How `bout this riddle: I come from lands with small trees, hidden here, you see. Almost past the grave, is where you'll find five of me; I'm unforgiving. splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me, and a red herring. four more hints: it's no goodbye, dissect this reply, punctuation lies, and dont be fooled by the rhymes. guess now. what am I?
The riddle's my own work. This is one of those few challenges where you actually have to try. It is extremely difficult and downright confusing, but it is definitely do-able. Just about every line is a hint, though.
First one to post the correct answer (the riddle's answer is a one word answer), and at least four lines from the riddle that justify it with your own reasoning, gets the beta key. GLHFTL. I really hope someone gets it.
Somebody WILL get this key. Each day, if people even care by that point, I will give a point. Fuck the beta key, people, it's all about the satisfaction of solving a downright impossible riddle!
GonnaDoThis, that is impressive. You win your beta key. -Nuked wow
Well, this is sort of awkward. I guess the new winner will be the one who can analyze the riddle line by line the best, with the solution (haiku) in mind, and tell me how each line relates to a haiku. Granted, each line had its own original hint/intention, but if your analysis is very good, I will count it. Even though I'm going into biology next semester, there's something about poetry, riddles, and things like that which is just so fascinating. I would love to read your interpretations. Person with the best analysis wins the key after after 24 hours ( I will read everything in 24 hours), and some serious respect from me (if that means anything)
I would like to thank everybody for participating in this beta key contest, you've all made it very enjoyable and fun for me. Many of your guesses and analyses were very good, and it would be fun to do it again (though I am out of beta keys). The winner is actually the original person who got it (and was then nuked); he sent me analysis after being banned and it was pretty thorough. That, coupled with the fact he was the one to get the riddle, makes him deserving of it. Below are the original intentions of each line of the riddle: + Show Spoiler +
How `bout this riddle: There is nothing significant about this line besides its five syllables and the `. It is not an apostrophe, but actually a "grave" key (the punctuation to the left of the 1 on your keyboard). It is used in French (accent grave) and that is what the line later in the poem relates to. I come from lands with small trees, As some people have pointed out, this refers to Japan, famous for its pruned trees called Bonzai trees. This also refers to the origins of the subject matter of the riddle, as it comes from Japan as well. hidden here, you see. The first three lines are a haiku, and that is what this line is saying. Essentially, the riddle's solution is right in front of your eyes, though hidden by the lack of spaces between them and the punctuation that makes it seem like one large riddle. Almost past the grave, I liked the analysis about how this concerned haikus and how ancient they are. Originally, it was meant to throw people off, as it simply referred to the first line of the riddle (the `), but good job for seeing it past face value. is where you'll find five of me; As stated, past the ` key is where five haikus lie. I'm unforgiving. Haikus must be written in a 5-7-5, which is highly structured and precise. You cannot write haikus in any other way, so they are forgiving in this aspect. splash! bash, o' old pond. Removing the comma and the apostrophe after the o gives you basho old pond. It is the name of a very famous haiku, "Old Pond", by a long-gone haiku writer, Basho. in the pond, there is a frog, At face value, it is meant to confuse the reader. It also, though, refers to the famous haiku "Old Pond" and pays tribute to the poem itself through mentioning what it is about. example of me, This refers to the line starting with Splash! and the structure of the poem. The example is a timeless one, Basho's Old Pond, and the example is written in a haiku. and a red herring. The red herring, which is an idiomatic expression designed to throw off the reader, is, ironically, the line beginning with Splash! itself. If one knows the history behind haikus, it will not throw off the reader, but this sudden change of topic (from describing haikus to this) was designed to confuse. In this way, that line serves as both a clue and a misleading piece of evidence. four more hints: it's no goodbye, Hehe, this was kind of a stupid thing. I really liked Dikfore's analysis concerning it (and much of his analysis, in fact). What's the "opposite" of good-bye? HAIIIIII~~~[ku] dissect this reply, Success in analyzing this riddle would come from breaking down the riddle into its five separate components, as well as the dissection of the syllables. punctuation lies, The punctuation does lie. Haikus are meant to be individual, but the punctuation deceives you from even thinking there are haikus. Realizing that the punctuation is not integral to the poem's structure is a necessary realization. Dikfore's analysis is actually very good, here, as well. He probably knows, or googled, alot more about haikus than I actually do. Of course, not more than Trozz, though. (Who I had the liberty of playing on iCCup) and dont be fooled by the rhymes. Rhymes are not integral to haikus, and are meant to make the poem seem more like a riddle. guess now. what am I? This is just an ending line that is five syllables long.
2 things I want to say to all the fags there who keep whining about beta keys: do you really have no Genuine thing better to do than obsess over something you lack? Spend so much time trying to Magically obtain what is probably in front of your eyes at this very minute! Think about how long you Jabber on about a key when you could be prolonging your life exercising, studying for class, Xanadu wasn't built in a day, took a lot of hard work, and Kubilai Khan wasn't wasting his time trying Half-assedly to get a fucking beta key.
2nd thing I want to say is, not only are you wasting your time, but why waste space on tl? Just say Xiexie for all the great sc2 coverage you're getting and go find something better to do. Why not write a Dictation or a novel, just something for recreation's sake? Do something different, use more than just 6 brain cells ok? Would be really great if people all actually did something productive with their time.
Zealots should just be units, not the observers too! Obsessing over a game you love to play is great, 7 hours a day of watching though, basically just fantasizing about it instead of playing is excessive. Verily is starcraft a great game, but honestly, the actual game itself is going to be released soon; Gabbing away over a little key is retarded when the game comes out in a month and a half. It really Vexes me to no end that you noobs would whine and beg this much for a BETA key! Useful as Xenon in the atmosphere your whining is!
