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Is E-Sports Regulation Wrong?

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[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 15:46:38
June 03 2010 06:55 GMT
#1


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professorjoak
Profile Joined July 2008
318 Posts
June 03 2010 07:01 GMT
#2
Bad analogy. Speedo isn't Blizzard, they fill the role of Razer or Logitech as the manufacturers of a tool and not the contest itself. There's an International Olympic Committee that regulates the swim meets and yes they do put down a lot of regulations such as banning Speedo from future contests, for instance.
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[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
June 03 2010 07:08 GMT
#3
On June 03 2010 16:01 professorjoak wrote:
Bad analogy. Speedo isn't Blizzard, they fill the role of Razer or Logitech as the manufacturers of a tool and not the contest itself. There's an International Olympic Committee that regulates the swim meets and yes they do put down a lot of regulations such as banning Speedo from future contests, for instance.


I don't agree. What people enjoy watching is a well balanced RTS game. Blizzard didn't invent the concept of an RTS game, so they didn't invent the competition itself. Starcraft is simply a tool that enables competitors to compete. There are other, less balanced RTS games that people could compete with instead of using Starcraft. Similarly, while most people prefer to use a high quality mouse, they could use a worse mouse as a replacement. Your copy of Starcraft and your mouse are both tools.

Now I'm not saying there shouldn't be a regulatory body for e-sports. All sports have a regulatory body and they serve an important role. I just don't think it is the tool makers that should be doing the regulation.
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hi19hi19
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 07:12:44
June 03 2010 07:12 GMT
#4
One difference here is Blizzard's involvement in e-sports: the company can shape their game by patching and making expansions.
Speedo can't edit a competitor's suit if they come up with a new idea a few minutes before the race starts.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
June 03 2010 07:41 GMT
#5
This analogy is completely wrong. SC is not the suit. Blizzard is not Speedo. SC is swimming. The sport itself. "Sport" would be RTS, or maybe "racing" would be. Whoever invented swimming didn't invent racing, he just made another way for people to race. So he (or they) would be Blizzard. Speedo/TYR etc. would be the mouse companies, the keyboard companies, that allow gamers to compete at their "sport" (SC) like a better suit would.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 07:47:01
June 03 2010 07:45 GMT
#6
The analogy is bad. Thanks to the great performances during the olympics, Speedo is gonna sell a shitload of swim suits. So they got their part of the profit.

What I don't understand is that every progamer bought the game, and all the SC licenses used by Kepsa are legit. Blizzard is just a greedy whore.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 03 2010 07:50 GMT
#7
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
June 03 2010 07:54 GMT
#8
On June 03 2010 16:50 krndandaman wrote:
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On June 03 2010 16:41 seppolevne wrote:
This analogy is completely wrong. SC is not the suit. Blizzard is not Speedo. SC is swimming. The sport itself. "Sport" would be RTS, or maybe "racing" would be. Whoever invented swimming didn't invent racing, he just made another way for people to race. So he (or they) would be Blizzard. Speedo/TYR etc. would be the mouse companies, the keyboard companies, that allow gamers to compete at their "sport" (SC) like a better suit would.


Imo, you can't make an analogy to swimming with sc.

Blizzard made SC, SC is swimming = Speedo made speedo suit, speedo suit is swimming

Then it would be,
swimming = games/RTS/esports in general
Blizzard made SC = Speedo made speedo suit

People use the speedo suit because it's a high quality suit.
People play SC because it's a high quality game.

the thing here is, SC can ALSO be the sport itself as well as a product. you can compete in sc, but you cannot compete in speedo suit. you would compete in swimming.

tl;dr

can't really make an analogy to swimming and speedo

People use the logitech mini football mouse cause it's a good mouse/Bisu uses it. Voila, like a Speedo suit. You don't compete at mouse.
And how is a speedo suit swimming?
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
June 03 2010 07:55 GMT
#9
Blizzard is doing what any shortsighted company in their situation would do - they're seeking to make as much money as possible off of their products. Given SC's past, Blizzard can see that even if they make tremendously restrictive rules about who can use their games and how, there will still be an effort by the community to create a competitive community around SC2 - and this results in increased sales for Blizzard.

Its stupid because if they go too far they strangle the community and it dies out, killing off their sales at a certain point - but they're probably not looking ~5-10 years into the future. Activision, for one, has never been a company that was particularly good at making decisions for a long time period, they're much better at pumping out shitty games that make a profit to start with and die within a year - but hey, in that time they've pumped out another 3 shitty games, so they dont care.

The thing is, Blizzard doesn't have a chance in hell of actually enforcing this. No sane IP court on the planet will allow them to shut down an entire competitive community because Blizzard aren't making as much money as they could be in a perfect world.
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 08:01:56
June 03 2010 08:00 GMT
#10
mothafuckin innovative

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man i would have used Frank Pearce but I think I would have had to put NSFW tags on THAT big of a dick
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
June 03 2010 08:00 GMT
#11
RTS = Racing
CnC = Track and Field
AoE = Cycling
SCBW = Swimming
Logitech/Razer = Speedo
Mini football mouse = Speedo Fastskin

There are many ways to compete (Video games) in racing (RTS). Swimming (SCBW) is one of these ways. Speedo (Logitech) provides swimmers (progamers) with swim suits (mice) so that they can compete against each other.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5536 Posts
June 03 2010 08:16 GMT
#12
On June 03 2010 17:00 Butigroove wrote:
mothafuckin innovative

[image loading]

man i would have used Frank Pearce but I think I would have had to put NSFW tags on THAT big of a dick

what the christ
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 08:18:36
June 03 2010 08:18 GMT
#13
On June 03 2010 17:16 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 17:00 Butigroove wrote:
mothafuckin innovative

[image loading]

man i would have used Frank Pearce but I think I would have had to put NSFW tags on THAT big of a dick

what the christ

I think Speedo is in for some serious e-sports competition.

I mean can you think of anything more streamlined than that glorious bald head?
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