a while, but i'm pretty sure homework blogs are generally discouraged. when i enter into TI-89 a) infinity b) y^(y-1) * (y * (ln(y))^2 + 2*y*ln(y) + y + 1) c) 0 EDIT: yeah, Commandment #5
Yeah homework threads are frowned upon, but a good solution to that is to check out the Teamliquid Manpower thread, there are plenty of people you can PM for calculus help (I'm one of them ).
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You already know everything you need, you just don't realize it! This won't be as hard as you're making it out to be ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
a) You can 'simplify' further by adding the exponents. a^b * a^c = a^(b+c) , if you like how that looks better. You have the right answer, though.
b) At the end you just have g' = g * (ln(y) + 1). You know the product rule, you know the derivative of g, so just go for it.
c) I see you know the derivative of ln(_) from part b). And I see you know the chain rule from part a). Just combine the two. Let t^(1/2) = u.
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Do as ninjafetus says, if you're completely lost, I did c for you, check in spoilers if you cannot figure it out: + Show Spoiler +c) h'(t)=-1/2*t^(-1/2)*1/(t^1/2)=-1/2*1/t, because of chainrule h''(t)= 1/4*1/t^2 This is just a simple use of the fact that (f(g(x)))'=g'(x)f'(g(x)) aka the chainrule
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Nytefish is correct in his clues.
I think most homework threads are frowned on but somewhat tolerated if its not so blatant that you're not willing to work on it. I think that showing your work and getting some people to point you in the right direction like above at least imo is ok.
Yeah I would shy away from actually doing the problem like Papvin does above, albeit in spoilers... its not helping the person learn what they need to.
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On June 07 2010 08:07 Papvin wrote:Do as ninjafetus says, if you're completely lost, I did c for you, check in spoilers if you cannot figure it out: + Show Spoiler +c) h'(t)=-1/2*t^(-1/2)*1/(t^1/2)=-1/2*1/t, because of chainrule h''(t)= 1/4*1/t^2 This is just a simple use of the fact that (f(g(x)))'=g'(x)f'(g(x)) aka the chainrule
+ Show Spoiler +btw there's an extra minus sign in this
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YES!
Thank you guys.
All of you, are my personal Jesus Christs, true saviors.
<3 TL. I'll make sure to give back to the community in one form or another
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