Well I'm not saying the game isn't good, just saying you don't NEED to have a key to enjoy what's Kicking here, obviously you're enjoying the streams and whatnot and thus think the game is good Enough to warrant wasting all your time begging for a key, why do you need more than those streams To enjoy the beta? My friend Ordrlychaos was able to do a bunch of theory crafting without a key.
Yeah the game's pretty gosu though, no lies. I'm a fucking great terran, got over 1800 elo with ease, While you guys are crying about getting a key rofl! Even my protoss is pretty great, raping platinums With no problems. My zerg's ok, but I haven't won a zvz yet. I don't even play that much, such an easy Park to play in. Can't play a lot because of carpal tunnel syndrome and school, and that helps me Jerk more enjoyment from the game. Not obsessing or crying over it at all, treating it as a fucking GAME, which is just what it is, and nothing more. Sure broodwar was a sport, but starcraft2, before Half a year of real playing, is not yet a sport guys. You think you can't become a gosu progamer Because you're a little behind everyone? The time it takes to learn the shortkeys and whatnot is under 4 day. Strategy takes a little more time, but just following the streams and threads should be Good enough really. Everything is changing so fast that you're not gonna be that behind, surpress your X-chromosome a bit you fags. Look at the latest patch, pretty big changes, and it's still only beta! 8 days after release and the game will probably feel completely different, beta experience won't help.
You'd really be better off just going and playing broodwar to practice your skills. There's still like 8000 people or even over 9000 playing on iccup still. Think about all the progamers still practicing There? The korean scene is still largely stuck in broodwar, now's your chance to play them with the 8000+ rated guys mostly on starcraft2.
Please stop being so pathetic about begging for a key. What would you even do with a key? Be a total Zombie and just play all the time? I doubt it. You'll probably go back to whining about something else, K thx for beta key, but the balance sucks! This game is unplayable! Zerg is boring! You'd probably Halt playing pretty quickly anyway, once the novelty of actually being in the beta wore out. Clearly How childish you guys are is the real problem. All of my tips would only work on someone more than 6 years old, someone mature and rational, and if you were either of those things, you wouldn't cry beta.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating giving up on the game. I think the game is great, it's really fun, But just saying you shouldn't be so fixated on getting a beta key. Be glad when you do get one, not a Zit waiting to get popped; just chill out! Do something you've never done before, or something epic the X-Men would do that you've always wanted in the meantime, and quit spamming for a key!
Donuts make police less crazy than these keys are making you guys! Do you want to be lazy and give 7 speeding tickets out a day to make up for the fact that you're a sick fat fuck? Quit whining and Crying so much about beta keys. Think I've ground the nail in deep enough yet? This is what you guys Validly sound like! Just going on and on until your fingers bleed and my eyes burn and babies cry 8 times a minute, and you've cried wolf so much that even the wolf doesn't feel like going near you. Maybe I'm exagerating a little bit, but it's closer to the truth than you might think. You = noob GG.
2 things I want to say to all the fags there who keep whining about beta keys: do you really have no Genuine thing better to do than obsess over something you lack? Spend so much time trying to Magically obtain what is probably in front of your eyes at this very minute! Think about how long you Jabber on about a key when you could be prolonging your life exercising, studying for class, Xanadu wasn't built in a day, took a lot of hard work, and Kubilai Khan wasn't wasting his time trying Half-assedly to get a fucking beta key.
2nd thing I want to say is, not only are you wasting your time, but why waste space on tl? Just say Xiexie for all the great sc2 coverage you're getting and go find something better to do. Why not write a Dictation or a novel, just something for recreation's sake? Do something different, use more than just 6 brain cells ok? Would be really great if people all actually did something productive with their time.
Zealots should just be units, not the observers too! Obsessing over a game you love to play is great, 7 hours a day of watching though, basically just fantasizing about it instead of playing is excessive. Verily is starcraft a great game, but honestly, the actual game itself is going to be released soon; Gabbing away over a little key is retarded when the game comes out in a month and a half. It really Vexes me to no end that you noobs would whine and beg this much for a BETA key! Useful as Xenon in the atmosphere your whining is!
Well I'm not saying the game isn't good, just saying you don't NEED to have a key to enjoy what's Kicking here, obviously you're enjoying the streams and whatnot and thus think the game is good Enough to warrant wasting all your time begging for a key, why do you need more than those streams To enjoy the beta? My friend Ordrlychaos was able to do a bunch of theory crafting without a key.
Yeah the game's pretty gosu though, no lies. I'm a fucking great terran, got over 1800 elo with ease, While you guys are crying about getting a key rofl! Even my protoss is pretty great, raping platinums With no problems. My zerg's ok, but I haven't won a zvz yet. I don't even play that much, such an easy Park to play in. Can't play a lot because of carpal tunnel syndrome and school, and that helps me Jerk more enjoyment from the game. Not obsessing or crying over it at all, treating it as a fucking GAME, which is just what it is, and nothing more. Sure broodwar was a sport, but starcraft2, before Half a year of real playing, is not yet a sport guys. You think you can't become a gosu progamer Because you're a little behind everyone? The time it takes to learn the shortkeys and whatnot is under 4 day. Strategy takes a little more time, but just following the streams and threads should be Good enough really. Everything is changing so fast that you're not gonna be that behind, surpress your X-chromosome a bit you fags. Look at the latest patch, pretty big changes, and it's still only beta! 8 days after release and the game will probably feel completely different, beta experience won't help.
