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I love Starcraft 2. I'm obsessed with it. I go to bed thinking about it, then I dream about it, then I wake up and I'm still thinking about it. I've lost the desire to play any other video games since discovering Starcraft 1 and then later SC2
My problem though is that, I have a phobia of this game. I've never been good at RTS games. Ever. I'm the guy who plays the singleplayer portion of an RTS and as soon as you get to the first mission where the tutorial doesn't help you anymore, I quit without even a glance at the multiplayer. This is a handicap no doubt but slowly I've been overcoming it. When you boil starcraft down to it's core of micro/macro/harrass/unit counters it all makes sense and slots together well
It doesn't help my phobia, but what makes it worse is the competitivness and stress that comes from playing on the ladder. I both love it and hate it. I fantasise about playing in big tournaments and making money years and years in the future but the thought of playing one complete noob like me on the ladder terrifies me. The game stresses me out so much I can't bring myself to play it. After playing 2 custom games with a friend I had to stop because I was worn out
Is this common? How do I get over this? Should I just bite the bullet and play 20 games without stopping or try and play X amount every day?
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Man.... if it stresses you out, just don't do it. I don't know why you have to force yourself to do something that causes you pain.
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Well, my advice would be to just enjoy the game at earlier stages. I love playing the game, but I acknowledge that I will never be a progamer or an B+ and higher player.
When I started laddering, I was also terrified like you, but a change of attitude, (and the fact that I had absolutely NO practice partners) I started playing iccup for the sake of practice and fun.
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Yeah I have this "fear" as well. Honestly I think it's mostly an ego thing. You really have to just "let go" and not care about ladder points. After all, the entire point of the ladder point system is to match you up against similar level opponents so you can grow faster as a player. Just stop worrying about ladder points and win ratios and instead focus on improving and refining your game.
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On March 30 2010 21:29 lazz wrote:
Yeah I have this "fear" as well. Honestly I think it's mostly an ego thing. You really have to just "let go" and not care about ladder points. After all, the entire point of the ladder point system is to match you up against similar level opponents so you can grow faster as a player. Just stop worrying about ladder points and win ratios and instead focus on improving and refining your game.
It's easier said than done, but this post is right. I still remember being terrified when I first started playing on bnet.
Just keep playing, it goes away once you know what you're doing.
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After playing 2 custom games with a friend I had to stop because I was worn out
whats gonna happen to you when you have sex?
i mean jesus its a video game not a scorpion. if you like it, play it. if not, chill out and take a swim or something.
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Yeah you just gotta man up and play, not giving a fuck about losses and instead learning from it, that is the path to gosuness.
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I know how you feel. Just before I press the Find Game button I experience a small bit of hesitation. Noone wants to invest tremendous focus for 20 minutes just to lose.
However I feel the way BNet 2.0 is, is far better than in SC1. SC1 you had to create the game, wait for people to join, look at their iccup points, etc... much longer to get hesitant and just do something else.
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Kwark wrote this about iccup points and it might help you:
The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you. Tonight was expensive but this is why I got all the points. To buy series vs top level players. And I scored a few wins vs them so I'm proud of myself there.
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This really is just a fear of failure, and its perfectly natural. People, especially competitive people, don't like losing and don't like doing things they aren't good at. The best and most mentally strong players are not afraid to lose; they are confident in their abilities and enjoy the challenge and reward. They may hate losing but they never are afraid to try. Its not an easy skill to learn.
Like lazz said, you just have to get over it. Accept that there are people better than you and that often they will beat you. Otherwise it'll always be stressful and you won't get maximum enjoyment out of it, especially with AMM which is structured to produce close, competitive games.
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LOL i have this for sc2 only for some reason. i find myself watching replays, reading tl.net, watching vods more than i play.
i have no idea how i got C- level in brood war.
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I used to think this much about SCBW, tho I was never afraid.
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"Fear of a game only increases fear of the thing itself" - Albus Dumbledore
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On March 30 2010 23:07 Flaccid wrote:
"Fear of a game only increases fear of the thing itself" - Albus Dumbledore
I wake up every night in a cold swear of Hunter Killers jumping down from the roof and impaling me with needle spines.
Yes, I have always been afraid of the game. I win once, and I'm unwilling to play again because I don't want to lose. It's very easy to get frustrated, or just rest on your laurels. However, it is so much more worth it to just keep forcing yourself to play.
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Everything you said is very natural. I used to be the same way. One time I got hammered and started playing ICCUP games drunk, and I didn't care if I won or lost cause it was funny. After that, I was able to relax more whenever I laddered sober and although I am extremely competitive, I had more fun playing the game because it was less stressful. The only time I rage anymore is when I throw a game away when I have a lead.
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I share the same phobia. When I join a ladder game, my hands and body shake like crazy.
I've only played about 10 total in the last year.
Thinking about it, I seem to be worried that my record will be bad, like being 0-10 says something about me as a person.
It doesn't, we just have to get over it and have fun. Good luck!
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Bite the bullet. Once you start playing alot you dont get as worried about losing anymore
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Yeah bite the bullet. I had the same problem as you before, but then I started mass gaming for real and after awhile it went away. For me the first 2-3 games of a session still do this but after im good to go.
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I've decided a long time ago there is something very primal about people's reactions to SC. Some players thrive under competition - they are killers who love the chase and get better when things heat up. Others love the game, have deep strategic knowledge and so on, but wilt under pressure. Sure, with practice anyone can get a lot better, beat weaker players and get more comfortable - but when shit goes sideways they come undone.
I don't think you can ever train for that killer instinct. Some people just have it. It's in the eyes.
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I like the way kwark puts it. I'm going to use that.
Anyways I have this problem too. My problem is that after a few days of not playing I get jittery and so it is hard to get started playing again, so I sit watching streams all night instead. Once I have played a few games then it passes and even when I lose I can look at it with rationality without getting angry or nervous.
Another thing that has helped me is not to eat a lot of sugar or drink soda while I'm playing. That increases the jittery factor several fold. Also often times I can kind of forget I'm playing a real person on the new battle.net because there is so little interactivity, and that helps immensely.
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when im starting to get this fealing at B B+ level range , im making one smurf and win 18-20 game in a round , make me feal better 
that make me smile but at the same time im fealing a litle bad for the poor guy at d d+ who got totaly raped .
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I have the exact same problem but with SC1, i don't play melee at all cause i get maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad when i lose just a single game cause i don't do as well as i think i can. I guess it's like HotBid said, fear of losing.
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Same here, my solution was to play with friends, but if even that doesn't help you then you might wanna consider medication.
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On March 30 2010 21:45 SnowFantasy wrote:Kwark wrote this about iccup points and it might help you: Show nested quote +The way I see it ICC points are a currency for practice games. You pay points to practice vs better players and worse players pay their points to practice vs you. Tonight was expensive but this is why I got all the points. To buy series vs top level players. And I scored a few wins vs them so I'm proud of myself there.
Wow this is actually an excellent way of thinking about it. I've been coasting at my current rank, as dismal as it may be, just 'cuz I was afraid to lose a few in a row and have to dig myself out of a hole to get back up.
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Imo, one thing that makes people scared to progress in a game is the fact that they put so much time and effort into a game and as they do this, it gets harder. (almost anything else it gets easier) So it feels like you're going no where, especially with AMM.
And then you feel like a real loser, because the stigma of gaming. You gotta realize that all these good players are doing the exact same thing, playing for hours and hours every day. So don't feel bad if you lose to them.
PS- the sc2 ladder tries to keep you around 50% as well.
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