You'd really be better off just going and playing broodwar to practice your skills. There's still like 8000 people or even over 9000 playing on iccup still. Think about all the progamers still practicing There? The korean scene is still largely stuck in broodwar, now's your chance to play them with the 8000+ rated guys mostly on starcraft2.
Please stop being so pathetic about begging for a key. What would you even do with a key? Be a total Zombie and just play all the time? I doubt it. You'll probably go back to whining about something else, K thx for beta key, but the balance sucks! This game is unplayable! Zerg is boring! You'd probably Halt playing pretty quickly anyway, once the novelty of actually being in the beta wore out. Clearly How childish you guys are is the real problem. All of my tips would only work on someone more than 6 years old, someone mature and rational, and if you were either of those things, you wouldn't cry beta.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating giving up on the game. I think the game is great, it's really fun, But just saying you shouldn't be so fixated on getting a beta key. Be glad when you do get one, not a Zit waiting to get popped; just chill out! Do something you've never done before, or something epic the X-Men would do that you've always wanted in the meantime, and quit spamming for a key!
Donuts make police less crazy than these keys are making you guys! Do you want to be lazy and give 7 speeding tickets out a day to make up for the fact that you're a sick fat fuck? Quit whining and Crying so much about beta keys. Think I've ground the nail in deep enough yet? This is what you guys Validly sound like! Just going on and on until your fingers bleed and my eyes burn and babies cry 8 times a minute, and you've cried wolf so much that even the wolf doesn't feel like going near you. Maybe I'm exagerating a little bit, but it's closer to the truth than you might think. You = noob GG.
hmmm...is it a lurker ? I come from lands with small trees, <-Char... which means zerg hidden here, you see. <- burrowed? splash! bash, o' old pond. <- splash dammage is where you'll find five of me <-lurkers are in groups usuallly i think...
On May 08 2010 10:58 OOl wrote: 2 things I want to say to all the fags there who keep whining about beta keys: do you really have no Genuine thing better to do than obsess over something you lack? Spend so much time trying to Magically obtain what is probably in front of your eyes at this very minute! Think about how long you Jabber on about a key when you could be prolonging your life exercising, studying for class, Xanadu wasn't built in a day, took a lot of hard work, and Kubilai Khan wasn't wasting his time trying Half-assedly to get a fucking beta key.
2nd thing I want to say is, not only are you wasting your time, but why waste space on tl? Just say Xiexie for all the great sc2 coverage you're getting and go find something better to do. Why not write a Dictation or a novel, just something for recreation's sake? Do something different, use more than just 6 brain cells ok? Would be really great if people all actually did something productive with their time.
Zealots should just be units, not the observers too! Obsessing over a game you love to play is great, 7 hours a day of watching though, basically just fantasizing about it instead of playing is excessive. Verily is starcraft a great game, but honestly, the actual game itself is going to be released soon; Gabbing away over a little key is retarded when the game comes out in a month and a half. It really Vexes me to no end that you noobs would whine and beg this much for a BETA key! Useful as Xenon in the atmosphere your whining is!
Well I'm not saying the game isn't good, just saying you don't NEED to have a key to enjoy what's Kicking here, obviously you're enjoying the streams and whatnot and thus think the game is good Enough to warrant wasting all your time begging for a key, why do you need more than those streams To enjoy the beta? My friend Ordrlychaos was able to do a bunch of theory crafting without a key.
Yeah the game's pretty gosu though, no lies. I'm a fucking great terran, got over 1800 elo with ease, While you guys are crying about getting a key rofl! Even my protoss is pretty great, raping platinums With no problems. My zerg's ok, but I haven't won a zvz yet. I don't even play that much, such an easy Park to play in. Can't play a lot because of carpal tunnel syndrome and school, and that helps me Jerk more enjoyment from the game. Not obsessing or crying over it at all, treating it as a fucking GAME, which is just what it is, and nothing more. Sure broodwar was a sport, but starcraft2, before Half a year of real playing, is not yet a sport guys. You think you can't become a gosu progamer Because you're a little behind everyone? The time it takes to learn the shortkeys and whatnot is under 4 day. Strategy takes a little more time, but just following the streams and threads should be Good enough really. Everything is changing so fast that you're not gonna be that behind, surpress your X-chromosome a bit you fags. Look at the latest patch, pretty big changes, and it's still only beta! 8 days after release and the game will probably feel completely different, beta experience won't help.
You'd really be better off just going and playing broodwar to practice your skills. There's still like 8000 people or even over 9000 playing on iccup still. Think about all the progamers still practicing There? The korean scene is still largely stuck in broodwar, now's your chance to play them with the 8000+ rated guys mostly on starcraft2.
Please stop being so pathetic about begging for a key. What would you even do with a key? Be a total Zombie and just play all the time? I doubt it. You'll probably go back to whining about something else, K thx for beta key, but the balance sucks! This game is unplayable! Zerg is boring! You'd probably Halt playing pretty quickly anyway, once the novelty of actually being in the beta wore out. Clearly How childish you guys are is the real problem. All of my tips would only work on someone more than 6 years old, someone mature and rational, and if you were either of those things, you wouldn't cry beta.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating giving up on the game. I think the game is great, it's really fun, But just saying you shouldn't be so fixated on getting a beta key. Be glad when you do get one, not a Zit waiting to get popped; just chill out! Do something you've never done before, or something epic the X-Men would do that you've always wanted in the meantime, and quit spamming for a key!
Donuts make police less crazy than these keys are making you guys! Do you want to be lazy and give 7 speeding tickets out a day to make up for the fact that you're a sick fat fuck? Quit whining and Crying so much about beta keys. Think I've ground the nail in deep enough yet? This is what you guys Validly sound like! Just going on and on until your fingers bleed and my eyes burn and babies cry 8 times a minute, and you've cried wolf so much that even the wolf doesn't feel like going near you. Maybe I'm exagerating a little bit, but it's closer to the truth than you might think. You = noob GG.
You know it looks like there's a key written on the left side of your message, but I already have a key, if I didn't I might be desperate enough to try it lol
On May 08 2010 10:58 OOl wrote: 2 things I want to say to all the fags there who keep whining about beta keys: do you really have no Genuine thing better to do than obsess over something you lack? Spend so much time trying to Magically obtain what is probably in front of your eyes at this very minute! Think about how long you Jabber on about a key when you could be prolonging your life exercising, studying for class, Xanadu wasn't built in a day, took a lot of hard work, and Kubilai Khan wasn't wasting his time trying Half-assedly to get a fucking beta key.
2nd thing I want to say is, not only are you wasting your time, but why waste space on tl? Just say Xiexie for all the great sc2 coverage you're getting and go find something better to do. Why not write a Dictation or a novel, just something for recreation's sake? Do something different, use more than just 6 brain cells ok? Would be really great if people all actually did something productive with their time.
Zealots should just be units, not the observers too! Obsessing over a game you love to play is great, 7 hours a day of watching though, basically just fantasizing about it instead of playing is excessive. Verily is starcraft a great game, but honestly, the actual game itself is going to be released soon; Gabbing away over a little key is retarded when the game comes out in a month and a half. It really Vexes me to no end that you noobs would whine and beg this much for a BETA key! Useful as Xenon in the atmosphere your whining is!
Well I'm not saying the game isn't good, just saying you don't NEED to have a key to enjoy what's Kicking here, obviously you're enjoying the streams and whatnot and thus think the game is good Enough to warrant wasting all your time begging for a key, why do you need more than those streams To enjoy the beta? My friend Ordrlychaos was able to do a bunch of theory crafting without a key.
Yeah the game's pretty gosu though, no lies. I'm a fucking great terran, got over 1800 elo with ease, While you guys are crying about getting a key rofl! Even my protoss is pretty great, raping platinums With no problems. My zerg's ok, but I haven't won a zvz yet. I don't even play that much, such an easy Park to play in. Can't play a lot because of carpal tunnel syndrome and school, and that helps me Jerk more enjoyment from the game. Not obsessing or crying over it at all, treating it as a fucking GAME, which is just what it is, and nothing more. Sure broodwar was a sport, but starcraft2, before Half a year of real playing, is not yet a sport guys. You think you can't become a gosu progamer Because you're a little behind everyone? The time it takes to learn the shortkeys and whatnot is under 4 day. Strategy takes a little more time, but just following the streams and threads should be Good enough really. Everything is changing so fast that you're not gonna be that behind, surpress your X-chromosome a bit you fags. Look at the latest patch, pretty big changes, and it's still only beta! 8 days after release and the game will probably feel completely different, beta experience won't help.
You'd really be better off just going and playing broodwar to practice your skills. There's still like 8000 people or even over 9000 playing on iccup still. Think about all the progamers still practicing There? The korean scene is still largely stuck in broodwar, now's your chance to play them with the 8000+ rated guys mostly on starcraft2.
Please stop being so pathetic about begging for a key. What would you even do with a key? Be a total Zombie and just play all the time? I doubt it. You'll probably go back to whining about something else, K thx for beta key, but the balance sucks! This game is unplayable! Zerg is boring! You'd probably Halt playing pretty quickly anyway, once the novelty of actually being in the beta wore out. Clearly How childish you guys are is the real problem. All of my tips would only work on someone more than 6 years old, someone mature and rational, and if you were either of those things, you wouldn't cry beta.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating giving up on the game. I think the game is great, it's really fun, But just saying you shouldn't be so fixated on getting a beta key. Be glad when you do get one, not a Zit waiting to get popped; just chill out! Do something you've never done before, or something epic the X-Men would do that you've always wanted in the meantime, and quit spamming for a key!
Donuts make police less crazy than these keys are making you guys! Do you want to be lazy and give 7 speeding tickets out a day to make up for the fact that you're a sick fat fuck? Quit whining and Crying so much about beta keys. Think I've ground the nail in deep enough yet? This is what you guys Validly sound like! Just going on and on until your fingers bleed and my eyes burn and babies cry 8 times a minute, and you've cried wolf so much that even the wolf doesn't feel like going near you. Maybe I'm exagerating a little bit, but it's closer to the truth than you might think. You = noob GG.
lol there were 2 keys on that freaking long post. somebody already got the first one and I got the 2nd one. gonna give it to my friend. finally I have an RL friend/practice partner.
On May 08 2010 11:12 iLoveKT wrote: lol there were 2 keys on that freaking long post. somebody already got the first one and I got the 2nd one. gonna give it to my friend. finally I have an RL friend/practice partner.
On May 08 2010 11:00 berrykerry789 wrote: hmmm...is it a lurker ? I come from lands with small trees, <-Char... which means zerg hidden here, you see. <- burrowed? splash! bash, o' old pond. <- splash dammage is where you'll find five of me <-lurkers are in groups usuallly i think...
I would turn it into the answer swarm instead of lurkers.
I come from lands with small trees, hidden here, you see. Almost past the grave, is where you'll find five of me;
I would think of this section of insects. First thing that comes to my mind from this is a grass and ants. Hidden within the grass there is an ant hill. As it says grave it makes me think its been destroyed, and then past it is 5 surviving ants. Ants tend to "swarm" which is move about in small groups.
splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me, and a red herring.
That section there brings your attention to a new piece of scenery. This case being a pond. Insects typically swarm around ponds a frog would jump to eat them, and the example of the red herring screams out the actual fish, fish tend to swarm.
So rather than say the answer is lurkers, Say the answer is swarm. I don't think I'm right, but it could be.
On May 08 2010 10:58 OOl wrote: 2 things I want to say to all the fags there who keep whining about beta keys: do you really have no Genuine thing better to do than obsess over something you lack? Spend so much time trying to Magically obtain what is probably in front of your eyes at this very minute! Think about how long you Jabber on about a key when you could be prolonging your life exercising, studying for class, Xanadu wasn't built in a day, took a lot of hard work, and Kubilai Khan wasn't wasting his time trying Half-assedly to get a fucking beta key.
2nd thing I want to say is, not only are you wasting your time, but why waste space on tl? Just say Xiexie for all the great sc2 coverage you're getting and go find something better to do. Why not write a Dictation or a novel, just something for recreation's sake? Do something different, use more than just 6 brain cells ok? Would be really great if people all actually did something productive with their time.
Zealots should just be units, not the observers too! Obsessing over a game you love to play is great, 7 hours a day of watching though, basically just fantasizing about it instead of playing is excessive. Verily is starcraft a great game, but honestly, the actual game itself is going to be released soon; Gabbing away over a little key is retarded when the game comes out in a month and a half. It really Vexes me to no end that you noobs would whine and beg this much for a BETA key! Useful as Xenon in the atmosphere your whining is!
Well I'm not saying the game isn't good, just saying you don't NEED to have a key to enjoy what's Kicking here, obviously you're enjoying the streams and whatnot and thus think the game is good Enough to warrant wasting all your time begging for a key, why do you need more than those streams To enjoy the beta? My friend Ordrlychaos was able to do a bunch of theory crafting without a key.
Yeah the game's pretty gosu though, no lies. I'm a fucking great terran, got over 1800 elo with ease, While you guys are crying about getting a key rofl! Even my protoss is pretty great, raping platinums With no problems. My zerg's ok, but I haven't won a zvz yet. I don't even play that much, such an easy Park to play in. Can't play a lot because of carpal tunnel syndrome and school, and that helps me Jerk more enjoyment from the game. Not obsessing or crying over it at all, treating it as a fucking GAME, which is just what it is, and nothing more. Sure broodwar was a sport, but starcraft2, before Half a year of real playing, is not yet a sport guys. You think you can't become a gosu progamer Because you're a little behind everyone? The time it takes to learn the shortkeys and whatnot is under 4 day. Strategy takes a little more time, but just following the streams and threads should be Good enough really. Everything is changing so fast that you're not gonna be that behind, surpress your X-chromosome a bit you fags. Look at the latest patch, pretty big changes, and it's still only beta! 8 days after release and the game will probably feel completely different, beta experience won't help.
You'd really be better off just going and playing broodwar to practice your skills. There's still like 8000 people or even over 9000 playing on iccup still. Think about all the progamers still practicing There? The korean scene is still largely stuck in broodwar, now's your chance to play them with the 8000+ rated guys mostly on starcraft2.
Please stop being so pathetic about begging for a key. What would you even do with a key? Be a total Zombie and just play all the time? I doubt it. You'll probably go back to whining about something else, K thx for beta key, but the balance sucks! This game is unplayable! Zerg is boring! You'd probably Halt playing pretty quickly anyway, once the novelty of actually being in the beta wore out. Clearly How childish you guys are is the real problem. All of my tips would only work on someone more than 6 years old, someone mature and rational, and if you were either of those things, you wouldn't cry beta.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating giving up on the game. I think the game is great, it's really fun, But just saying you shouldn't be so fixated on getting a beta key. Be glad when you do get one, not a Zit waiting to get popped; just chill out! Do something you've never done before, or something epic the X-Men would do that you've always wanted in the meantime, and quit spamming for a key!
Donuts make police less crazy than these keys are making you guys! Do you want to be lazy and give 7 speeding tickets out a day to make up for the fact that you're a sick fat fuck? Quit whining and Crying so much about beta keys. Think I've ground the nail in deep enough yet? This is what you guys Validly sound like! Just going on and on until your fingers bleed and my eyes burn and babies cry 8 times a minute, and you've cried wolf so much that even the wolf doesn't feel like going near you. Maybe I'm exagerating a little bit, but it's closer to the truth than you might think. You = noob GG.
On May 08 2010 10:58 OOl wrote: 2 things I want to say to all the fags there who keep whining about beta keys: do you really have no Genuine thing better to do than obsess over something you lack? Spend so much time trying to Magically obtain what is probably in front of your eyes at this very minute! Think about how long you Jabber on about a key when you could be prolonging your life exercising, studying for class, Xanadu wasn't built in a day, took a lot of hard work, and Kubilai Khan wasn't wasting his time trying Half-assedly to get a fucking beta key.
2nd thing I want to say is, not only are you wasting your time, but why waste space on tl? Just say Xiexie for all the great sc2 coverage you're getting and go find something better to do. Why not write a Dictation or a novel, just something for recreation's sake? Do something different, use more than just 6 brain cells ok? Would be really great if people all actually did something productive with their time.
Zealots should just be units, not the observers too! Obsessing over a game you love to play is great, 7 hours a day of watching though, basically just fantasizing about it instead of playing is excessive. Verily is starcraft a great game, but honestly, the actual game itself is going to be released soon; Gabbing away over a little key is retarded when the game comes out in a month and a half. It really Vexes me to no end that you noobs would whine and beg this much for a BETA key! Useful as Xenon in the atmosphere your whining is!
Well I'm not saying the game isn't good, just saying you don't NEED to have a key to enjoy what's Kicking here, obviously you're enjoying the streams and whatnot and thus think the game is good Enough to warrant wasting all your time begging for a key, why do you need more than those streams To enjoy the beta? My friend Ordrlychaos was able to do a bunch of theory crafting without a key.
Yeah the game's pretty gosu though, no lies. I'm a fucking great terran, got over 1800 elo with ease, While you guys are crying about getting a key rofl! Even my protoss is pretty great, raping platinums With no problems. My zerg's ok, but I haven't won a zvz yet. I don't even play that much, such an easy Park to play in. Can't play a lot because of carpal tunnel syndrome and school, and that helps me Jerk more enjoyment from the game. Not obsessing or crying over it at all, treating it as a fucking GAME, which is just what it is, and nothing more. Sure broodwar was a sport, but starcraft2, before Half a year of real playing, is not yet a sport guys. You think you can't become a gosu progamer Because you're a little behind everyone? The time it takes to learn the shortkeys and whatnot is under 4 day. Strategy takes a little more time, but just following the streams and threads should be Good enough really. Everything is changing so fast that you're not gonna be that behind, surpress your X-chromosome a bit you fags. Look at the latest patch, pretty big changes, and it's still only beta! 8 days after release and the game will probably feel completely different, beta experience won't help.
You'd really be better off just going and playing broodwar to practice your skills. There's still like 8000 people or even over 9000 playing on iccup still. Think about all the progamers still practicing There? The korean scene is still largely stuck in broodwar, now's your chance to play them with the 8000+ rated guys mostly on starcraft2.
Please stop being so pathetic about begging for a key. What would you even do with a key? Be a total Zombie and just play all the time? I doubt it. You'll probably go back to whining about something else, K thx for beta key, but the balance sucks! This game is unplayable! Zerg is boring! You'd probably Halt playing pretty quickly anyway, once the novelty of actually being in the beta wore out. Clearly How childish you guys are is the real problem. All of my tips would only work on someone more than 6 years old, someone mature and rational, and if you were either of those things, you wouldn't cry beta.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating giving up on the game. I think the game is great, it's really fun, But just saying you shouldn't be so fixated on getting a beta key. Be glad when you do get one, not a Zit waiting to get popped; just chill out! Do something you've never done before, or something epic the X-Men would do that you've always wanted in the meantime, and quit spamming for a key!
Donuts make police less crazy than these keys are making you guys! Do you want to be lazy and give 7 speeding tickets out a day to make up for the fact that you're a sick fat fuck? Quit whining and Crying so much about beta keys. Think I've ground the nail in deep enough yet? This is what you guys Validly sound like! Just going on and on until your fingers bleed and my eyes burn and babies cry 8 times a minute, and you've cried wolf so much that even the wolf doesn't feel like going near you. Maybe I'm exagerating a little bit, but it's closer to the truth than you might think. You = noob GG.
a turtle!?! is not stupid...he lives down low..with small trees, hidden here, you see. past the grave..turtle shell..5 of him ..4 legs 1 head...like frog wothout armor xD...and splash is in te wather xD
Almost past the grave, is where you'll find five of me; I'm unforgiving. splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me, and a red herring.
Five o's past the "grave" ie period.
and
our more hints: it's no goodbye, dissect this reply, punctuation lies, and dont be fooled by the rhymes. guess now. what am I?
4 o's past the word goodbye which it says its not.
On May 08 2010 11:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: as a note,
answer is the letter "o"
Almost past the grave, is where you'll find five of me; I'm unforgiving. splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me, and a red herring.
Five o's past the "grave" ie period.
and
our more hints: it's no goodbye, dissect this reply, punctuation lies, and dont be fooled by the rhymes. guess now. what am I?
4 o's past the word goodbye which it says its not.
On May 08 2010 11:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: as a note,
answer is the letter "o"
Almost past the grave, is where you'll find five of me; I'm unforgiving. splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me, and a red herring.
Five o's past the "grave" ie period.
and
our more hints: it's no goodbye, dissect this reply, punctuation lies, and dont be fooled by the rhymes. guess now. what am I?
4 o's past the word goodbye which it says its not.
Ahh, that's pretty good. You put a lot of effort in it, I see, but the problem with riddles is that if you are often on the wrong track, you have to abandon and give up. Ahh I hope you don't give up, I think you'd be able to get it if you cared.
On May 08 2010 11:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: as a note,
answer is the letter "o"
Almost past the grave, is where you'll find five of me; I'm unforgiving. splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me, and a red herring.
Five o's past the "grave" ie period.
and
our more hints: it's no goodbye, dissect this reply, punctuation lies, and dont be fooled by the rhymes. guess now. what am I?
4 o's past the word goodbye which it says its not.
but you forget the 'o' in the word 'now'
Technically not. The guess now segment follows a period, which should end his "reply". It should begin the statement on telling the answer
and a red herring. four more hints: it's no goodbye, dissect this reply,
four more hints: it's no goodbye, means it's not the last haiku?
WOW you got it right! You get a key, and nice first post, but I would be thoroughly amused if you could line-by-line analyze the poem and see what each line infers. I'll gladly post my own analysis in a bit.
On May 08 2010 10:58 OOl wrote: 2 things I want to say to all the fags there who keep whining about beta keys: do you really have no Genuine thing better to do than obsess over something you lack? Spend so much time trying to Magically obtain what is probably in front of your eyes at this very minute! Think about how long you Jabber on about a key when you could be prolonging your life exercising, studying for class, Xanadu wasn't built in a day, took a lot of hard work, and Kubilai Khan wasn't wasting his time trying Half-assedly to get a fucking beta key.
2nd thing I want to say is, not only are you wasting your time, but why waste space on tl? Just say Xiexie for all the great sc2 coverage you're getting and go find something better to do. Why not write a Dictation or a novel, just something for recreation's sake? Do something different, use more than just 6 brain cells ok? Would be really great if people all actually did something productive with their time.
Zealots should just be units, not the observers too! Obsessing over a game you love to play is great, 7 hours a day of watching though, basically just fantasizing about it instead of playing is excessive. Verily is starcraft a great game, but honestly, the actual game itself is going to be released soon; Gabbing away over a little key is retarded when the game comes out in a month and a half. It really Vexes me to no end that you noobs would whine and beg this much for a BETA key! Useful as Xenon in the atmosphere your whining is!
Well I'm not saying the game isn't good, just saying you don't NEED to have a key to enjoy what's Kicking here, obviously you're enjoying the streams and whatnot and thus think the game is good Enough to warrant wasting all your time begging for a key, why do you need more than those streams To enjoy the beta? My friend Ordrlychaos was able to do a bunch of theory crafting without a key.
Yeah the game's pretty gosu though, no lies. I'm a fucking great terran, got over 1800 elo with ease, While you guys are crying about getting a key rofl! Even my protoss is pretty great, raping platinums With no problems. My zerg's ok, but I haven't won a zvz yet. I don't even play that much, such an easy Park to play in. Can't play a lot because of carpal tunnel syndrome and school, and that helps me Jerk more enjoyment from the game. Not obsessing or crying over it at all, treating it as a fucking GAME, which is just what it is, and nothing more. Sure broodwar was a sport, but starcraft2, before Half a year of real playing, is not yet a sport guys. You think you can't become a gosu progamer Because you're a little behind everyone? The time it takes to learn the shortkeys and whatnot is under 4 day. Strategy takes a little more time, but just following the streams and threads should be Good enough really. Everything is changing so fast that you're not gonna be that behind, surpress your X-chromosome a bit you fags. Look at the latest patch, pretty big changes, and it's still only beta! 8 days after release and the game will probably feel completely different, beta experience won't help.
You'd really be better off just going and playing broodwar to practice your skills. There's still like 8000 people or even over 9000 playing on iccup still. Think about all the progamers still practicing There? The korean scene is still largely stuck in broodwar, now's your chance to play them with the 8000+ rated guys mostly on starcraft2.
Please stop being so pathetic about begging for a key. What would you even do with a key? Be a total Zombie and just play all the time? I doubt it. You'll probably go back to whining about something else, K thx for beta key, but the balance sucks! This game is unplayable! Zerg is boring! You'd probably Halt playing pretty quickly anyway, once the novelty of actually being in the beta wore out. Clearly How childish you guys are is the real problem. All of my tips would only work on someone more than 6 years old, someone mature and rational, and if you were either of those things, you wouldn't cry beta.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating giving up on the game. I think the game is great, it's really fun, But just saying you shouldn't be so fixated on getting a beta key. Be glad when you do get one, not a Zit waiting to get popped; just chill out! Do something you've never done before, or something epic the X-Men would do that you've always wanted in the meantime, and quit spamming for a key!
Donuts make police less crazy than these keys are making you guys! Do you want to be lazy and give 7 speeding tickets out a day to make up for the fact that you're a sick fat fuck? Quit whining and Crying so much about beta keys. Think I've ground the nail in deep enough yet? This is what you guys Validly sound like! Just going on and on until your fingers bleed and my eyes burn and babies cry 8 times a minute, and you've cried wolf so much that even the wolf doesn't feel like going near you. Maybe I'm exagerating a little bit, but it's closer to the truth than you might think. You = noob GG.
haha there's two keys hidden in there, both already taken but very nice job, that was awesome! :D
splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog,
Basho - old pond
example of me,
Old pond is an example of a haiku
and a red herring.
No idea here. Google'd red herring and got some kind of fallacy, so I would assume that the formatting being picked on while the main importance is the meaning is a red herring?
four more hints: it's no goodbye,
Nuked guy says that it means that it's not the last haiku. I'll go with that.
No idea here. Google'd red herring and got some kind of fallacy, so I would assume that the formatting being picked on while the main importance is the meaning is a red herring?
Some very nice work here as well. I feel so important ^^, though I get the feeling you googled portions of it haha. Not entirely correct, too, but still, nice work.
How `bout this riddle: I come from lands with small trees, hidden here, you see.
In this verse you talk about lands with small trees. I believe this is in reference to bonsai trees from Japan, where the haiku originates.
Almost past the grave, is where you'll find five of me; I'm unforgiving.
Haikus have been around for a very long time. There are five haiku within the riddle. The structural requirements of a haiku.
splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me,
Traditionally haikus were about nature and seasons. Bashō's "old pond" haiku. "Old pond... a frog leaps in, water's sound". Implying spring time.
and a red herring. four more hints: it's no goodbye, dissect this reply,
A red herring is an idiom in English used to refer to a trick or misleading information. Refers to "this is an example of me" as the frog and pond is not a literal example, but Bashō's haiku is the example. There are four more hints given. I'm having trouble with "it's no goodbye". I think that it has to do with how haiku don't really end. When you finish reading a haiku, it is not over. The haiku is open ended and can sometimes even have an unfinished feeling to it. The riddle must be dissected and interpreted as separate parts. Maybe I'm pushing my interpretation too much here, but this could also be in reference to how many haiku juxtapose topics. To fully understand the haiku you must be able to find and separate the juxtaposition.
punctuation lies, and dont be fooled by the rhymes. guess now. what am I?
This verse explains how the punctuation of a haiku is not as important as the syllable structure (5, 7, 5). Also haiku rarely have a rhyming pattern.
Still thinking about it, just wanted to get this out there.
I really enjoy haiku. Probably one of my favourite forms of poetry. Not sure why, but there is something beautiful and wonderful about them. Thanks for reminding me that I need to read more.
1st line: All haikus start with 5 syllables, like this.
2nd line: Haikus come from Japan, along with bonsai trees
3rd line: The first three lines form a haiku (5/7/5 syllables), thereby hidden
4th line: Many old Japanese graves have haikus are written on them
5th line: This poem contains five haikus
6th line: There is a strict syllabic format to haikus
7th -9th lines: This is a reference to the famous Basho haiku concerning a frog jumping in a pond (his name is here too…nice).
10th line: The red herring is a reference to the literary expression where an audience’s attention is diverted towards a different significance through description. In many haikus the literal “things” that are written about generally concern a greater significance. In the Basho example , the frog symbolized spring time.
11th line: Line divided into grammatical and imagistic parts across the colon. The first part is the literal four more hints, and the second is more emotionally-based.
12th line: Dissection is the process of breaking words into syllables. And because haikus are based on the strict control of syllables, this is an important tool.
13th line: English poets use punctuation to imply a break between grammatical and imagistic parts, whereas in kireji there is no direct equivalent.
14th line: Haikus don’t need to rhyme, and rhyming has no implication on the poetry.
15th line: I figure this is a five syllable way to end a riddle in order to keep with the haiku structure thus far.
Ok so here is my reasoning, I believe the answer is "COMMA" And here is my train of thought, first I related all my thoughts to this Haiku thing, then I realize that all of your riddle including the first and the last line are the riddle itself this "How 'bout" looked odd at first but then I realize its here to serve the purpose of the 5-7-5 build, English Haiku is written 3 lines at a time so I divided it, so in every 3 lines there is a clue.
First I thought each 3 lines should lead into a letter while the first line brings H (cause its high light) or A-for the missing letter, or "U,C" because of the hidden here..
The second line could bring me into F, because past the Grave stands for prior to G, namely F, and is where you'll Find Five oF them, un-F-orgiving, plus the G in the start that’s 5. Then I thought hmm maybe the answer is sc\wc COMMANDS, for each first letter in every 3rd line. that is H-hold(How), A-attack(Almost),S-stop(splash),dissect this reply- cut this line, and P-patrol(punctuation). But that’s just seems wrong But then I encountered this punctuation lies, and all the clues from my key (haiku) kireji etc.. And I thought that I can interpret things otherwise, so here is why I believe its comma: 'bout, komma in Greek means 'something cut off' in the hidden here-> and after that a comma, you see.. Almost past the grave, "grave" as a verb (inscribe), Means that u will find 5 comma in the next 3 lines.
splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me, small frog stands for small comma in the pond. Four more hints (commas): it's no goodbye, dissect this reply, punctuation lies,
On May 08 2010 21:44 lotp wrote: Ok so here is my reasoning, I believe the answer is "COMMA" And here is my train of thought, first I related all my thoughts to this Haiku thing, then I realize that all of your riddle including the first and the last line are the riddle itself this "How 'bout" looked odd at first but then I realize its here to serve the purpose of the 5-7-5 build, English Haiku is written 3 lines at a time so I divided it, so in every 3 lines there is a clue.
First I thought each 3 lines should lead into a letter while the first line brings H (cause its high light) or A-for the missing letter, or "U,C" because of the hidden here..
The second line could bring me into F, because past the Grave stands for prior to G, namely F, and is where you'll Find Five oF them, un-F-orgiving, plus the G in the start that’s 5. Then I thought hmm maybe the answer is sc\wc COMMANDS, for each first letter in every 3rd line. that is H-hold(How), A-attack(Almost),S-stop(splash),dissect this reply- cut this line, and P-patrol(punctuation). But that’s just seems wrong But then I encountered this punctuation lies, and all the clues from my key (haiku) kireji etc.. And I thought that I can interpret things otherwise, so here is why I believe its comma: 'bout, komma in Greek means 'something cut off' in the hidden here-> and after that a comma, you see.. Almost past the grave, "grave" as a verb (inscribe), Means that u will find 5 comma in the next 3 lines.
splash! bash, o' old pond. in the pond, there is a frog, example of me,
small frog stands for small comma in the pond. Four more hints (commas): it's no goodbye, dissect this reply, punctuation lies,
not only does he say that haiku is the answer in the page before, it says so right in the op it's red and bolded, not sure how you missed it
EPT
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someone just please give me a key... 
